From what I've heard, he's really been turning heads among the defensive starters in OTAs/minicamps. Maybe we really have a thumper and overall legit MLB for the first time since Pierce...however breaking in a 2nd year MLB is difficult
What are people's expectations for Goodson this year?
We know he can play the run. He struggled a bit last preseason in coverage. He looked sluggish. But that may come from not knowing exactly what he was doing yet.
I think he'll stuff the run quite well. I'm not sure about his coverage abilities.
Second, throughout the spring Goodson stayed on the field in sub-packages. The Giants seem to have confidence in him. Let's hope he justifies their faith.
As hard as our schedule is and such, a great defense tends to flop less on a road games than an offense. just win, baby.
Second, throughout the spring Goodson stayed on the field in sub-packages. The Giants seem to have confidence in him. Let's hope he justifies their faith.
Klaatu, the fact that he was playing in nickel defense in OTA's is indeed a good development.
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First, the Giants didn't re-sign Kelvin Sheppard, nor did they draft a LB (although they did sign a UDFA).
Second, throughout the spring Goodson stayed on the field in sub-packages. The Giants seem to have confidence in him. Let's hope he justifies their faith.
Klaatu, the fact that he was playing in nickel defense in OTA's is indeed a good development.
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First, the Giants didn't re-sign Kelvin Sheppard, nor did they draft a LB (although they did sign a UDFA).
Second, throughout the spring Goodson stayed on the field in sub-packages. The Giants seem to have confidence in him. Let's hope he justifies their faith.
Klaatu, the fact that he was playing in nickel defense in OTA's is indeed a good development.
Honestly, Eric, I was surprised to read it.
The linebacker is anticipating an increased role this season, potentially as the starting middle linebacker.
“I definitely get that vibe and have that feeling,” Goodson said. “But that is what they brought me here for, to become an every-down force for them. I was able to come in and help out last year and I was able to make my presence felt a little bit last year. This year I’m looking forward to being an every-down force for the New York Giants.”
He will have to work his way into that role. It will have to be won in the spring and summer on the field...
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Could be the missing piece that elevates this defense to best in the NFL
If BJ Goodson, D. Thompson, A. Adams, R. Okwara and M. Hunter really elevate their games this defense is going to be sick good.
As hard as our schedule is and such, a great defense tends to flop less on a road games than an offense. just win, baby.
I think the D Is already sick good. They won 11 games w an offense that was a mess for the most part. If Vernon and JPP can get some actual rest and stay healthy this team has 4-6 All Pro level players. No the ProBowl. All Pro. The OL being able to run block and even two of those guys mentioned really make a jump opposing teams are going to be getting their asses kicked.
People love offense these days but I'm a kid of the 70s and 80s. I want to see See teams shit their pants like they did when LT and Carson et al were running the D
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Could be the missing piece that elevates this defense to best in the NFL
If BJ Goodson, D. Thompson, A. Adams, R. Okwara and M. Hunter really elevate their games this defense is going to be sick good.
As hard as our schedule is and such, a great defense tends to flop less on a road games than an offense. just win, baby.
I think the D Is already sick good. They won 11 games w an offense that was a mess for the most part. If Vernon and JPP can get some actual rest and stay healthy this team has 4-6 All Pro level players. No the ProBowl. All Pro. The OL being able to run block and even two of those guys mentioned really make a jump opposing teams are going to be getting their asses kicked.
People love offense these days but I'm a kid of the 70s and 80s. I want to see See teams shit their pants like they did when LT and Carson et al were running the D
Only injuries could derail this defense so I pray for health.
Goodson being a decent 3 down LBer would elevate this defense.
The field becomes very small....if Goodson has decent range.
Will make it very difficult for the Qbs in our division.
Goodson being a decent 3 down LBer would elevate this defense.
The field becomes very small....if Goodson has decent range.
Will make it very difficult for the Qbs in our division.
Do you know what the answer is, and/or what the league average is?
I'm not saying you're wrong, but without that supporting data, it's an unfair condemnation.
I think it would be fairer to note that not a single defensive player taken in the first or second round has been a failure and that when you compare that to league norms it's astounding. I'd note too that we had the sagacity to trade up to get Collins in round two and what a brilliant move that was.
And if it's just defense you want to talk about, I'd note the uncanny and the improbability of signing four free agents last year and having everyone of them exceed expectations.... Robinson, Vernon, Snacks and JackRabbit.
As Brilliant as Unlikely.
He has since shown he is capable of leading the defense... already barking orders to established vets and seems like a pro's pro.
Everything about him and what he's shown is indicative of a player that has a lot of promise and a long-term starter in the middle.
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How many defensive starters has this team produced via the draft, after the second round in the last 10 years?
Do you know what the answer is, and/or what the league average is?
I'm not saying you're wrong, but without that supporting data, it's an unfair condemnation.
I think it would be fairer to note that not a single defensive player taken in the first or second round has been a failure and that when you compare that to league norms it's astounding. I'd note too that we had the sagacity to trade up to get Collins in round two and what a brilliant move that was.
And if it's just defense you want to talk about, I'd note the uncanny and the improbability of signing four free agents last year and having everyone of them exceed expectations.... Robinson, Vernon, Snacks and JackRabbit.
As Brilliant as Unlikely.
Just stay healthy this year, please, and we'll make a SB run.
On paper, this is one of the best Giants' rosters I've ever seen in my 30 years of watching Giants football.
Just need the roster to have relative good health, and they should make a run, I think.
I think this team has the talent to win at least 12 games this season if they can keep the players on the field.
On paper, this is one of the best Giants' rosters I've ever seen in my 30 years of watching Giants football.
Just need the roster to have relative good health, and they should make a run, I think.
I think this team has the talent to win at least 12 games this season if they can keep the players on the field.
I like that MaCadoo runs a fairly easy camp compared to TC.
And the result: DRC is complaining about the kid correcting him too forcefully. Media guys asked if Goodson was right about the correction, and DRC said yes but it was the manner of the correction that annoyed him.
To me, that says a lot about this kid. He's adjusted to this defense and barking orders (and being procedurally correct in doing so), like Thompson was said to be doing last year. If both those guys come on strong, our D will have added two more pieces without Reese having to raise a finger this offseason. And those would be two pieces who may become captains of their corps some day.
I'm very excited to see how Goodson does. He was one of my picks for guys to watch in a thread a few weeks back. September can't come soon enough.
And the result: DRC is complaining about the kid correcting him too forcefully. Media guys asked if Goodson was right about the correction, and DRC said yes but it was the manner of the correction that annoyed him.
To me, that says a lot about this kid. He's adjusted to this defense and barking orders (and being procedurally correct in doing so), like Thompson was said to be doing last year. If both those guys come on strong, our D will have added two more pieces without Reese having to raise a finger this offseason. And those would be two pieces who may become captains of their corps some day.
I'm very excited to see how Goodson does. He was one of my picks for guys to watch in a thread a few weeks back. September can't come soon enough.
I'll say it one last time but I think Apple, Shepard, D. Thompson, BJ Goodson, P. Perkins, J. Adams, R. Okwara, A. Adams, M. Hunter and possibly D. Powe form one of the best off-season drafts and acquisiton periods in Giants history and it will carry us this year.
And the result: DRC is complaining about the kid correcting him too forcefully. Media guys asked if Goodson was right about the correction, and DRC said yes but it was the manner of the correction that annoyed him.
To me, that says a lot about this kid. He's adjusted to this defense and barking orders (and being procedurally correct in doing so), like Thompson was said to be doing last year. If both those guys come on strong, our D will have added two more pieces without Reese having to raise a finger this offseason. And those would be two pieces who may become captains of their corps some day.
I'm very excited to see how Goodson does. He was one of my picks for guys to watch in a thread a few weeks back. September can't come soon enough.
I'll say it one last time but I think Apple, Shepard, D. Thompson, BJ Goodson, P. Perkins, J. Adams, R. Okwara, A. Adams, M. Hunter and possibly D. Powe form one of the best off-season drafts and acquisiton periods in Giants history and it will carry us this year.
And the result: DRC is complaining about the kid correcting him too forcefully. Media guys asked if Goodson was right about the correction, and DRC said yes but it was the manner of the correction that annoyed him.
To me, that says a lot about this kid. He's adjusted to this defense and barking orders (and being procedurally correct in doing so), like Thompson was said to be doing last year. If both those guys come on strong, our D will have added two more pieces without Reese having to raise a finger this offseason. And those would be two pieces who may become captains of their corps some day.
I'm very excited to see how Goodson does. He was one of my picks for guys to watch in a thread a few weeks back. September can't come soon enough.
I'll say it one last time but I think Apple, Shepard, D. Thompson, BJ Goodson, P. Perkins, J. Adams, R. Okwara, A. Adams, M. Hunter and possibly D. Powe form one of the best off-season drafts and acquisiton periods in Giants history and it will carry us this year.
And the result: DRC is complaining about the kid correcting him too forcefully. Media guys asked if Goodson was right about the correction, and DRC said yes but it was the manner of the correction that annoyed him.
To me, that says a lot about this kid. He's adjusted to this defense and barking orders (and being procedurally correct in doing so), like Thompson was said to be doing last year. If both those guys come on strong, our D will have added two more pieces without Reese having to raise a finger this offseason. And those would be two pieces who may become captains of their corps some day.
I'm very excited to see how Goodson does. He was one of my picks for guys to watch in a thread a few weeks back. September can't come soon enough.
I have to tell you, if in fact BJ Goodson, D. Thompson, M. Thompson (my surprise slot guy...), M. Hunter (solid corner?), D. Tomlinson (as the season progresses he'll learn), we have some solid new, talented bodies to boost this defense. I look forward to hearing about these kids and seeing the play 8.11.17
And the result: DRC is complaining about the kid correcting him too forcefully. Media guys asked if Goodson was right about the correction, and DRC said yes but it was the manner of the correction that annoyed him.
To me, that says a lot about this kid. He's adjusted to this defense and barking orders (and being procedurally correct in doing so), like Thompson was said to be doing last year. If both those guys come on strong, our D will have added two more pieces without Reese having to raise a finger this offseason. And those would be two pieces who may become captains of their corps some day.
I'm very excited to see how Goodson does. He was one of my picks for guys to watch in a thread a few weeks back. September can't come soon enough.
I have to tell you, if in fact BJ Goodson, D. Thompson, M. Thompson (my surprise slot guy...), M. Hunter (solid corner?), D. Tomlinson (as the season progresses he'll learn), we have some solid new, talented bodies to boost this defense. I look forward to hearing about these kids and seeing the play 8.11.17
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How many defensive starters has this team produced via the draft, after the second round in the last 10 years?
Do you know what the answer is, and/or what the league average is?
I'm not saying you're wrong, but without that supporting data, it's an unfair condemnation.
I't closer to none than one, for the Giants.....that's why I said cross your fingers.....we are long over due....and if it turns out to be a LB, so much the better.....
plays at Clemson . He reminded me a bit like Harry Carson
Last year before training camp I picked Landon Collins
to go to the pro-bowl he did one better by being selected
as an All Pro . Nostradamus I am not but I think he will
be the most improved player . I have no idea if he can
cover but I think he is going to be real solid .
I do hope Darian Thompson gets on the field and lives up to
the billing .
If you include B.J. Goodson and Darian Thompson, then the answer is six, and four of them are LBs.
Michael Johnson, S, 2007.
Jon Goff, LB, 2008.
Jacquian Williams, LB, 2011.
Devon Kennard, LB, 2014.
If you want to be charitable, you could include CB Jayron Hosley and DT Markus Kuhn into that mix.
If you want to be even more charitable, you can include Zak DeOssie as well, although his starts come as a LS not a LB.
However, the Giants have not been shy about signing free agents to start at these positions, albeit with varying degrees of success.
plays at Clemson . He reminded me a bit like Harry Carson
Last year before training camp I picked Landon Collins
to go to the pro-bowl he did one better by being selected
as an All Pro . Nostradamus I am not but I think he will
be the most improved player . I have no idea if he can
cover but I think he is going to be real solid .
I do hope Darian Thompson gets on the field and lives up to
the billing .