Looking for some keeper advice for my last open spot in a dynasty league..
10 team PPR. 8 keepers per year. loose one higher draft position for every player kept. (draft mr x in round three last year, loose your 2nd rd pick if you keep him this year.. also and waiver pickup costs you an 18th round if you keep him. trade for a player and you are penalized at the draft level he was originally drafted at minus 1 year)
I have built a dominant team as you will see... there were only about 2 other players who understood the strategy of a dynasty league when it started.... they were drafting for this year and not looking at rookies and 1st and 2nd year players. most if not all have caught on and its getting a lot better.
I tanked the first year (this is our fourth season) but won first place the last two years..
here is my current roster (can keep 8) and what my cost is to keep
Jordy - 2nd rd
TY Hilton - 1st
Russ Wilson - 17th
Luck - 14th
Alshon - 5th
Lat Murray - 16th
OBJ - 8th
Charles simms - 18th
Davante Parker - 7th
Duke Johnson - 18th
David Johnson - 9th
Corey Coleman - 18th
Josh Doctson - 18th
So you see there are some good players I own at a low cost... that is from playing the waiver and drafting rookies well when the others were not... I have had david Johnson since he was a backup.. I drafted OJB injured in rookie year, someone had to drop Corey Coleman last year, etc..
so my keepers so far:
Jordy, TY , Luck, Alshon, Lat Murray, OJB, David Johnson
which leaves me one slot.... really thinking Doctson at the cheap price and upside... if he works out I can try to move a WR for an RB..
also, I would focus most of my draft on RB
what do you think??
Heading out to do some Striper fishing in a few (they are killing them off Cape Cod right now!!)... i'll check back later...
thanks all! (only posting this because of the "dead" time of year for the NFL)
Agreed that you should prioritize your RB in the draft. One thing I noticed is, you guys don't play a tight end? Defense?
You have really strong receivers already, so if I were you I'd go with upside on your remaining keeper. And it's not that Doctson doesn't have upside, but I wonder where he fits in the pecking order with Terrell Pryor, Jamison Crowder, and Jordan Reed in that passing offense.
Then there's Corey Coleman. They bring in Kenny Britt and draft David Njoku. But Coleman is one of the most athletically gifted players in the NFL. That is not hyperbole, either. He is definitely in the top 1% of physical athletic gifts of even NFL players. He could be more gifted an athlete as OBJ. Now, notice I said athlete, and not receiver. But my point is, if you want long-term upside, I think Coleman, who has #1 receiver written ALL over him, that's your keeper. I get that the QB situation is not great in Cleveland with Osweiler, Deshone Kizer, and Cody Kessler, and the Redskins have QB stability at least for this year, but this is not just about 2017 for you. And Kizer could end up being a franchise QB, as well. In any case, Coleman will have more targets than Doctson this year, and has a much bigger upside. To me, Coleman could easily outproduce Doctson both in the near and long-term. Best of luck!
And keep 2 of Coleman, Doctson, and Parker.
But this is just a keeper league not a dynasty league to me but I guess with 8 keepers is kind of is like a dynasty league.
Also, when do you pick and how many first round picks do you expect. The reason I am asking is could you keep all 3 players that I mentioned could you still get Hilton with your first pick or better? Doesn't seem like wasting your first pick on Hilton will benefit you to waste a keeper spot on him if you could just redraft him.
How many owners are keeping or do you expect to keep a first round player and what were the players drafted in the first round?
Also, what happens if you drafted a player in the first and you want to keep him next year? You might have explained that already but I missed it.
With you having unbelievable talent at WR I don't see anything wrong with not keeping Hilton and then either redrafting him or going after some of these rookie RBs like Fournette, Mixon, McCaffery, Cook, etc. Now, if a player is drafted in the first and you cannot keep him the following year then that is different.
Russell Wilson for a 17th is a no brainer for me. THAT is a value pick.
yeah it is a keeper but 8 keepers leans into a dynasty.
I pick 10th.. if I dump TY I may get a shot at a good rookie RB but i'll be sacrificing TY who is a PPR machine... most people will have keepers that will cost a first... I would guess that if I dump TY I would have the 3rd or 4th overall pick at the rookies and whoever everyone else dumped. that's a thought...
dumping Lat Murray I don't disagree but im real thin at RB..
as far as defence, TE, kickers, i'll address that at draft time... I have no-one worth keeping there.
Coleman over Doctson is what I was looking for... I think both will ultimately be fantasy relevant.... the thought of keeping both and dumping Murray is intriguing me.. that may be the move. ultimately moving an older WR for an RB (Jordy?)...
thanks for the input.... I truly do appreciate it. I would also not post this if there was real football going on right now.
BTW... took six guys out on a charter and limited out on striped bass in 3 hours.... great day!
Cheers!! Go Giants!
Is his value good? Yeah. Is his long term value good? Hell no. They drafted Cook for a reason. Plus, this year, their OL is still pretty poor. I am not a Sammy Sleeves fan even though he played well last year.
Hilton is tough but like you said you could chance getting him back and if n9t the consolation prize is probably a rookie RBs.
You still didn't answer what happens with 1st round picks the following year. Are they not able to be kept or do first and second round picks cost a first round pick the next year?
sorry about that.... 1st rounds are goofy in this format.. you can keep for as long as you like but you loose your first the next year.. which, you may already be loosing by keeping the previous years 2nd.. so, ultimately, if you draft real well, you keep loosing your top picks which allows the lower end teams to feast on the rookies...
great points about Murray... its just that he has always produced in the past (yes on a better team) but they didn't like him either... my thought was that with him for the short term (and at a cost of 16th rd pick) he will be somewhat viable s my 2 or 3 or flex...
I may just have to drop Hilton, hope someone ahead of me who needs a WR grabs him and I can grab a top rookie RB... like I said I think after the keepers are set I would prob end up 3rd or fourth overall. if one of them grabs TY I could have the 2nd pick.
thanks for the insight...
and whichever of Coleman/Doctson you prefer
I'd be looking to deal Wilson + one of those last 2 WRs (and Murray if the other team wants him) for a RB
buys you a top 10 RB then I'd do that.