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blueblood'11 : 7/8/2017 7:27 am
When will Girardi stop trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. When will he say this isn't working and try something a little bit different. I'm talking mostly about his use or marriage if you will to his bullpen implementation.

The back end has had it's troubles as well and I can understand keeping Betances and Chapman in place however, why not take some of the pressure off of Betances and maybe try a Green or Warren in that spot. They have pitched well in some tough spots.

As for Clippard I think Joe has lost his senses. How do you keep going to this guy only to have him sabotage your chance of winning a game. Why not a Warren or Green or a Cessa in that spot last night. All three have been pitching well.

As for Clppard, his comments after the game were incomprehensible. Says he's right where he needs to be. The front office has his back. He feels good on the mound. Gosh, what would it look like if he was feeling bad.
I've become more convinced the league has figured out  
mfsd : 7/8/2017 7:48 am : link
Clippard is tipping his pitches somehow. These guys can now study video of every opposing pitcher or hitter in slow mo, high def over and over again. Doesn't seem to be anything physically wrong with him, but for 6 weeks guys have been teeing off like they know what pitch is coming

Regardless, I agree it's time to give Warren and Green a shot in more high leverage situations.

That said, the pitchforks are out for Girardi all of a sudden, while he's looked like a smart bullpen manager in the past. IMHO it largely comes down to talent - Chapman and Betances are having shaky seasons, and our B bullpen guys have often been pretty lousy. It's hard for a manager to outsmart players who just aren't performing.

Not to absolve Girardi of blame, it's been maddening the way he's stuck with Clippard. But there's more to the story than Girardi doing a bad job
RE: I've become more convinced the league has figured out  
Percy : 7/8/2017 8:42 am : link
In comment 13522907 mfsd said:
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Clippard is tipping his pitches somehow. These guys can now study video of every opposing pitcher or hitter in slow mo, high def over and over again. Doesn't seem to be anything physically wrong with him, but for 6 weeks guys have been teeing off like they know what pitch is coming

Regardless, I agree it's time to give Warren and Green a shot in more high leverage situations.

That said, the pitchforks are out for Girardi all of a sudden, while he's looked like a smart bullpen manager in the past. IMHO it largely comes down to talent - Chapman and Betances are having shaky seasons, and our B bullpen guys have often been pretty lousy. It's hard for a manager to outsmart players who just aren't performing.

Not to absolve Girardi of blame, it's been maddening the way he's stuck with Clippard. But there's more to the story than Girardi doing a bad job

Not sure it's so "all of a sudden." Clip has demonstrated he can't pitch at this level (at least not at present). Why put him into a winnable game?
Not sure it matters if you're tipping pitches  
Neckbone1333 : 7/8/2017 9:35 am : link
when they are all shitty.

Well the bullpen is in doing him any favors, Joe is still brutal.

That move of Headley to 2 last night was comical and negligent.
You guys have short memories  
mfsd : 7/8/2017 9:47 am : link
Clippards been a consistently good reliever in his career, was good for the Yanks last year and was off to a good start this year. For whatever reason he's completely lost it, and the Yanks need to stop using him, but he's proven he can pitch before
You have to have short memories  
Neckbone1333 : 7/8/2017 10:08 am : link
if you want to keep winning and moving forward.

He has nothing left and the confidence of a newborn calf. You sure as hell don't put him in a 2 run game.
RE: You have to have short memories  
mfsd : 7/8/2017 10:55 am : link
In comment 13522965 Neckbone1333 said:
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if you want to keep winning and moving forward.

He has nothing left and the confidence of a newborn calf. You sure as hell don't put him in a 2 run game.


Nobody's arguing that point
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