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NFT: Knicks Chat - Melo to Houston Very Likely

adamg : 7/8/2017 3:16 pm
Per my twitter beat writer crush Big Baby.

Also said Lee has heard he'll be moved if Hardaway goes through unless Melo deal happens. Thoughts on keeping Lee if Melo is flipped?
Yes to Melo to HOU - ( New Window )
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twitter is blowing up  
larryflower37 : 7/8/2017 3:21 pm : link
but no specifics or teams involved...
A whole lot of smoke but no flames.
RE: twitter is blowing up  
adamg : 7/8/2017 3:22 pm : link
In comment 13523162 larryflower37 said:
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but no specifics or teams involved...
A whole lot of smoke but no flames.


The guy I linked isn't a clickable guy. He's as legit as I've seen.
I hope they trade Lee.  
bceagle05 : 7/8/2017 3:28 pm : link
Hardaway and Dotson can play the #2, and Baker and Frank can play either guard spot. Good time to move Lee.
I've been out of the loop  
mattnyg05 : 7/8/2017 3:52 pm : link
but what has d'antoni said about the melo possibility?
I hope there are some interesting assets coming back  
Deej : 7/8/2017 3:57 pm : link
but LAC really cleaned HOU out. Which was a mistake by HOU I think, since Paul was going there anyway.
Also  
Deej : 7/8/2017 3:58 pm : link
not looking forward to moving Melo and Lee just to give Simmons a stupid contract.
For simplicities  
Jon in NYC : 7/8/2017 4:22 pm : link
sake can we keep this all in the active thread?
I think this is more relevant.  
robbieballs2003 : 7/8/2017 4:26 pm : link
The other thread was about THJ. This is about the Melo trade. Just because a few people are posting on the other thread doesn't mean it is as noticeable as this thread. This is new news so I am glad there is a new thread.
Idk,  
Jon in NYC : 7/8/2017 4:27 pm : link
the two are fairly related.

Also, *simplicity's
Harden extension  
ADeP7 : 7/8/2017 4:40 pm : link
4 years 228 million
I prefer a separate thread also.  
larryflower37 : 7/8/2017 4:48 pm : link
That harden deal is insane.
Who  
Jon in NYC : 7/8/2017 4:52 pm : link
says no?
Link - ( New Window )
RE: Who  
Meats and Cheeses : 7/8/2017 4:55 pm : link
In comment 13523245 Jon in NYC said:
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says no? Link - ( New Window )


Why the hell would Portland do that deal? Are they getting to first rounders?
Portland  
RAIN : 7/8/2017 4:56 pm : link
whose trying to shed salary.
Portland  
Jon in NYC : 7/8/2017 4:58 pm : link
basically breaks even salary wise, adds a young piece and gets the 2nd best player in the trade. Im sure the Rockets would add a pick and money as well.
this deal is being mentioned  
RAIN : 7/8/2017 5:17 pm : link
on the Summer league broadcast, with Chicago and Boston as being mentioned as the third team.

RE: this deal is being mentioned  
Jon in NYC : 7/8/2017 5:19 pm : link
In comment 13523259 RAIN said:
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on the Summer league broadcast, with Chicago and Boston as being mentioned as the third team.


Interesting.

I can't see either team having any interest in Ryan Anderson.
Noah is a mess.  
larryflower37 : 7/8/2017 5:21 pm : link
He is broken down and might not play real minutes again.
Its wishful thinking for anyone to take that contract.
That would be a deal breaker
RE: Noah is a mess.  
Jay on the Island : 7/8/2017 5:39 pm : link
In comment 13523263 larryflower37 said:
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He is broken down and might not play real minutes again.
Its wishful thinking for anyone to take that contract.
That would be a deal breaker

If he retires does his contract remain against the cap?
For better or worse  
mfsd : 7/8/2017 5:44 pm : link
Mills seems to have been given free reign to make deals, rather than wait until a new GM is hired
RE: RE: Noah is a mess.  
larryflower37 : 7/8/2017 5:52 pm : link
In comment 13523279 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13523263 larryflower37 said:


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He is broken down and might not play real minutes again.
Its wishful thinking for anyone to take that contract.
That would be a deal breaker


If he retires does his contract remain against the cap?


The Knicks would need to buy him out or they could get a medical but I don't think he would fail a physical.
Basically that deal will haunt this team for the next 4 years.
I like the Hardaway signing IF  
Sean : 7/8/2017 5:53 pm : link
Melo & Lee are traded and Rondo is NOT signed. Go with youth.
RE: RE: RE: Noah is a mess.  
yatqb : 7/8/2017 5:56 pm : link
In comment 13523298 larryflower37 said:
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In comment 13523279 Jay on the Island said:


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In comment 13523263 larryflower37 said:


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He is broken down and might not play real minutes again.
Its wishful thinking for anyone to take that contract.
That would be a deal breaker


If he retires does his contract remain against the cap?



The Knicks would need to buy him out or they could get a medical but I don't think he would fail a physical.
Basically that deal will haunt this team for the next 4 years.


Thankfully, larry, it will only haunt them for 3 more years. But I'm guessing he'll be bought out after this season if they can't unload him (fat chance of that, of course).
Dolan had said  
Dave on the UWS : 7/8/2017 6:00 pm : link
Mills would guide the team through free agency. If he does a good job here then he should be considered for the job on a permanent basis. Forming a young core to grow together is Absolutely the way to go.
look i dont love the THJR...  
Italianju : 7/8/2017 6:06 pm : link
signing. Its an overpay, but he is 25 and has improved consistently. Maybe we finally get lucky and overpay a young up and comer who actually continues to get better. I liked THJR when he was here, i mean i was thrilled to get a first for him, but he has improved. I just hope he can be more then just a scorer.

Really hope this Melo trade gets done soon. I know we wont get much back, but at least we hopefully get Qi and something else. It just increases our assets. Let a young team develop, get another top pick, and hope that KP becomes the star we thing we can be.

And i really hope we move Lee, he does nothing for this team. Lets roll with THJR/Dotson. Get another asset for Lee and let the kids play. Noah can still be the vet leader.
the rockets just signed Qi recently...  
Italianju : 7/8/2017 6:12 pm : link
right? Can they still include him in a deal? he is pretty much the only interesting asset they have.
RE: Harden extension  
Canton : 7/8/2017 6:16 pm : link
In comment 13523234 ADeP7 said:
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4 years 228 million


4 times the player of THjr
Woj said  
Phil in LA : 7/8/2017 6:35 pm : link
Rockets in hot pursuit of Melo.
Hypothetical Trade  
uncledave : 7/8/2017 7:17 pm : link
for the bockers...
Good for both sides IMO - ( New Window )
Guessing Knicks would have to bring in  
Rflairr : 7/8/2017 7:18 pm : link
Ryan Anderson's contract
Houston  
Italianju : 7/8/2017 7:31 pm : link
Will not trade capela.
RE: Hypothetical Trade  
Gatorade Dunk : 7/8/2017 7:42 pm : link
In comment 13523360 uncledave said:
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for the bockers... Good for both sides IMO - ( New Window )

How exactly is that good for the Knicks? Gordon plays the same position as THjr, Anderson the same position as KP, Capela the same position as Willy. So you're just adding redundant depth for a cap savings of $8M while taking on longer contracts and giving up the best contract in the deal with KOQ.
Where is this notion that THJ has improved consistently come from?  
Greg from LI : 7/8/2017 7:42 pm : link
Before the last 25 or so games last year,
he was the same sucko player he's always been.
RE: Guessing Knicks would have to bring in  
DanMetroMan : 7/8/2017 7:42 pm : link
In comment 13523361 Rflairr said:
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Ryan Anderson's contract


Longer contract than Melo. Makes absolutely zero sense
Hope Capela is part of the deal  
Earl the goat : 7/8/2017 8:13 pm : link
Capela. KP. Willy. Gives the Knicks a very nice and talented and young 3 man rotation at the 4-5 position. They all play between 30-35 minutes a game
RE: RE: Hypothetical Trade  
RetroJint : 7/8/2017 8:26 pm : link
In comment 13523370 Gatorade Dunk said:
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for the bockers... Good for both sides IMO - ( New Window )


How exactly is that good for the Knicks? Gordon plays the same position as THjr, Anderson the same position as KP, Capela the same position as Willy. So you're just adding redundant depth for a cap savings of $8M while taking on longer contracts and giving up the best contract in the deal with KOQ.


Dunk please take the Knicks' GM job. It's obvious you know what you're doing . I think the Hardaway signing was insane . Melo will soon be gone. Then it will be time for Nixon's Checkers speech because the Knicks and their fans won't have him to kick around anymore more. Life after Melo should prove interesting . As in life without a #1 scorer . The Knicks are shaping up to be a Top 3 worst team for the coming season . Maybe that's the plan but I suspect they will truly blow .
Rather keep  
ripdumaine : 7/8/2017 8:27 pm : link
Melo than get Anderson or Gordon let alone both of them. Trading someone just to trade them is the reason we were in cap he'll for years with Ewimg
We have said no to Anderson  
larryflower37 : 7/8/2017 8:55 pm : link
That's where a 3rd team needs to step in.
I'd be happy w/  
Pep22 : 7/8/2017 9:22 pm : link
NYK give: Melo
NYK get: Mo Harkless, Festus Ezeli, rights to Sergio Llull, Isiah Hartenstein

Portland gets Anderson and obviously, Melo to Houston.
I see all of these proposed trades with just players.  
robbieballs2003 : 7/8/2017 9:29 pm : link
I think we need to be getting picks back too. Yes, we have our firsts which is nice but we gave away a shit load of seconds. It would be nice to recoup some of those or a late first.
Insiders saying Knicks are going to get crap  
adamg : 7/8/2017 9:48 pm : link
and the fanbase will hate the trade per this tweet

And on Lee:

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Courtney Lee has been told when Melo is moved the preference is to play him with THJ

link to quoted text^ - ( New Window )
RE: Insiders saying Knicks are going to get crap  
Sgrcts : 7/8/2017 9:50 pm : link
In comment 13523442 adamg said:
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and the fanbase will hate the trade per this tweet

And on Lee:



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Courtney Lee has been told when Melo is moved the preference is to play him with THJ

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That tweet was a joke
RE: RE: Insiders saying Knicks are going to get crap  
adamg : 7/8/2017 9:51 pm : link
In comment 13523443 Sgrcts said:
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In comment 13523442 adamg said:


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and the fanbase will hate the trade per this tweet

And on Lee:



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Courtney Lee has been told when Melo is moved the preference is to play him with THJ

link to quoted text^ - ( New Window )



That tweet was a joke


I just realized. I'm so anxious to hear about this man... urgh
Me rn  
adamg : 7/8/2017 9:53 pm : link
This Melo saga has been excruciating.  
bceagle05 : 7/8/2017 9:56 pm : link
Can't wait for this to be official, but I'm glad the Knicks didn't just pounce on the first crappy offer. Squeeze whatever assets you can out of this.
Gimme  
DanMetroMan : 7/8/2017 10:04 pm : link
Qi!
DMM  
Big Rick in FL : 7/8/2017 10:52 pm : link
I was just talking to someone with knowledge of the trade. He said it's definitely going to happen. He also said it's probably not going to include Qi as Houston considers him untouchable. Hopefully that's not true.
Llull  
Big Rick in FL : 7/8/2017 10:57 pm : link
I definitely wouldn't mind Llull though. He won Euroleague MVP this past year. He averaged 16 points, 6 assists and 2 rebounds in 26 minutes with Real Madrid this yes. He plays for my 2nd favorite team right now so I'd really love for him to join my favorite basketball team.
Thanks, Rick!  
bceagle05 : 7/8/2017 11:00 pm : link
Do you know if Portland is definitely the third team?
Yeah we need more than just  
Jon in NYC : 7/8/2017 11:02 pm : link
not Qi lol
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