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NFT: Brooklyn Nets acquire DeMarre Carroll and a first round pick

Anakim : 7/9/2017 12:35 am
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Toronto has traded DeMarre Carroll, a future first-round and second-round pick to Brooklyn for Justin Hamilton, league sources tell ESPN.
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Danny Kanell : 7/9/2017 1:31 am : link
The Nets have quietly had a very good offseason.
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Anakim : 7/9/2017 1:48 am : link
In comment 13523518 Danny Kanell said:
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The Nets have quietly had a very good offseason.


The Nets have a more competent FO than the Knicks. No doubt about it. Marks is undoing the mess that he inherited from Billy King.
Great work to secure the first  
hitdog42 : 7/9/2017 3:34 am : link
And get a guy that the coach likes - and the contract expires the first offseason the team looks to be players again.
Carrol was also coming off injury last year so as a player he may be better this year- and fits a need at the 3 and d spot.
I strongly did not enjoy Hamilton-
Nets badly need a 4 now
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mac attack : 7/9/2017 8:00 am : link
In comment 13523519 Anakim said:
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In comment 13523518 Danny Kanell said:


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I don't blame Billy King at all. He was taking orders from the Russian blowhard who made outlandish guarantees.
The Nets have quietly had a very good offseason.



The Nets have a more competent FO than the Knicks. No doubt about it. Marks is undoing the mess that he inherited from Billy King.
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mac attack : 7/9/2017 8:01 am : link
Formatting.... it's early.

I don't blame Billy King at all. He was taking orders from the Russian blowhard who made outlandish guarantees
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djm : 7/9/2017 8:11 am : link
In comment 13523536 mac attack said:
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Formatting.... it's early.

I don't blame Billy King at all. He was taking orders from the Russian blowhard who made outlandish guarantees


AGreed
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TyreeHelmet : 7/9/2017 8:31 am : link
I would happyily trade for Marks and Atkinson as a Knicks fan. Those guys are doing a great job in a difficult spot. Smart trade for them. Much better than capping yourself out by paying Tim Hardaway JR 71 million.
Great to get a pick and solid gamble on a guy Atkinson's coached  
Eric on Li : 7/9/2017 9:26 am : link
When Boston signed Hayward I really wanted to get Crowder and Carroll is a very similar player, just older and coming off 2 down years in a system he didn't fit. The draft picks make that a very acceptable risk to take on.

Curious to see what Marks does at the PF position and with the glut of guards on the roster. Or does he just continue to try to stockpile talent regardless of position and go for KCP?
Unless they hold onto the cap space  
hitdog42 : 7/9/2017 9:41 am : link
Or take on another dump, the names I would think they look at are
Kcp
Green
Simmons
Miles

The best fit would be green- best player kcp- and cheapest and shortest term miles.

I don't see them going for plumlee or Dedmond given Who they drafted and neither can shoot outside
RE: Unless they hold onto the cap space  
TyreeHelmet : 7/9/2017 9:48 am : link
In comment 13523578 hitdog42 said:
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Or take on another dump, the names I would think they look at are
Kcp
Green
Simmons
Miles

The best fit would be green- best player kcp- and cheapest and shortest term miles.

I don't see them going for plumlee or Dedmond given Who they drafted and neither can shoot outside


I'd try to get KCP at a discount. 4/50 mill. Where else is he getting a big deal? Still only 23...
KCP is best out there, but he'd have to be willing to be 6th man  
Eric on Li : 7/9/2017 10:04 am : link
for at least 1 year (who knows what Lin does next year). Reddick was their top target and they weren't going to put Lin on the bench for him right now, so would think they'd take the same approach with KCP. He could be a great 6th man though. Don't think Marks would go with a 3 guard starting lineup and an undersized PF (Carroll or RHJ) but maybe.
King is still to blame  
SLIM_ : 7/9/2017 10:29 am : link
The strategy was to go all-in. All in means to sacrifice the future for now. It doesn't mean to make absolutely retarded deals at all cost. They gave up a lot for Deron Williams and he didn't perform as expected. King isn't to blame for that. Joe Johnson was a solid trade in my mind as they needed that trade to keep Williams and Johnson was a very solid player for them.

They got hosed for Gerald Wallace and then got absolutely mugged for Garnett/Pierce/Terry. To not lottery protect any of the 4 1st was insane and would think that Ainge wouldn't have held up the trade for a slight concession of even one (ability to flip the 2017 1st?)
Miles gone  
hitdog42 : 7/9/2017 2:29 pm : link
To Toronto- so leaves the other guys-

Currently lineup looks like

Guards- Lin , druss, whitehead, dinwiddie, Goodwin, kilpatrick
Wings- levert, Carroll, rhj, Harris,
Bigs- mozgov, booker, acy, rookie from Texas, Nicholson

Really any of the kcp, green, Simmons would fit-- the only crowded position is ball handling guard. or preserve space for another deal
Good trade for the Nets  
Deej : 7/10/2017 10:16 am : link
As I've said on a ton of threads, Knicks and Nets should be turning cap space into picks. This isnt an amazing return, but it is good enough. They could have overpaid a UFA instead, and not gotten picks back.
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