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Camp battles you're most excited to see.

Klaatu : 7/9/2017 9:52 am
On defense, all but two starters from last year remain. Gone are LB Kelvin Sheppard and DT Johnathan Hankins. But while B.J. Goodson is the clear favorite to start at MLB this year, there is no clear favorite to start at DT next to Damon Harrison. I'm very anxious to see who gets that job, and also who'll be the first DT to come in for the big run-stuffer (who only played 61% of the defensive snaps last year), although that role may be filled by a DE in obvious passing situations.

Speaking of which, the competition for back-ups to JPP and OV should be fierce, too. Is Okwara the real deal? Is Devin Taylor ready to show the rest of the league that they made a mistake by passing up the chance to sign him? Where does Moss fit into the mix, and what about Wynn and OO? A few questions there which I hope will be answered relatively quickly.

The situation at FS with Andrew Adams and Darian Thompson has been discussed in several recent threads, and of course Landon Collins is a lock, but after those three two questions remain: One, how many Safeties will the Giants keep? Four, which they usually do, or five, which is what I'd like them to. And who will take those one or two spots?

At CB, it looks like Michael Hunter has the inside track to become the 4th one after DRC, Jenkins, and Apple, but he's certainly not a lock. And if the Giants keep five, who else will make the squad? Blake, Deayon, one of the UDFAs, or can Mykkele Thompson make a successful transition?

On offense, although I'd like the Giants to keep only two QBs, the odds are that they'll keep three. The battle between Geno Smith and Josh Johnson may not be an epic one, but it should be an interesting one.

I figure four out of five OL spots are already locked down. From left to right, Flowers, Pugh, Richburg, and Jerry look to be secure. The one battle I'm most anxious to see is at RT, where I think Adam Bisnowaty can give Bobby Hart a run for his money, with the loser riding the pine. After that, two or three back-up spots will be up for grabs.

With the skill positions, which have been discussed at length, I think it primarily comes down to a numbers game. How many RBs, TEs, and WRs will the Giants keep? We know who's going to start at RB and WR, but assuming four and six for each (and you know I'd go with three and six, but, whatever), several spots should be up for grabs. I'm anxious to see who takes those spots.

With the TEs, I'll assume that four are kept. To me, Ellison, Engram, and Adams are no-brainers. The real battle will be between the incumbent Tye and the oft-injured LaCosse for that fourth spot.

To conclude, there are two battles I'm most excited to see this summer: First, at DT, and second, at RT.

How about you?
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rats  
Bill2 : 7/9/2017 11:23 am : link
Covered by posts while I was typing
RE: The camp battle I am excited to see is along the offensive line  
Klaatu : 7/9/2017 11:28 am : link
In comment 13523610 Jay on the Island said:
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I would like to see Fluker supplant Jerry at RG and I also want to see Chad Wheeler win a backup spot along the offensive line.


Without sounding like the late, lamented Jerry-troll, I think it would take a monumental effort on D.J. Fluker's part to unseat John Jerry at RG. The Giants seem to like Jerry a lot more than most of us do. Why? I have no idea.
Unlike previous years when it  
Jay in Toronto : 7/9/2017 11:39 am : link
seemed to me mostly head-to-head battles, this year it seems like hoping that someone will set themselves apart out of a pack of hopefuls:

3rd CB
right side of OL
TE's
QB back-up
3rd and 4th DEs
2nd DT
4th-5th or 6th WR

Not clear to me if Goodson has a serious competitor at MLB -- probably just his to lose.
Q. If healthy, who is the better cover LB, JThomas or JCasillas?  
SGMen : 7/9/2017 11:43 am : link
I know we had our 2 cover backers as Casillas and Robinson last year and they did fairly well.

But JT Thomas was a good cover LB before the injuries started creeping up on him. If he fully recovers, is he the superior cover LB over Casillas? Because if he isn't, I think he could get cut outright for cap savings.
Some of these  
KeoweeFan : 7/9/2017 12:21 pm : link
are almost more dependent on one player's ability to stay healthy, rather than head to head ability re a rival, e.g.
LaCosse, Mykkele Thompson, Darien Thompson and even Geno.

My next group are the rookies who will be on the 53 and I think eventually WILL start but the question is "how soon?".

Lastly, who among the undrafted will topple an incumbent for the 53? If Jadar can learn to tackle this summer, he has a chance. Can Travis Rudolph climb the ladder and stick? Will an "unknown" RB steal a spot?

These are the battles I will be watching.
RE: Unlike previous years when it  
robbieballs2003 : 7/9/2017 12:23 pm : link
In comment 13523657 Jay in Toronto said:
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seemed to me mostly head-to-head battles, this year it seems like hoping that someone will set themselves apart out of a pack of hopefuls:

3rd CB
right side of OL
TE's
QB back-up
3rd and 4th DEs
2nd DT
4th-5th or 6th WR

Not clear to me if Goodson has a serious competitor at MLB -- probably just his to lose.


I am guessing you mean 4th corner?
RE: RE: I am hopeful that DJ Fluker  
KeoweeFan : 7/9/2017 12:31 pm : link
In comment 13523632 SGMen said:
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fights for his NFL life and is competitive for either spot on the right side of the o-line. Jerry and Hart would both be well served by having to fight for their starting jobs.

Fluker has always been physically gifted but apparently has always lacked the "mental" part of the game. He may not be lazy just lacking in mental acumen (ex. picking up stunts cause he just doesn't see them developing?) and such.
If a change of scenery and some great coaching helps him become the top backup at RG/RT, I'd be ecstatic. I like Bisnotway a lot too, he'll compete at RT for sure. Again, we should have some good competition.

We may be saying the same thing, but I have a slightly different take on DJ. With only interviews to go by (and I'm not a psychologist) I sense that Fluker LEARNS differently.
It could be that in college his superior physical skills covered any other faults. The pro game of course is very different and it would not surprise me that the disfunctional Chargers did not handle him properly. The Giants have the luxury of time to bring him along.
RE: RE: RE: I am hopeful that DJ Fluker  
SGMen : 7/9/2017 12:51 pm : link
In comment 13523677 KeoweeFan said:
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fights for his NFL life and is competitive for either spot on the right side of the o-line. Jerry and Hart would both be well served by having to fight for their starting jobs.

Fluker has always been physically gifted but apparently has always lacked the "mental" part of the game. He may not be lazy just lacking in mental acumen (ex. picking up stunts cause he just doesn't see them developing?) and such.
If a change of scenery and some great coaching helps him become the top backup at RG/RT, I'd be ecstatic. I like Bisnotway a lot too, he'll compete at RT for sure. Again, we should have some good competition.


We may be saying the same thing, but I have a slightly different take on DJ. With only interviews to go by (and I'm not a psychologist) I sense that Fluker LEARNS differently.
It could be that in college his superior physical skills covered any other faults. The pro game of course is very different and it would not surprise me that the disfunctional Chargers did not handle him properly. The Giants have the luxury of time to bring him along.
Maybe so, maybe so, hard to say right now as we haven't seen the guys in pads yet.
If Fluker outright wins the RG job or even RT because he finally figures it out, well, this team improves overnight. Jerry had a solid year last year which is why the Giants gave him a deal at season's end. We didn't try to keep Newhouse as I understand it.

I don't know what is going to happen on the right side, but I think Fluker has a good shot to be a strong back-up at RG and RT possibly. He's played both spots in his career. But he has the physical make-up to be a mauling RG. He just needs help from coach Solari and others to get the mental aspects down so he doesn't get Eli killed by missing a stunt or whatever else he struggles with. Jerry is at least steady.

At worst, maybe Fluker becomes and 3rd/4th and a yard blocker; the goal line blocker. I don't know, but he does have physical tools so anything is possible if he can just learn.
Camp Battles I got my eye on..  
est1986 : 7/9/2017 12:57 pm : link
Adams vs. Thompson - starting free safety
Tomlinson vs. Bromley - starting second defensive tackle
Jerry vs. Fluker - starting right guard
Hart vs. Fluker vs. Bisnowaty - starting right offensive tackle
Tye vs. Lacosse - tight-end depth
Ereck Flowers...  
M.S. : 7/9/2017 2:03 pm : link

...versus Ereck Flowers.

(:-)
RE: Ereck Flowers...  
SGMen : 7/9/2017 2:09 pm : link
In comment 13523731 M.S. said:
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...versus Ereck Flowers.

(:-)
Truth. But this may be the first year he's worked HARD to improve his game during the off-season. He was embarrassed on more than broadcast and if he has any pride he wants to improve. Now we just have to see if the hard work; the sleeker body; well, will it show well on the field? I'm going to play the optimist and say there is nowhere he can go but UP given his horrendous play last year. Just how far up both he and B. Hart go remains to be seen.
Bill2  
Klaatu : 7/9/2017 2:14 pm : link
I think your concerns about Perkins and Gallman are completely unwarranted. The Giants felt secure enough about Perkins to let Rashad Jennings go and anoint Perkins the starting RB, and they invested a 4th round pick in Gallman (and I doubt they did that so he could sit behind the likes of Orleans Darkwa). It's up to the staff to get them both up to speed (no pun intended) before the season begins, but their talent is undeniable.

As for Draughn being an "all around back," well, he's been "all around" the league, that's for sure. He's on, what, his eighth team in eight years? As for his "reputation for having a nose for the end zone," does one decent year where he scored six of his seven career TDs (four rushing, two receiving) qualify one for a "reputation?" I think his career 3.2 rushing average says more about him than his TDs.

However, I will admit that he has a chance to bump Shane Vereen off the roster because their skillsets are similar, but Vereen is without question the more accomplished back, and for the two years prior to last year's injury-plagued season, Vereen didn't miss a game.

Finally, as I've said repeatedly this offseason, I'd rather go with three RBs and one FB instead of four RBs. I don't like the idea of having to activate a 4th RB just to play specials, not when you could get more bang for the buck, so to speak, with an additional DB or WR. If the Giants ever need another RB, I'm sure they can find one on their practice squad, on some other team's practice squad, or on his couch.
Camp Battle I want to see?  
Doomster : 7/9/2017 2:54 pm : link
Doomster vs Klaatu in a rice pudding eating contest?

Klaatu, how much weight have you lost?
Sorry, I disagree.....  
Doomster : 7/9/2017 2:57 pm : link
They should have 4 RB's....as I said before, I don't think that 4th guy is on the roster yet...
RE: Bill2  
adamg : 7/9/2017 3:12 pm : link
In comment 13523737 Klaatu said:
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I think your concerns about Perkins and Gallman are completely unwarranted. The Giants felt secure enough about Perkins to let Rashad Jennings go and anoint Perkins the starting RB, and they invested a 4th round pick in Gallman (and I doubt they did that so he could sit behind the likes of Orleans Darkwa). It's up to the staff to get them both up to speed (no pun intended) before the season begins, but their talent is undeniable.

As for Draughn being an "all around back," well, he's been "all around" the league, that's for sure. He's on, what, his eighth team in eight years? As for his "reputation for having a nose for the end zone," does one decent year where he scored six of his seven career TDs (four rushing, two receiving) qualify one for a "reputation?" I think his career 3.2 rushing average says more about him than his TDs.

However, I will admit that he has a chance to bump Shane Vereen off the roster because their skillsets are similar, but Vereen is without question the more accomplished back, and for the two years prior to last year's injury-plagued season, Vereen didn't miss a game.

Finally, as I've said repeatedly this offseason, I'd rather go with three RBs and one FB instead of four RBs. I don't like the idea of having to activate a 4th RB just to play specials, not when you could get more bang for the buck, so to speak, with an additional DB or WR. If the Giants ever need another RB, I'm sure they can find one on their practice squad, on some other team's practice squad, or on his couch.


Your argument against Draughn applies 100-fold for Darkwa and 1000-fold for Gallman. One, a guy with <100 career carries in 4 years, the other a rookie. I like Darkwa more than Draughn and Gallman more than Darkwa but arguing against him based on experience undermines your argument.

I also hope we keep a FB instead anyway. Huesman seems like a perfect fit imo.
RE: Camp Battle I want to see?  
Klaatu : 7/9/2017 3:16 pm : link
In comment 13523762 Doomster said:
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Doomster vs Klaatu in a rice pudding eating contest?

Klaatu, how much weight have you lost?


I'm down to 255, so about 70 pounds or so since my heart attack.

Had to give up the rice pudding, though. I'm fairly certain that Kozy Shack stock has taken a big hit because of me.
adamg  
Klaatu : 7/9/2017 3:19 pm : link
I'd rather take my chances on the rookie from a big program than on any JAG, and I'd also put my money on Smith over Huesman to take the FB spot (that is, if we keep one).
RE: adamg  
adamg : 7/9/2017 4:13 pm : link
In comment 13523777 Klaatu said:
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I'd rather take my chances on the rookie from a big program than on any JAG, and I'd also put my money on Smith over Huesman to take the FB spot (that is, if we keep one).


Me too. Just, don't think dogging Draughn for his experience is fair.

And Smith seems like favorite based on the camp reports. But, Huesman seems like a better guy offensively beyond pure blocking ability. Converted from QB to RB to FB. I think he could actually run the ball in short yardage. Smith is really a moveable blocker. Either guy has qualities we could use though.
Crazy how many  
area junc : 7/9/2017 4:16 pm : link
are sleeping on Rob Thomas who is slated to start next to Snacks. He looked strong & disruptive last year. I have zero doubt he can hold the fort until/when Tomlinson is ready. Tomlinson has Fletcher Cox-like toolset. The rich get richer.

Quite frankly Bromley has never shown what Thomas has
RE: Crazy how many  
SGMen : 7/9/2017 4:21 pm : link
In comment 13523832 area junc said:
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are sleeping on Rob Thomas who is slated to start next to Snacks. He looked strong & disruptive last year. I have zero doubt he can hold the fort until/when Tomlinson is ready. Tomlinson has Fletcher Cox-like toolset. The rich get richer.

Quite frankly Bromley has never shown what Thomas has
I picked R. Thomas to start game 1 but that was simply based on his being the "biggest body outside of Snacks" at DT. The Dallas OL is big, so I figure "big vs big" - LOL.
Interesting sentiment regarding D. Tomlinson being similar to Fletcher-Cox, who ain't a bad player. I don't think anyone else has made that comparison. One thing I do know about D. Tomlinson is that is supposedly very strong which is a plus, always, for any DL.
Thomas is a player  
area junc : 7/9/2017 4:38 pm : link
For a 325# he showed surprising quick twitch burst and quickness. Hes probably one of those limited snap guys/diminishing returns but used sparingly hes a powerful effective player

Cox is definitely a better athlete than Tomlinson but they are both huge country strong SOBs
RE: Thomas is a player  
SGMen : 7/9/2017 4:56 pm : link
In comment 13523863 area junc said:
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For a 325# he showed surprising quick twitch burst and quickness. Hes probably one of those limited snap guys/diminishing returns but used sparingly hes a powerful effective player

Cox is definitely a better athlete than Tomlinson but they are both huge country strong SOBs
Hey, I look at this way with D. Tomlinson: if he is a strong run stuffer next to Snacks by say the final quarter of this season, he'll make it impossible to run up the middle on us which means teams wanting to run will be forced to go off tackle. That makes it easier for the LB's and SS to read and stuff.

I think D. Tomlinson will be a strong starter in this league. Not an All-Pro but just a strong player who does his job.
Klaatu  
Bill2 : 7/9/2017 5:44 pm : link
Yes. But Draughn did that for the OL the Chargers have. Used in the red zone behind a bad OL...versus a rookie and guys who did not go 16 games last year?

Its a question imho. I don't have a vested interest and certainly don't feel strongly enough to argue for it but I do have RB as a concern.

Even in a pass first offense between the 80 and 20, when it comes to the red zone and comes to closing out games and it comes to rain games and winter games...running is a capability that is a necessity. Not calling for a run based offense. I am reminding us that we still have to run well to win a playoff spot and beyond

Bill2  
Klaatu : 7/9/2017 5:55 pm : link
Draughn played for the Chargers in 2014, where he appeared in 4 games and averaged 1.9 ypc, 19 yards on ten carries.

His six TDs came last year, when he was with San Francisco, where my guess is his 2.6 ypc was not just a product of short-yardage situations. His longest run was 18 yards, against Carolina, Game 2. Frankly, he was much better as a receiver out of the backfield in his two years with the 49ers, which is why I say that he might- might, not will - give Vereen a run for his money.
RE: Klaatu  
SGMen : 7/9/2017 5:58 pm : link
In comment 13523929 Bill2 said:
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Yes. But Draughn did that for the OL the Chargers have. Used in the red zone behind a bad OL...versus a rookie and guys who did not go 16 games last year?

Its a question imho. I don't have a vested interest and certainly don't feel strongly enough to argue for it but I do have RB as a concern.

Even in a pass first offense between the 80 and 20, when it comes to the red zone and comes to closing out games and it comes to rain games and winter games...running is a capability that is a necessity. Not calling for a run based offense. I am reminding us that we still have to run well to win a playoff spot and beyond
You make a good point about running being (my words) a MUST in December and the playoffs at home (or the road in GreenBay) as the weather can make passing untenable.
There was an article picking the 5 best OL's in the NFC East. LT was Trent Williams, LG was Justin Pugh, than Travis Frederick at OC and RT Lane. I forget the other guard.
I think Flowers and Pugh can be well above average run blockers. TE Ellison can run block on the right. We have a shot to move the ball on the ground fairly well this year. Not Top 10 like our passing game, but maybe in that 14 to 18 range, average but good?
RE: Crazy how many  
Klaatu : 7/9/2017 5:59 pm : link
In comment 13523832 area junc said:
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are sleeping on Rob Thomas who is slated to start next to Snacks. He looked strong & disruptive last year. I have zero doubt he can hold the fort until/when Tomlinson is ready. Tomlinson has Fletcher Cox-like toolset. The rich get richer.

Quite frankly Bromley has never shown what Thomas has


No one is sleeping on Thomas, but since he and Bromley were both splitting time with the first team in the spring (base 4-3 and nickel), I don't think either of them - or Tomlinson, Bryant, or anyone else - is "slated" to start next to Snacks, regardless of where Eric has them in his Depth Chart. The competition will be open, and it should be fierce.
Camp battles  
Jerry K : 7/9/2017 6:12 pm : link
Eric Pinkins vs. everyone else.
DT as others have been pointed  
giantgiantfan : 7/9/2017 6:36 pm : link
is the most interesting. The other is the FS position. Adams came a long well as they year progressed, but Darian Thompson was the starter before he went down last year. The TE battle will be interesting as well as it could play into FB. I wish there was an interesting OL battle to watch.
RE: Camp battles  
Klaatu : 7/9/2017 6:39 pm : link
In comment 13523937 Jerry K said:
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Eric Pinkins vs. everyone else.


I don't know if you're being serious or not, but I actually like Pinkins. He can play the LB/S role in the Deone Buchanan mode, and the Giants even had him fill in at CB in the spring. He played sparingly last year, almost all of his snaps came on STs, but I hope the Giants find a way to keep him around.
RE: Camp battles  
SGMen : 7/9/2017 7:03 pm : link
In comment 13523937 Jerry K said:
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Eric Pinkins vs. everyone else.
DB/LB Eric Pinkins is 26 according to Eric's roster listing and this is his 2nd year in the league. If he makes the team, it would be over N. Behre I'd say. I hope he shows well and is at least a PS member as Behre is a hard concussion away from retiring maybe. Head injuries are no joke and he was out a long time last year.

There is always the guy...  
Giant John : 7/9/2017 7:36 pm : link
Going into camp who has very little chance but impresses enough to make a roster. Waiting to see who that might be this year. Who is the pleasant surprise?
Thanks Klaatu  
Bill2 : 7/9/2017 7:39 pm : link
I obviously did not follow or research his past like I should have.

That acknowledged, imho, our collection of running backs still concern me going into the season.

Not the top concern. But I wish we had more capability on OL and RB.

Take care
To answer the question  
adamg : 7/9/2017 8:11 pm : link
I'd say the battle between RB, FB, and TE to see which positions get the extra man and if FB is addressed per se. Tye vs. LaCosse. Darkwa vs. Draughn. Smith vs. Huesman. Which guys fill out the bottom of the 53 on offense is my main interest.

Otherwise the LB, S, and CB battles are also interesting. Pinkins seems like he could be a dark horse for the 53.
RE: There is always the guy...  
SGMen : 7/9/2017 8:12 pm : link
In comment 13523959 Giant John said:
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Going into camp who has very little chance but impresses enough to make a roster. Waiting to see who that might be this year. Who is the pleasant surprise?
Truth. Many "names" to choose from but I want to see a few pre-season games; read a few Inside Football reports; see some commentators thoughts; here some podcasts; etc., before I even begin to conjure up a name. I like a few UDFA's; I like OL Bsnotway though I think he needs a year in the weight room & with Solari; and so forth. Many names, tough to choose this early.
4th CB  
Mike from SI : 7/9/2017 8:36 pm : link
Need someone to step up. That guy's gonna see the field.
im looking forwards to a few  
BlackburnBalledOut : 7/9/2017 9:21 pm : link
CB depth - Hunter vs Thompson vs Deayon vs Whoever else steps up
3rd TE - Tye vs Lacosse vs Adams
FB - Smith vs Huessman
4th & 5th WR Lewis vs King vs Norwood vs Harris ?
RE: RE: Unlike previous years when it  
Jay in Toronto : 7/9/2017 9:47 pm : link
In comment 13523674 robbieballs2003 said:
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seemed to me mostly head-to-head battles, this year it seems like hoping that someone will set themselves apart out of a pack of hopefuls:

3rd CB
right side of OL
TE's
QB back-up
3rd and 4th DEs
2nd DT
4th-5th or 6th WR

Not clear to me if Goodson has a serious competitor at MLB -- probably just his to lose.



I am guessing you mean 4th corner?



Well I'm treat the slot (DRC) not as a corner.
At the end of the day, I believe I learned, and maybe I can speak for  
SGMen : 7/9/2017 11:28 pm : link
many others, that we have some good camp battles coming up:

RT - most likely Hart but Bisnotway, Fluker are in the mix
RG - most likely Jerry but Fluker has a shot
TE - do we keep 3 or 4?
RB - do we keep 3 or 4?
QB - some think Webb may be the #2 with a strong camp? Nah...
FB - if we carry 3 TE's, will we carry a pure FB? Smith...
DT - R. Thomas, J. Bromley, Bryant, just who wins the job?
CB - 4th CB V. Blake, M. Thompson, M. Hunter?
FS - Adams or D. Thompson?
SS - Pinkins or Behre?

Lots of battles due to quality depth. I can't recall a list this long in maybe all my years following the Giants (1978 until now). Just praying we get healthy, stay healthy and come out of the gates on fire. I truly believe a great start is needed for us to finish with a #2 seed and a bye. I'm getting ahead of myself I know, but I believe this defense can shut most anyone down if healthy. That will keep us in every early game.

And the offense has some serious skill position players. All we need is for the OL to develop and come through.
Eric Pinkins  
Jerry K : 7/10/2017 8:50 am : link
It seems he's been left out of a lot of conversations this summer. If he's in a battle with Berhe and Ihenacho, then I would say he's got a pretty good chance of making the team.
RE: Eric Pinkins  
SGMen : 7/10/2017 10:56 am : link
In comment 13524102 Jerry K said:
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It seems he's been left out of a lot of conversations this summer. If he's in a battle with Berhe and Ihenacho, then I would say he's got a pretty good chance of making the team.
Due to his size and coverage / versatility abilities, SS Eric Pinkins (over Behre) is a strong possibility. He has been at the NFL level and knows the defense. I like Behre cause he hits hard but may the best man win.
If Bromley starts  
Carl in CT : 7/10/2017 11:12 am : link
We are in trouble.
I love Berhe's game.  
area junc : 7/10/2017 11:45 am : link
he is one of the biggest hitting S's in the league. Thought the early season pairing with Collins added intimidating presence. He isn't a household name but I guarantee any RB, WR or TE in the league knows he is going to get clobbered going into a game vs. the Giants. always counts for something in sports - the fear element
RE: If Bromley starts  
SGMen : 7/10/2017 11:46 am : link
In comment 13524234 Carl in CT said:
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We are in trouble.
As long as Snacks and Vernon surround J. Bromley (or Bryant, or R. Thomas or D. Tomlinson) we'll be fine. We'll be in trouble, huge trouble, should Snacks go down at any point. That would be devastating.

I give the edge to R. Thomas to start due to his size and experience in the defense. J. Bromley will spell him (and Snacks) a bit. D. Tomlinson will watch and learn early and work his way into the rotation as the season moves along.
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arcarsenal : 7/10/2017 12:04 pm : link
Pinkins was disrupting the entire offense in practice during last season.
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SGMen : 7/10/2017 12:07 pm : link
In comment 13524297 arcarsenal said:
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Pinkins was disrupting the entire offense in practice during last season.
Interesting to hear. Hey, maybe I'm wrong about this kid. 26 or not, he may be more mature and ready than most and therefore could be a guy we want around for what I believe will be a SB run.
I love Berhe's game, too.  
Klaatu : 7/10/2017 12:38 pm : link
I love the fact that he missed ten games last year with concussions, and then when he was asked if he was worried about the long-term effects, and if he was going to change his tackling style, he replied, "Nobody lives forever." That's just the kind of guy I want on IR for my team!
Bromley was considered a project;  
grizz299 : 7/10/2017 2:09 pm : link
A project with latent talent and a very strong work ethic.
The board seems to have given up on him, I'm not optimistic but I also don't think we're necessary "in trouble" if he starts...He was also projected as a three technique and a disruptor, so he'd match up well across from Snacks.
It's also year three for the kid from Syracuse, aboiut the time you'd expect him to emerge...IE if it's ever going to happen. Another interesting note for pre-season gazing.
RE: Bromley was considered a project;  
SGMen : 7/10/2017 2:40 pm : link
In comment 13524477 grizz299 said:
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A project with latent talent and a very strong work ethic.
The board seems to have given up on him, I'm not optimistic but I also don't think we're necessary "in trouble" if he starts...He was also projected as a three technique and a disruptor, so he'd match up well across from Snacks.
It's also year three for the kid from Syracuse, aboiut the time you'd expect him to emerge...IE if it's ever going to happen. Another interesting note for pre-season gazing.
It is year #4 for J. Bromley so he'll be a UFA after this year. My guess is that he'll be a part of the rotation all year next to Snacks and may even spell Snacks at times so he can rest. IMHO, he hasn't quite lived up to what you'd hope for from a 3rd round pick BUT if he improves this year and plays well than all will be forgotten. He has some talent and can "hold the fort" until D. Tomlinson develops and is ready.
I will be surprised if Berhe  
Doomster : 7/10/2017 3:13 pm : link
makes the team....no coverage skills and he is one tackle away from being IR'd....
RE: I will be surprised if Berhe  
adamg : 7/10/2017 3:30 pm : link
In comment 13524544 Doomster said:
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makes the team....no coverage skills and he is one tackle away from being IR'd....


Plus - as Klaatu mentioned - he doesn't think his head hitting should be something concerning. 4th safety is potentially a really interesting battle. If Jadar Johnson takes to the coaching...
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