Giants
WR
Raanan ESPN NY: Football worlds collide as Odell Beckham Jr., Paul Pogba ride roller coaster together
http://www.espn.com/sportsnation/story/_/page/QTP_170709OBJPogbacoaster/football-worlds-collide-new-york-giants-odell-beckham-jr-manchester-united-paul-pogba-ride-roller-coaster-together
Traina Inside Football: 2017 Training Camp Preview: WR Brandon Marshall
https://insidefootball.com/preview-roger-lewis-2/
RT
Traina Inside Football: 2017 Training Camp Preview: Adam Bisnowaty
https://insidefootball.com/2017-training-camp-preview-adam-bisnowaty/
LT
Traina Inside Football: 2017 Training Camp Preview: OT Chad Wheeler
https://insidefootball.com/2017-training-camp-preview-ot-chad-wheeler/
CB
Kratch NJ.com: Giants roster countdown, No. 54: Michael Hunter firmly in cornerback mix
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2017/07/giants_roster_countdown_no_54_cb_michael_hunter.html
S
Duggan NJ.com: Giants roster countdown, No. 55: Can physically imposing DB Eric Pinkins break through
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2017/07/giants_roster_countdown_no_55_s_eric_pinkins.html
NFL
Benoit MMQB: GUEST MMQB: ON TUTORS, PROBLEMS AND ONE OF THE UGLIEST GIGS IN FOOTBALL
Our guest MMQB columnist talks X’s and O’s—and dollars and cents—with Arizona’s David Johnson. Plus more with New England’s new cornerback, Atlanta’s near hero and the square-peg Packer adept at plugging holes
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/07/10/david-johnson-arizona-cardinals-guest-monday-morning-qb-nfl-andy-benoit
CAROLINA
Person Charlotte Observer: Panthers locked up Kawann Short this spring. Now what to do with Star Lotulelei ...
http://amp.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article160361444.html
CINCINNATI
Sheeran Cincy Jungle: William Jackson III and Jordan Willis’ athleticism compared to top NFL players
https://www.cincyjungle.com/platform/amp/2017/7/10/15942070/william-jackson-jordan-willis-athleticism-top-nfl-players
CLEVELAND
Patsko Cleveland Plain Dealer: The best Browns defensive starters since 1999 (and their backups)
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/07/the_best_browns_defensive_star.html
DALLAS
Hairopolous Dallas Morning News: Cowboys QB outlook: How ready are Dak Prescott, his backups entering 2017?
https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2017/07/09/cowboys-qbs-outlook-ready-dak-prescott-backups-entering-2017
George Dallas Morning News: Cowboys player profiles: What's David Irving's pass-rush ceiling after his suspension?
https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2017/07/09/cowboys-player-profiles-david-irvings-pass-rush-ceiling-suspension
JACKSONVILLE
Kaye WTLV Jacksonville: Taking a look at which undrafted free agents have the best shot at making the Jaguars' 53-man roster
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/mb/amp/sports/nfl/jacksonville-jaguars/which-undrafted-free-agents-have-the-best-shot-at-making-the-jaguars-53-man-roster/45496729
NEW ENGLAND
Dean Daily Commercial: Former UF standout Gillislee ready for new role with Patriots
http://www.dailycommercial.com/sports/20170709/former-uf-standout-gillislee-ready-for-new-role-with-patriots
SAN FRANCISCO
Ostler SF Chronicle: Don’t expect Colin Kaepernick to beg for a job
http://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/ostler/article/Don-t-expect-Colin-Kaepernick-to-beg-for-a-job-11276273.php
TAMPA BAY
Darrington Montgomery Advertiser: O.J. Howard adjusts to NFL life
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/sports/2017/07/10/o-j-howard-adjusting-nfl-life/463205001/
TAMPA BAY
Auman TB Times: "Can we just have another lockout" -- Bucs' Chris Baker, teammates join list of NFL players jealous of "NBA money."
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bucs/bucs-chris-baker-among-nfl-players-jealous-of-nba-money/2329813
WASHINGTON
Chatelain Omaha World Herald: Ex-Husker Niles Paul battles injuries, is willing to play multiple positions on route back in NFL
http://www.omaha.com/huskers/football/ex-husker-niles-paul-battles-injuries-is-willing-to-play/article_c68ba740-cff4-5ff1-b8c4-1838a8d14084.html
Former Giants News
Bucholtz The Comeback: Former Florida Gator Will Hill III thrown out of CFL game after grabbing official
http://thecomeback.com/ncaa/former-florida-gator-will-hill-iii-thrown-cfl-game-grabbing-official.html
History
RIP Eddie Crawford member of the 1957 Giants
"Following his collegiate career, Crawford played in the North-South Game in Miami, Florida, and was then drafted by the New York Giants of the National Football League. He was an instant success with the Giants in 1957, playing first team as a defensive back and flanker on offense. However, the nagging shoulder injury from his college days limited his pro football career to that single season, even though Giants assistant coach Vince Lombardi was encouraging Crawford to return in 1958."
http://www.olemisssports.com/genrel/070917aaa.html
Giants Birthdays 7-10
Brett Alexander FS/SS FA-PIT 2004 NYG 2004-2005 7-10-1971
Andy Haase TE UDFA-Northern Colorado 1998 NYG 1998 7-10-1974
Ryan Hale DT D7-Arkansas 1999 NYG 1999-2000 7-10-1975
Herb Johnson HB FA-Saskatchewan CFL 1954 NYG 1954 7-10-1928
Malcolm Scott TE D5-LSU 1983 NYG 1983 7-10-1961
Jerry Shay LDT TR-ATL 1970 NYG 1970-1971 7-10-1944
QB
Duggan NJ.com: Why Giants QB Eli Manning is a lock for Hall of Fame
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2017/07/rarefied_air_do_you_know_where_giants_qb_eli_manni.html
NFL
Farrar SI.com: NFL1000: Ranking the NFL's True Franchise Cornerstones
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2720229-nfl1000-ranking-the-nfls-true-franchise-cornerstones.amp.html
C
Duggan NJ.com: Giants roster countdown No. 53: OL Brett Jones
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2017/07/giants_roster_countdown_no_53_can_ol_brett_jones_h.html
DT
Orr NFL.com: Eli Manning like LeBron? Damon Harrison explains
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000818766/article/eli-manning-like-lebron-damon-harrison-explains
What I don't get is how he gets a shot at LT while a kid like Pugh, who the Giants felt a few years ago could play the LT position, or a kid like Bisnowaty who they traded up to draft, hasn't. From what I can tell Pugh has never really taken any kind of significant practice snaps at LT since he was drafted. Some would say that he struggled at R. I thought while he had a sub-par soph year there, his rookie season at RT he might have been our best OL. For some reasons it's as though the coaches have simply disagreed with the scouts and GM on his ability to play LT.
Now we read about Biz and how he has to re-learn everything about blocking from the right side. Why the disconnect? I'd not be critical except for the fact that our OL coaches haven't exactly established a record of successfully developing young players at their position. Does a player have to first be successful at the right side before they are given a shot at the left? Why would that be?
I just feel that something is very wrong here. Hmmmm...
Flowers-Pugh-Richburg-Jerry-Hart
(Pugh)-(Jones)-(Jones)-(Fluker)-(Fluker/Bisnotoway)
PS: Wheeler, at least 2 others (Desmer?)
We may carry 8 OL's with all active on gameday's?
I said in another thread that Wheeler is the type of prospect the Giants have not been able to develop in recent years. My hope is that with the new S & C staff, along with the new O-Line coach, that trend will get reversed.
Also, I wouldn't read too much into who's playing LT with the second team in the spring. Patti (not the guy who wrote the article) surmised that if the Giants had to replace Ereck Flowers the job would go to Justin Pugh. I don't know that I buy that, though. I think a guy like Biz can take the swing-tackle job if he doesn't beat out Hart for the starting RT job.
Flowers-Pugh-Richburg-Jerry-Hart
(Pugh)-(Jones)-(Jones)-(Fluker)-(Fluker/Bisnotoway)
PS: Wheeler, at least 2 others (Desmer?)
We may carry 8 OL's with all active on gameday's?
I didn't forget Adam Gettis but am thinking he may be the odd man out in a numbers game. However, I also know he has some versatility inside. Tough call on how this one will play out. But I do know that we really need Bisnotoway needs to work out at OT for depth and I do believe he will. Four year starter being coached up by Solari, I like his chances.
The Giant offense, assuming we get out of camp very healthy, should absolutely FEAST on opening day. I think we should do to Dallas what they try to do to other teams: run the ball, throw to the open man, keep moving the chains and score TD's in the greenzone now that we have big man Marshall; TE's Engram, Ellison, Adams; and, improved OL play. Don't give the Cowboys many opportunities; stuff the Cowboy run game and make Prescott beat you.
RB Junior Coffey ATL 1969 knee injuries 1969, 1970 Waived 1972
RB Ron Johnson CLE 1970 knee and thigh injuries 1971 FA 1975
FB Allen Jacobs GB 1966 three stints on IR 66, 67, 68 Waived 1969
RT Steve Wright GB 1968 knee injury 1968 Waived 1969
DT John LoVetere LA 1963 knee injury 1964 Waived 1965, 1966
DT Jerry Shay ATL 1970 broken leg 1970 Retired after 1971 season
DT Jim Kanicki CLE 1970 achilles injury 1971 Waived 1972
DE Maury Youmans ATL 1966 knee injury 1966 Retired 1966
DE Clark Miller SF 1969 knee injury 1969 Waived 1969
LB Bill Swain MIN 1965 knee injury 1966 Traded to DET 1968
MB Vince Costello CLE 1967 knee injury 1968 Retired 1968
CB Bennie McRae CHI 1971 assorted injuries 1971 Retired 1971
CB Dave Hathcock GB 1967 knee injury 1967 Waived 1969
RB Junior Coffey ATL 1969 knee injuries 1969, 1970 Waived 1972
RB Ron Johnson CLE 1970 knee and thigh injuries 1971 FA 1975
FB Allen Jacobs GB 1966 three stints on IR 66, 67, 68 Waived 1969
RT Steve Wright GB 1968 knee injury 1968 Waived 1969
DT John LoVetere LA 1963 knee injury 1964 Waived 1965, 1966
DT Jerry Shay ATL 1970 broken leg 1970 Retired after 1971 season
DT Jim Kanicki CLE 1970 achilles injury 1971 Waived 1972
DE Maury Youmans ATL 1966 knee injury 1966 Retired 1966
DE Clark Miller SF 1969 knee injury 1969 Waived 1969
LB Bill Swain MIN 1965 knee injury 1966 Traded to DET 1968
MB Vince Costello CLE 1967 knee injury 1968 Retired 1968
CB Bennie McRae CHI 1971 assorted injuries 1971 Retired 1971
CB Dave Hathcock GB 1967 knee injury 1967 Waived 1969
Thanks Dawg..I thought backup tackle Steve Wright (deemed good enough to start for most teams) of the Packers would be a steal..He was 27(?) at the time and young enough to make an impact, imo..I believe he was involved in the Francis Peay trade (I was glad to see him go)..Peay actually played pretty well for Lombardi iirc..Of course, who didn't?
Also, I wouldn't read too much into who's playing LT with the second team in the spring. Patti (not the guy who wrote the article) surmised that if the Giants had to replace Ereck Flowers the job would go to Justin Pugh. I don't know that I buy that, though. I think a guy like Biz can take the swing-tackle job if he doesn't beat out Hart for the starting RT job.
My concern is less about who's lining up at LT in the spring generally and more about how the Giants determine who can or cannot play the position. I don't think Pugh ever got any kind of significant practice snaps at the position. I wonder what we would think of Flowers had he been forced to go to RT as was the plan at the time. Would he ever have gotten a shot at LT or would he have been forced inside?
Think about the Giants approach - it generally is as follows: Draft a player who has lots of experience at LT, declare him following the draft as capable of playing LT, put him at RT to practice and learn, and never really give him snaps at LT. Biz was a possible LT and is having to learn RT first, which has been described as awkward and similar to learning to write with your other hand.
Can you imagine this approach in baseball? Kid has a natural swing, we think he could be a great left-handed hitter in the park, we're going to start him out hitting only right-handed to see how he does. If he works out well there we'll have developed a great switch-hitter. If not, we'll teach him to bunt.
Simply ludicrous and I know the analogy isn't entirely correct, but the point is that the team has struggled to develop talent on the OL and you have to wonder what is more difficult - helping college LT's learn to play LT in the pro game or trying to teach them RT first.
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Also, I wouldn't read too much into who's playing LT with the second team in the spring. Patti (not the guy who wrote the article) surmised that if the Giants had to replace Ereck Flowers the job would go to Justin Pugh. I don't know that I buy that, though. I think a guy like Biz can take the swing-tackle job if he doesn't beat out Hart for the starting RT job.
My concern is less about who's lining up at LT in the spring generally and more about how the Giants determine who can or cannot play the position. I don't think Pugh ever got any kind of significant practice snaps at the position. I wonder what we would think of Flowers had he been forced to go to RT as was the plan at the time. Would he ever have gotten a shot at LT or would he have been forced inside?
Think about the Giants approach - it generally is as follows: Draft a player who has lots of experience at LT, declare him following the draft as capable of playing LT, put him at RT to practice and learn, and never really give him snaps at LT. Biz was a possible LT and is having to learn RT first, which has been described as awkward and similar to learning to write with your other hand.
Can you imagine this approach in baseball? Kid has a natural swing, we think he could be a great left-handed hitter in the park, we're going to start him out hitting only right-handed to see how he does. If he works out well there we'll have developed a great switch-hitter. If not, we'll teach him to bunt.
Simply ludicrous and I know the analogy isn't entirely correct, but the point is that the team has struggled to develop talent on the OL and you have to wonder what is more difficult - helping college LT's learn to play LT in the pro game or trying to teach them RT first.
However, with a new OL coach in Solari, he didn't develop year #2 as expected. You may even say he may have regressed some. But I think the reason he didn't develop is that as a young man he didn't put in the required effort to learn and get better, or so the whispers were. This off-season, he appears to have put in the effort both in the gym and elsewhere.
If both Flowers and Hart improve from "bottom quarter of th league" bad to around middle of the pack or slightly better (remember, they are but 23 and year 2 of coach Solari's style...) this offense will really click.
We haven't drafted enough OL "high" for whatever reason and the lower round guys never developed over the last bunch of years. This year, I think we see improvement from everyone outside of Jerry who is who he is. Pugh just needs to stay healthy is all and we'll be fine. Heck, they all need to stay healthy really.
Go Giants!