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NFT: Knicks Have a GM In Place?

Jon in NYC : 7/13/2017 1:55 pm
@StevePopper 3 minutes ago
Hearing from other teams that Knicks have front office settled - Steve Mills as president and a GM selected.
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RE: RE: Another of Dans guys?  
TyreeHelmet : 7/13/2017 5:18 pm : link
In comment 13527576 DanMetroMan said:
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While CSKA Moscow made contact with Sergio Rodriguez in order to lure him back to Europe, ˇ°El Chachoˇ± wants to stay in the NBA and he is negotiating a new three-year deal with the Sixers.
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The two sides are near a deal, Rodriguez is expected to get around $4 million per season, which is almost a raise compared to his initial $8 million contract for the 2016-17 season. Almost half of those money went to Real Madrid for the buy out of the player and now the Spanish point guard is going to get a multiyear deal without having any other financial obligiation to the Spanish powerhouse.



Yup. Lost Caruso and Sergio the same day and Rondo apparently "in talks" with the Pelicans.

We are down to Lawson, Deron, Jennings, Rose


So the Knicks could have gotten Sergio ( vet pass first PG), Ian Clark ( young guy with upside) and Justin Holiday for less money and years then what Hardaway got. While leaving Baker as a restricted free agent.

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Enzo : 7/13/2017 5:18 pm : link
In comment 13527583 Jon in NYC said:
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out of those 4 I take Jennings and I don't think twice.

Out of those 4 I take none and lose a shitload of games with Ron Baker

you lose with Jennings too thanks to his awful defense - only he showed the ball will move when he's running PG, which will help KP, Wily, etc. develop on offense.
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Jon in NYC : 7/13/2017 5:19 pm : link
In comment 13527594 Enzo said:
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out of those 4 I take Jennings and I don't think twice.

Out of those 4 I take none and lose a shitload of games with Ron Baker


you lose with Jennings too thanks to his awful defense - only he showed the ball will move when he's running PG, which will help KP, Wily, etc. develop on offense.


Good point. He's also super entertaining.
Pelicans  
DanMetroMan : 7/13/2017 5:20 pm : link
think they will land Rondo. Sent a "team" to visit him at home, he and Cousins are apparently close.
I  
DanMetroMan : 7/13/2017 5:22 pm : link
think I'm with you guys, of that group I'd go with Jennings. Seemed to have decent rapport with KP. Hated the triangle, would likely play even better in an uptempo offense favored by Hornacek. of those 4 I think Jennings would be my pick. Rose being last.
Rose  
TyreeHelmet : 7/13/2017 5:28 pm : link
Really shows you how he is perceived around the league. He's going to get the vet minimum. A 28 year old former MVP. That has to be a first in league history.

Really wish Phil got that Rubio trade done. Would have been steal for the Knicks.
so now, a pity party for Phil?  
ColHowPepper : 7/13/2017 5:33 pm : link
Because certainly he was undermined by the Dolan triumvirate? So they planted a chip in Phil's brain to badmouth Melo (never mind he's here in the first place because of Dolan) and float the trial balloon to trade KP. As manh george said, he did plenty to undermine himself.

The Knicks' fan brigade, sainted martyrdom, waiting on edge like Godot for the Melo deal: This franchise, when in HS you waited too long to, or couldn't otherwise, get an attractive prom date and you keep hoping you wake up on Prom morning that she's going to transform from pumpkin to Cinderella. I say this in empathy.
So it's being reported  
Phil in LA : 7/13/2017 5:37 pm : link
Perry and the Knicks have come to terms.
I won't be too upset missing out on Rondo.  
Keith : 7/13/2017 5:40 pm : link
He's a good fit, but I'd rather just be really bad. A guy like Sergio on a 4M per year deal would be ideal.
Hope they aren't giving up  
Tony in Berlin : 7/13/2017 5:42 pm : link
picks as compensation.
Perry  
TyreeHelmet : 7/13/2017 5:44 pm : link
What's Perry's motivation for coming to the Knicks? Obviously money but is that it? Maybe Mills is promising more power than he has with Vlade? Just a little strange to leave a job he took in April. Regardless its good news for the Knicks.
Shockingly, this is Perry's "dream job" per reports.  
bceagle05 : 7/13/2017 5:57 pm : link
Hard to fathom, but nice to hear. Hopefully he knows how to kiss Dolan's ass and become his Glen Sather.
don't ever change Frank!  
Enzo : 7/13/2017 6:01 pm : link
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Scott Perry is an experienced executive with connections. Also was in Orlando front office when they drafted Elfrid Payton & Mario Hezonja.
At least Frank  
bceagle05 : 7/13/2017 6:04 pm : link
didn't call it an Isiah decision.
It's not going to matter who is brought in to be the GM  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/13/2017 6:13 pm : link
with the kind of amateur hour operation the Garden is.

I don't even know the guy, but hopefully he takes a lot of Dolan's money and he lands on his feet when he's the next guy fired for not overcoming Incompetence Square Garden.
RE: It's not going to matter who is brought in to be the GM  
steve in ky : 7/13/2017 6:19 pm : link
In comment 13527659 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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with the kind of amateur hour operation the Garden is.

I don't even know the guy, but hopefully he takes a lot of Dolan's money and he lands on his feet when he's the next guy fired for not overcoming Incompetence Square Garden.


At some point you hope that one of these guys figures out how to work within the MSG structure and can succeed in spite of the hurdles.
one thing in regards to melo trade  
nygiants16 : 7/13/2017 6:20 pm : link
knicks have yet to announce baker signing, could mean they think they are getting cap space in trade
RE: RE: It's not going to matter who is brought in to be the GM  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/13/2017 6:28 pm : link
In comment 13527666 steve in ky said:
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with the kind of amateur hour operation the Garden is.

I don't even know the guy, but hopefully he takes a lot of Dolan's money and he lands on his feet when he's the next guy fired for not overcoming Incompetence Square Garden.



At some point you hope that one of these guys figures out how to work within the MSG structure and can succeed in spite of the hurdles.


To date it seems like the way to do it is be best pals with Jimmy. It got Allan Houston, Isiah Thomas, and Steve Mills great success.
RE: Fatman  
Gatorade Dunk : 7/13/2017 6:50 pm : link
In comment 13527550 Elite Mobster #32 said:
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"totes the party line?" who talks like this ?

Just joking with you Fatman!

Why are they trying to force this trade for Carmelo ?
Are the Knicks are willing to settle for other teams spare parts.
We need a superior scorer for Carmelo, Or No Deal !!

If that is not available , its not a fair trade.
Carmelo has recently had a 62 Point game, maybe he can do it again.

Phil is gone now, he created serious tension and traded away players who have been active, in the Playoffs and Championships with other teams.

Lets play this season with what we have and continue to make adjustments.

No.
RE: one thing in regards to melo trade  
Keith : 7/13/2017 6:54 pm : link
In comment 13527668 nygiants16 said:
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knicks have yet to announce baker signing, could mean they think they are getting cap space in trade


Then use that cap space for Rondo?
RE: Perry  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/13/2017 6:57 pm : link
In comment 13527623 TyreeHelmet said:
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What's Perry's motivation for coming to the Knicks? Obviously money but is that it? Maybe Mills is promising more power than he has with Vlade? Just a little strange to leave a job he took in April. Regardless its good news for the Knicks.


He's almost certainly getting a lot of money.

And always remember, this was Larry Brown's "dream job" too.
RE: RE: one thing in regards to melo trade  
nygiants16 : 7/13/2017 6:59 pm : link
In comment 13527697 Keith said:
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knicks have yet to announce baker signing, could mean they think they are getting cap space in trade



Then use that cap space for Rondo?


knowing the knicks giving rose a 4 year deal
Yeah, it's a pretty big promotion.  
Keith : 7/13/2017 7:00 pm : link
He's probably going to get a huge raise as well as more say in personnel.
melos agent is in houston  
nygiants16 : 7/13/2017 7:00 pm : link
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Potential lineup with Melo trade and Rondo signing...  
Keith : 7/13/2017 7:04 pm : link
Rondo
Hardaway
Harkless
KP
Willy

Second team
Baker/Frank eventually
Lee
Kuzminskas
KOQ
Noah
I think Rondo is by far the best option  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/13/2017 7:06 pm : link
But I can't see that happening unless it happens very soon and they're aggressive about it.
RE: melos agent is in houston  
Strahan91 : 7/13/2017 7:08 pm : link
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Melo and Paul are both Leon Rose clients I believe
The Knicks have been in contact with Rondo's agent  
Keith : 7/13/2017 7:08 pm : link
so they have expressed interest. It's in Rondo's best interest to wait for the Knicks to get involved to drive up his price. I'm sure the Knicks told his agent that they are in the process of trying to create some space. I don't think it's so far fetched. He's a good fit and you can probably get him for 2-20 or something like that.
I don't think it's far-fetched  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/13/2017 7:09 pm : link
But he'd be a fool to sit around waiting for an offer from the Knicks if he already has any number of teams interested in him.
I think Houston is the most motivated team  
Keith : 7/13/2017 7:10 pm : link
to get this deal done. Hopefully the Knicks are negotiating from that position, not the team desperate to rid themselves of Melo.
RE: I don't think it's far-fetched  
Keith : 7/13/2017 7:13 pm : link
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But he'd be a fool to sit around waiting for an offer from the Knicks if he already has any number of teams interested in him.


It's not like he's getting tons of interest. The Lakers reached out, but they can only give him like 4M and I'm sure they are out now. The Pelicans reached out, but he's not starting there and I doubt he will get any money. He'd be dumb not to wait for the Knicks IF they have indeed told them to wait.
Does anyone really think that a  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 7/13/2017 7:15 pm : link
Harden, Paul, & Melo team is toppling Golden State?
RE: RE: melos agent is in houston  
nygiants16 : 7/13/2017 7:35 pm : link
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Melo and Paul are both Leon Rose clients I believe


leon rose does not represent chris paul
Breaking News:  
DanMetroMan : 7/13/2017 9:24 pm : link
Jsports is a fake/bser. Knicks "pausing" trade talks with Houston and Cleveland per Shelbourne
RE: Breaking News:  
Jon in NYC : 7/13/2017 9:27 pm : link
In comment 13527791 DanMetroMan said:
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Jsports is a fake/bser. Knicks "pausing" trade talks with Houston and Cleveland per Shelbourne


Seems harsh. It's pretty clear that that's what players have told him.
Two yard line.  
bceagle05 : 7/13/2017 9:29 pm : link
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Keith : 7/13/2017 9:35 pm : link
Derrick Rose and the Bucks are in "discussions to schedule a meeting" as early as this weekend, according to Chris Haynes of ESPN.com.
When the date is set, the meeting is expected to be in Los Angeles. Rose and the Bucks have already met once, and this report adds that the toughest obstacle is compensation for Rose. The Bucks are already over the tax, so the most they could offer right now would be $5.2 million for the upcoming season.
RE: ...  
Jim in Fairfax : 7/13/2017 9:46 pm : link
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Derrick Rose and the Bucks are in "discussions to schedule a meeting" as early as this weekend, according to Chris Haynes of ESPN.com.
When the date is set, the meeting is expected to be in Los Angeles. Rose and the Bucks have already met once, and this report adds that the toughest obstacle is compensation for Rose. The Bucks are already over the tax, so the most they could offer right now would be $5.2 million for the upcoming season.

And just a few short months ago, he thought he was getting a $150M deal. How the mighty have fallen.
RE: Two yard line.  
twostepgiants : 7/13/2017 10:06 pm : link
I guess it was on the Knicks 2 yard line

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seems like  
nygiants16 : 7/13/2017 10:07 pm : link
knicks didnt like wht they were getting and putting it out there that they are in no rush so houston better up the offer
RE: Breaking News:  
Gatorade Dunk : 7/13/2017 11:02 pm : link
In comment 13527791 DanMetroMan said:
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Jsports is a fake/bser. Knicks "pausing" trade talks with Houston and Cleveland per Shelbourne

How does a developing situation while one of the teams involved onboards a new GM discredit any news from a few days prior?
RE: RE: Breaking News:  
DanMetroMan : 7/13/2017 11:22 pm : link
In comment 13527878 Gatorade Dunk said:
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Jsports is a fake/bser. Knicks "pausing" trade talks with Houston and Cleveland per Shelbourne


How does a developing situation while one of the teams involved onboards a new GM discredit any news from a few days prior?


He said the deal was done. He said Melo is going to Houston and the trade was completed. Now word is the Knicks were talking to both Houston and Cleveland and are "pausing" any discussions. No deal was done. False information . Done means done. There aren't 2 teams involved when "it's done".
Jsports  
DanMetroMan : 7/13/2017 11:28 pm : link
"Sometimes in negotiations if your not getting what you want pulling out for forces the other side to increase the offer."

But I thought it was done? Hmmm weird
RE: RE: RE: Breaking News:  
Gatorade Dunk : 7/13/2017 11:43 pm : link
In comment 13527884 DanMetroMan said:
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Jsports is a fake/bser. Knicks "pausing" trade talks with Houston and Cleveland per Shelbourne


How does a developing situation while one of the teams involved onboards a new GM discredit any news from a few days prior?



He said the deal was done. He said Melo is going to Houston and the trade was completed. Now word is the Knicks were talking to both Houston and Cleveland and are "pausing" any discussions. No deal was done. False information . Done means done. There aren't 2 teams involved when "it's done".

I definitely see what you're saying, but I think it's just a matter of semantics. There has been nothing to suggest that NYK/HOU weren't at the point of just tying up loose ends with finding a 3rd/4th team to make the deal work. To this point, it was not yet completely done. We knew that.

Clearly it wasn't 100% done; we didn't need an announcement tonight to realize that. So I stand by what I said - I don't think that his original take was invalidated by a material change to the scenario with the Knicks hiring SP.
RE: Jsports  
Meats and Cheeses : 7/14/2017 1:08 am : link
In comment 13527886 DanMetroMan said:
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"Sometimes in negotiations if your not getting what you want pulling out for forces the other side to increase the offer."

But I thought it was done? Hmmm weird


He never said that. He said when all was said and done, Melo would be a Rocket. He may be right. This guy was right on the money that the Knicks would take the French pg. He also knew a lot about Joakim Noah's recruitment of Courtney Lee last summer. He is not a fraud.
I don't ever think  
ryanmkeane : 7/14/2017 10:46 am : link
Jsports said the trade was completed. He said Melo will be a Rocket when all is said and done.
Jsports  
ryanmkeane : 7/14/2017 10:47 am : link
also doesn't advertise himself as being something that he's not. He said he doesn't "break news" of trades, he just reports what he hears from sources. And his sources have said to him all along Melo will be a Rocket, no matter what the teams or players involved are.
RE: Potential lineup with Melo trade and Rondo signing...  
ryanmkeane : 7/14/2017 10:48 am : link
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Rondo
Hardaway
Harkless
KP
Willy

Second team
Baker/Frank eventually
Lee
Kuzminskas
KOQ
Noah

That team just MIGHT be not horrific enough to sneak out of the top 5 lottery.
Rondo  
DanMetroMan : 7/14/2017 10:51 am : link
is close to a deal with the Pelicans so barring a shocking Melo deal it's hard to imagine he's the PG.
RE: Rondo  
Metnut : 7/14/2017 10:54 am : link
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is close to a deal with the Pelicans so barring a shocking Melo deal it's hard to imagine he's the PG.


It's an interesting deal for the Pels. Rondo looked good in some big games last year and the Bulls might've upset the Celtics had he not gotten hurt. Side note, if Bulls upset the Celts and make a run to the ECF last year, how does that affect the Bulls offseason this year?
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