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Jon in NYC : 7/13/2017 1:55 pm
@StevePopper 3 minutes ago
Hearing from other teams that Knicks have front office settled - Steve Mills as president and a GM selected.
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DanMetroMan : 7/13/2017 4:07 pm : link
BA executive career[edit]
Perry was hired as a front office executive for the Detroit Pistons by President Joe Dumars in June 2000. As a member of their executive team, Perry assisted in building a roster that went to six Eastern Conference Finals appearances (2003-2008), two Eastern Conference Championships (2004, 2005) and the 2004 NBA Championship.

Afterward, Perry served as the assistant general manager for the Seattle SuperSonics (now Oklahoma City Thunder) for one season (200708).[3] He was part of the front office staff that drafted Kevin Durant to the Sonics/Thunder in the first round with the second overall pick. He then returned to the Pistons to become vice president of basketball operations from 2008 to 2012.[2]

On June 25, 2012, Perry was hired by Orlando Magic General Manager Rob Hennigan to become Hennigan's vice president and assistant general manager.[1] ESPN basketball analyst and former NBA player Chauncey Billups spoke highly of Perry as the assistant General Manager of the Magic, saying, "I love Scott Perry in the front office."[4][5]

In his time in Orlando, Perry helped draft Victor Oladipo (2013), Aaron Gordon and Elfrid Payton (2014), and Mario Hezonja (2015) in Orlando.

On April 21, 2017 Perry was hired to be the Executive Vice President of Basketball Operations for the Sacramento Kings.
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ADeP7 : 7/13/2017 4:07 pm : link
Perry was hired as a front office executive for the Detroit Pistons by President Joe Dumars in June 2000. As a member of their executive team, Perry assisted in building a roster that went to six Eastern Conference Finals appearances (2003-2008), two Eastern Conference Championships (2004, 2005) and the 2004 NBA Championship.

Afterward, Perry served as the assistant general manager for the Seattle SuperSonics (now Oklahoma City Thunder) for one season (200708).[3] He was part of the front office staff that drafted Kevin Durant to the Sonics/Thunder in the first round with the second overall pick. He then returned to the Pistons to become vice president of basketball operations from 2008 to 2012.[2]

On June 25, 2012, Perry was hired by Orlando Magic General Manager Rob Hennigan to become Hennigan's vice president and assistant general manager.[1] ESPN basketball analyst and former NBA player Chauncey Billups spoke highly of Perry as the assistant General Manager of the Magic, saying, "I love Scott Perry in the front office."[4][5]

In his time in Orlando, Perry helped draft Victor Oladipo (2013), Aaron Gordon and Elfrid Payton (2014), and Mario Hezonja (2015) in Orlando.

On April 21, 2017 Perry was hired to be the Executive Vice President of Basketball Operations for the Sacramento Kings.
At least he has experience.  
Italianju : 7/13/2017 4:10 pm : link
Don't really love what ORL has done but like what SAC has done this offseason. Again he has experience so that's good. And it's not houston.
so he's been with the Kings  
Enzo : 7/13/2017 4:10 pm : link
for 3 months and now he wants to come HERE? Sounds like he'll fit right in at MSG.
Interesting connection to Dumars  
Chris684 : 7/13/2017 4:10 pm : link
who was rumored earlier in the search because obviously Isiah Thomas's fingerprints are still all over this franchise.
Looks  
DanMetroMan : 7/13/2017 4:10 pm : link
like most of his resume is based on orlando, only joined sac in April.

His dad was the first black assistant coach in NFL history
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DanMetroMan : 7/13/2017 4:12 pm : link
The Kings hired Perry, who has 17 NBA seasons of front office experience with the Detroit Pistons, Seattle SuperSonics and Orlando Magic, on April 21. The former Wayne State guard previously served as vice president with the Pistons for four seasons and with the Magic for the past five before being relieved of his duties in April. The former Eastern Kentucky head basketball coach was in the Pistons front office when they advanced to six consecutive Eastern Conference finals and won an NBA championship in 2004. Perry also served as the SuperSonics assistant general manager during the 2007-08 season and was on the staff that drafted Kevin Durant second overall in 2007.

While Divac remains in his role as general manager, Perry will have a strong influence on basketball personnel decisions. The first major task for Perry with the Kings will be the heralded 2017 NBA draft. This draft is expected to be one of the best in years, with such prospects as Washington guard Markelle Fultz, Kentucky guard DeAaron Fox, UCLA guard Lonzo Ball and Kansas swingman Josh Jackson.

This is a very promising draft. There could be some very good young talent in this draft. But as the case is with many drafts, so much of it depends on where certain players end up and how they fit in their respective environment to maximize their growth and development, Perry said.

Its complicated, but the Kings will likely have two lottery selections in the NBA draft on June 22. Sacramento has its own pick with the eighth-best odds for the first selection at 2.8 percent, but if the selection is higher than the Philadelphia 76ers, then the latter has the right to swap per a past trade. The Kings also have the New Orleans Pelicans selection via the Cousins trade if its outside the top three protected picks.
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While I don't want either pick protected,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/13/2017 4:12 pm : link
I would be happy with a deal netting 2 first round picks and no long term deal outside of Teletovic.
Kings  
DanMetroMan : 7/13/2017 4:16 pm : link
Fox, Jackson, Giles (lottery ticket), Mason III, great draft. Hill contract was a value addition. Not sure how much was Perry but the Kings off-season has been very solid.
GM  
TyreeHelmet : 7/13/2017 4:17 pm : link
Perry is well regarded around the league from what I've heard. But he just got to Sacramento. Pretty strange move but I guess because it's a promotion he would be able to leave. It still blows having Mills on top though. Rumors were Masaii, Presti, Griffin and now this?

I know someone who use to work for the Knicks. He described Houston's reputation as pretty poor. Was not impressive at all in his basketball acumen. His words were a lot harsher but I'll leave it at that. As others have mentioned, look how long he's worked there and never got a sniff for an interview with another team. I mean Mark Hughes, who is seemingly under Houston on the power tree, has garnered interest and interviews from other teams. Tells you everything.

Can't Houston just join LJ and Starks as "ambassadors" for the Knicks?
It honestly doesn't even matter  
Keith : 7/13/2017 4:22 pm : link
because Dolan will still have his boys doing his thing. Whoever we name as GM does not matter.
It's a clear  
Jon in NYC : 7/13/2017 4:23 pm : link
promotion for Perry, so it's easy to see why he accepted.

The Kings had a great offseason. I'm excited about this.
Marc Spears knows the NBA and calls it straight  
capone : 7/13/2017 4:23 pm : link
and he thinks Scott Perry is a really smart guy, effusive in his praise for him
Another low-level guy who is glad to take the job because  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/13/2017 4:24 pm : link
It's a promotion and won't mind doing Mill's/Dolan's crony work.

Hope he's smart enough to use the job as a stepping stone.
Interview  
DanMetroMan : 7/13/2017 4:25 pm : link
with Scotty P
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RE: I can almost guarantee that Phil  
djm : 7/13/2017 4:26 pm : link
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was undermined and he wasn't able to follow his vision. Nobody ever is when it comes to the Knicks. It's a mess.

Don't feel bad for Phil though, he was paid a billion dollars to be the fall guy.


Starting to think the same thing. The pattern is undeniable. Good basketball players and minds come to MSG to die. Not saying Phil was ever a great exec or GM but the guy knows NBA hoops. Don't tell me he doesn't know how to build a winner. Yet he comes here and turns into a fucking cranky pumpkin.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

Nuke it from orbit. Tell KP to go swimming in Latvia for a week and then napalm and nuke that fucking place.
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djm : 7/13/2017 4:27 pm : link
In comment 13527419 Deej said:
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was undermined and he wasn't able to follow his vision. Nobody ever is when it comes to the Knicks. It's a mess.

Don't feel bad for Phil though, he was paid a billion dollars to be the fall guy.



I dont think he was undermined. Just a guess though. I think Rosen or another crony would have leaked that. They may do so now, but at this point I'd consider it just opportunistic spin.


language in the contract probably issued a gag order. No former GM or coach ever blasts Dolan. Never.
A GM in this FO  
andrew_nyg : 7/13/2017 4:32 pm : link
is nothing more than a glorified scout.

Until they sweep out from Mills on down and replace him with the likes of a Griffin or a Dumars, or a Bird...they will remain a very bad joke across all of professional sports.

New York being the mecca of Basketball should dictate that the league intervene to have a properly run organization in this city!
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DanMetroMan : 7/13/2017 4:35 pm : link
Sports News‏ @JSports_ent 5m5 minutes ago
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Melo trade update: despite thoughts Ryan Anderson is the hold up. I'm told the teams are trying to find a home for big man Myers Leonard.
Tell portland to throw in a 1st  
Keith : 7/13/2017 4:39 pm : link
and I'd take him.
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Mike in NJ : 7/13/2017 4:40 pm : link
In comment 13527534 DanMetroMan said:
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Sports News‏ @JSports_ent 5m5 minutes ago
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Melo trade update: despite thoughts Ryan Anderson is the hold up. I'm told the teams are trying to find a home for big man Myers Leonard.


Well, if true, that at least relieves me a bit in that it shows we are resistant to bringing Leonard here.
Wish I was joking about this  
Jon in NYC : 7/13/2017 4:43 pm : link
but my co-workers, brother's friend knows Melo agent. And he's telling people the deal is done.

You heard it here first.
Shows  
DanMetroMan : 7/13/2017 4:46 pm : link
how much Leonard sucks. His pure $$ isn't even that high but the money in relation to his sucking ratio is sky high.
Scott Perry's first day on the job:  
Enzo : 7/13/2017 4:50 pm : link
"who the fuck is Ron Baker?"
Fatman  
Elite Mobster #32 : 7/13/2017 4:51 pm : link
"totes the party line?" who talks like this ?

Just joking with you Fatman!

Why are they trying to force this trade for Carmelo ?
Are the Knicks are willing to settle for other teams spare parts.
We need a superior scorer for Carmelo, Or No Deal !!

If that is not available , its not a fair trade.
Carmelo has recently had a 62 Point game, maybe he can do it again.

Phil is gone now, he created serious tension and traded away players who have been active, in the Playoffs and Championships with other teams.

Lets play this season with what we have and continue to make adjustments.
So is Perry  
Phil in LA : 7/13/2017 4:51 pm : link
The new GM the other teams were alleging?
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Anakim : 7/13/2017 4:52 pm : link
Chris Broussard‏Verified account @Chris_Broussard
If Knicks hire Scott Perry as GM it'd be one of their smartest moves in a long time. Well respected with a great eye for talent
RE: So is Perry  
Anakim : 7/13/2017 4:54 pm : link
In comment 13527551 Phil in LA said:
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The new GM the other teams were alleging?


David Aldridge‏Verified account @daldridgetnt
Deal between Kings VP Scott Perry & Knicks for vacant NY GM gig is not done but heading that way. Perry one of most respected execs in game.
Correction:  
Keith : 7/13/2017 4:55 pm : link
WAS one of the most respected execs in the game. Career suicide!
Lets say we do hire this guy,  
Keith : 7/13/2017 4:56 pm : link
would he have to sign off on any Melo deal?
Enzo  
Italianju : 7/13/2017 4:57 pm : link
I just lol'd at my desk got some odd looks.
RE: Lets say we do hire this guy,  
Jon in NYC : 7/13/2017 4:57 pm : link
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would he have to sign off on any Melo deal?


I'm sure he knows about any deal.
Another of Dans guys?  
Keith : 7/13/2017 4:58 pm : link


While CSKA Moscow made contact with Sergio Rodriguez in order to lure him back to Europe, El Chacho wants to stay in the NBA and he is negotiating a new three-year deal with the Sixers.



4 hours ago C via EuroHoops.net




The two sides are near a deal, Rodriguez is expected to get around $4 million per season, which is almost a raise compared to his initial $8 million contract for the 2016-17 season. Almost half of those money went to Real Madrid for the buy out of the player and now the Spanish point guard is going to get a multiyear deal without having any other financial obligiation to the Spanish powerhouse.
Good  
Jon in NYC : 7/13/2017 5:04 pm : link
news:

@sam_amick 58s58 seconds ago
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Update on Scott Perry situation: Kings seeking cash compensation in exchange for his exit to NY to become GM. Working through process now

We have that.

This sounds like a really good move on paper
Kings  
DanMetroMan : 7/13/2017 5:04 pm : link
want cash to let Perry go, sounds like it's all but done.
RE: Lets say we do hire this guy,  
nygiants16 : 7/13/2017 5:04 pm : link
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would he have to sign off on any Melo deal?


i am sure that was part of their meeting today
3/12  
Enzo : 7/13/2017 5:05 pm : link
for Sergio is good value.
RE: Another of Dans guys?  
DanMetroMan : 7/13/2017 5:07 pm : link
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While CSKA Moscow made contact with Sergio Rodriguez in order to lure him back to Europe, El Chacho wants to stay in the NBA and he is negotiating a new three-year deal with the Sixers.



4 hours ago C via EuroHoops.net




The two sides are near a deal, Rodriguez is expected to get around $4 million per season, which is almost a raise compared to his initial $8 million contract for the 2016-17 season. Almost half of those money went to Real Madrid for the buy out of the player and now the Spanish point guard is going to get a multiyear deal without having any other financial obligiation to the Spanish powerhouse.


Yup. Lost Caruso and Sergio the same day and Rondo apparently "in talks" with the Pelicans.

We are down to Lawson, Deron, Jennings, Rose
RE: Lets say we do hire this guy,  
Enzo : 7/13/2017 5:07 pm : link
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would he have to sign off on any Melo deal?

you would think, but they just dropped $71 million on a shooting guard they didn't need while they were talking to Griffin. Nothing would shock me at this point.
"We are down to Lawson, Deron, Jennings, Rose"  
Enzo : 7/13/2017 5:10 pm : link
out of those 4 I take Jennings and I don't think twice.

That's  
DanMetroMan : 7/13/2017 5:10 pm : link
how garbage Derrick Rose is. He's still available with the likes of Deron Williams, Ty Lawson, Brandon Jennings. He's met with 2 teams, one of which already passed.
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Jon in NYC : 7/13/2017 5:10 pm : link
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out of those 4 I take Jennings and I don't think twice.


Out of those 4 I take none and lose a shitload of games with Ron Baker
Wow, we're actually doing something intelligent?  
bceagle05 : 7/13/2017 5:13 pm : link
I'll be damned.
Bucks  
DanMetroMan : 7/13/2017 5:14 pm : link
"holding off" for now on Derrick Rose and now eyeing Ian Clark. That's the perceived value of Derrick Rose.
RE: That's  
Enzo : 7/13/2017 5:16 pm : link
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how garbage Derrick Rose is. He's still available with the likes of Deron Williams, Ty Lawson, Brandon Jennings. He's met with 2 teams, one of which already passed.

it's almost as if those of us who trashed him all last season actually were right about him!
Begley  
DanMetroMan : 7/13/2017 5:16 pm : link
Perry was hired only three months ago as the front office's No. 2 to Kings GM Vlade Divac. That took place days after Perry was dismissed as the Orlando Magic's assistant GM.

Perry played a part in selecting Kentucky point guard De'Aaron Fox with the No. 5 overall pick and making a draft-day trade to move back and draft twice more in the first round, selecting North Carolina's Justin Jackson.

In free agency, the Kings signed veterans George Hill, Vince Carter and Zach Randolph.

Perry has a front-office history that includes stops in Seattle, Oklahoma City, Detroit, Orlando and Sacramento. He was part of helping GM Joe Dumars build an NBA champion and perennial contender with the Pistons.
RE: RE: Another of Dans guys?  
TyreeHelmet : 7/13/2017 5:18 pm : link
In comment 13527576 DanMetroMan said:
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While CSKA Moscow made contact with Sergio Rodriguez in order to lure him back to Europe, El Chacho wants to stay in the NBA and he is negotiating a new three-year deal with the Sixers.



4 hours ago C via EuroHoops.net




The two sides are near a deal, Rodriguez is expected to get around $4 million per season, which is almost a raise compared to his initial $8 million contract for the 2016-17 season. Almost half of those money went to Real Madrid for the buy out of the player and now the Spanish point guard is going to get a multiyear deal without having any other financial obligiation to the Spanish powerhouse.



Yup. Lost Caruso and Sergio the same day and Rondo apparently "in talks" with the Pelicans.

We are down to Lawson, Deron, Jennings, Rose


So the Knicks could have gotten Sergio ( vet pass first PG), Ian Clark ( young guy with upside) and Justin Holiday for less money and years then what Hardaway got. While leaving Baker as a restricted free agent.

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Enzo : 7/13/2017 5:18 pm : link
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out of those 4 I take Jennings and I don't think twice.

Out of those 4 I take none and lose a shitload of games with Ron Baker

you lose with Jennings too thanks to his awful defense - only he showed the ball will move when he's running PG, which will help KP, Wily, etc. develop on offense.
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Jon in NYC : 7/13/2017 5:19 pm : link
In comment 13527594 Enzo said:
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In comment 13527583 Jon in NYC said:


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out of those 4 I take Jennings and I don't think twice.

Out of those 4 I take none and lose a shitload of games with Ron Baker


you lose with Jennings too thanks to his awful defense - only he showed the ball will move when he's running PG, which will help KP, Wily, etc. develop on offense.


Good point. He's also super entertaining.
Pelicans  
DanMetroMan : 7/13/2017 5:20 pm : link
think they will land Rondo. Sent a "team" to visit him at home, he and Cousins are apparently close.
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