1- The Knicks working to hire Scott Perry from the Kings. The deal is NOT yet completed (pending $$$ compensation talks with the Kings per Woj) "Everyone" is praising the move. Perry is considered a high quality person with 17 years of experience and credited with the Kings off-season (which most people are praising).
2- The Knicks are pausing talks with the Rockets and Cavs and may try and convince him to "want" to stay
3- Rondo in talks with the Pelicans
4- Not Knicks related but Lonzo continues to blow people away, DSJ as well.
5-Sergio Rodriguez close to heading back to Europe
Link - ( New Window )
It's hard to argue that Phil didn't make this pick with the triangle in mind. He clearly admired the fundamentals of Euro players and wasn't looking for a "triple double crazy athlete".
Again, I never said right now. Can you all stop putting words in my mouth?
you said "He's got a unique blend of talents." If ball-handling, quickness, foot speed, and overall athleticism aren't among them...that doesn't leave much. Certain things will obviously improve if he puts in the time (eg jumper) - but based on what I'm reading the guy seems more like a small wing than a big guard. And a lot of the projecting with this guy has more to do with intangibles instead of measurables. Hope I'm wrong.
Scott Perry has agreed to a five-year contract to become New York's general manager, league sources tell ESPN.
The Knicks are slated to get the worst 2 of Orlando's, Cleveland's, and Houston's 2nd rounders in 2019. Kings will get the best of those two
2nd rounder in 2019 as compensation to Sacto
Whatever. It's laughable and insane that you all have the book written on an 18 year old kid. I'm sorry but you're nuts to proclaim ceilings and potentials and top 10 this or that at this stage. That's it i'm done.
Done.
Link - ( New Window )
New York has been searching for a GM who won't push for an overhaul of the front-office staff, league sources said, as well as an executive who can coexist with Mills, who will have ultimate authority.
New York has been searching for a GM who won't push for an overhaul of the front-office staff, league sources said, as well as an executive who can coexist with Mills, who will have ultimate authority.
I figured this was the case. Mills was offering to let the GM "basically" be in charge. Stuff gets run past Mills but he's not gonna veto or dictate things except in extreme circumstances. The bigger the star or more money at issue, the more Mills buy in there needs to be. Just my guess. And who knows if Mills wont then meddle anyway.
Nice.
A lot of cooks in the kitchen, some of which are long-timers who are the eyes and ears of the owner, so he can continue to pretend that he's now hands-off.
Quote:
I hate getting into all these labels. Franchise player and great player and max player...whatever. Frenchy has a chance to be the floor general this franchise has been looking for since Walt Frazier. I want a floor general. A guy that defends and makes the team go. Call that what you will but Frenchy has a good chance to be a legit PG. And yes, NYC will eat that up. I remember when Mark Jackson set this town on fire. Frenchy could be even better.
I don't care about Franchise players. I want a great PG. An underrated PG. Gimme that over the Marbury types any day of the week.
Walt Frazier? If Frank had the potential to be Walt Frazier he would have been the first pick in the draft. "Intangibles and leadership" is nice but talent wins in the NBA. Outside of his length, what does Frank do better than DSJ, Monk or Mitchell? No one describes him as this raw explosive athlete.
I get most people don't like Marbury but he was an awesome nba talent. If Frank ever averages 20 and 9, that pick is a home run. But is anyone projecting that for him? Sure seems like his potential is more of a role player. I would have rather swung for the fences with DSJ, Monk or Mitchell. I hope I'm wrong though.
Well, Walt Frazier had the potential of Walt Frazier and he wasn't the first pick in the NBA draft.
Before my time too but I know he dealt with bad foot fractures and injuries they struggled to solve/heal late in his career. Also sounds like it ended pretty messy with the Knicks. They paid a portion of salary to Cleveland and really wanted him gone.
A lot of cooks in the kitchen, some of which are long-timers who are the eyes and ears of the owner, so he can continue to pretend that he's now hands-off.
Now Mills has a fall guy if/when things go south.
A lot of cooks in the kitchen, some of which are long-timers who are the eyes and ears of the owner, so he can continue to pretend that he's now hands-off.
Where does this place exist in professional sports where the owner lets major things happen with no input? Every single person in this particular sport who has "final say on personnel matters" answers to the owner at some point.
I'm not saying you in particular, but people can't have it both ways... bitching about the owner doing a show during the draft (for example), then saying he's pretending to be hands-off. If they pick a coach or trade a major player, the owner of EVERY team is going to be involved. However, he's not picking between Dennis Smith Jr. and Frank Ntilikina.
Hardaway contract day looks worse every passing day. Could have come away with Simmons, Clark and either Sergio or Rondo all for less years than what Hardaway got.
Why not take multiple fliers and land a vet PG?
I may eat my words on this, but I think he's going to fade into relative anonymity. Role players always get too much hype on great teams.
Magic have some interesting long athletes. It's a shame what their old GM did in an effort to save his job.
So basically Perry can draft whoever he wants in the 2nd round
In comment 13528410 DanMetroMan said:
New York has been searching for a GM who won't push for an overhaul of the front-office staff, league sources said, as well as an executive who can coexist with Mills, who will have ultimate authority.
Link - ( New Window )
Not saying anyone here is wrong, just a matter of insufficient evidence.
Frank has a chance to be a solid NBA player, he has absolutely no chance of being a 'superstar'
Quote:
Frank has a chance to be a solid NBA player, he has absolutely no chance of being a 'superstar'
They can't say it. I am swinging for the fences with Frank. I don't necessarily think it's a safe pick at all. I wouldn't like it if it was safe.
Quote:
is the structure. So not getting to clean house is big and suggests more of the same.
A lot of cooks in the kitchen, some of which are long-timers who are the eyes and ears of the owner, so he can continue to pretend that he's now hands-off.
Where does this place exist in professional sports where the owner lets major things happen with no input? Every single person in this particular sport who has "final say on personnel matters" answers to the owner at some point.
I'm not saying you in particular, but people can't have it both ways... bitching about the owner doing a show during the draft (for example), then saying he's pretending to be hands-off. If they pick a coach or trade a major player, the owner of EVERY team is going to be involved. However, he's not picking between Dennis Smith Jr. and Frank Ntilikina.
When I say hands-off, I don't mean input on big money moves. That's part of sports.
Not hiring a general manager because you wouldn't allow him to decide who works in the front office he's allegedly going to be in charge of, that's what I'm talking about. Continuing to go forward with this bizarre, secretive, and wildly ineffective organizational structure that holds over the same cast of known-owner friendly cronies through failed regime after failed regime and then having the balls to conduct business in a totally adversarial relationship with the media, allowing your interim GM to spend 30 million dollars more than the bidding price for a middling free agent and then not even taking questions on why such a thing would be allowed to happen, that's what I'm talking about. Picking up Phil Jackson's option years when he didn't do anything to deserve it, then firing him two weeks later after being allowed to determine the draft pick, that's what I'm talking about.
But that may just be wishful thinking ...
When I say hands-off, I don't mean input on big money moves. That's part of sports.
Not hiring a general manager because you wouldn't allow him to decide who works in the front office he's allegedly going to be in charge of, that's what I'm talking about. Continuing to go forward with this bizarre, secretive, and wildly ineffective organizational structure that holds over the same cast of known-owner friendly cronies through failed regime after failed regime and then having the balls to conduct business in a totally adversarial relationship with the media, allowing your interim GM to spend 30 million dollars more than the bidding price for a middling free agent and then not even taking questions on why such a thing would be allowed to happen, that's what I'm talking about. Picking up Phil Jackson's option years when he didn't do anything to deserve it, then firing him two weeks later after being allowed to determine the draft pick, that's what I'm talking about.
I don't give a rat's ass about their relationship with the media. The "known owner cronies" thing doesn't matter because those guys haven't been making the decisions until now. They were all beneath Phil in the pecking order. Mills was close to Isiah, but was still beneath him in the pecking order. There's no evidence they were calling shots instead of Donnie Walsh (although Dolan commandeered the Melo trade). What's the purpose of complaining about Allan Houston when he had no power? Mills may have been a "Dolan spy", but with the exception of not being able to hire Rambis full-time, Phil got to do whatever the fuck he wanted anyway. The cronies weren't the ones causing issues with Melo or annoying KP. The cronies didn't decide to draft Jordan Hill or Michael Sweetney. The cronies didn't have the authority to give STAT his awful contract. IMO, that's something people complain about with this franchise because they're going to complain about everything.
David Griffin wouldn't do the job with those restrictions, but there are plenty of people who will. It didn't take long to find a guy who would. And Griffin isn't exactly Red Auerbach. There are/were plenty of coaches willing to do the job with Phil standing over their shoulder.
ITA that the new person should've made the decision on THJ and it would've been better to fire Phil before the draft. The problem is the first of the two things that led to Phil's dismissal reached DEFCON 1 just a few days before the draft while the second and most publicly used reason for the dismissal happened after the draft (Melo buy-out). I hated the THJ signing. I wouldn't have drafted Frank either. At this point, I feel like people are just complaining about anything this team does now regardless of it's importance.
I can't defend the job PJ did, but I also can't say one thing nice about Dolan, who has brought shit to the team for two decades: from the Layden era, to IT's reign, to his blowing of the Melo trade when he undercut Walsh, to the Jackson years. The man's a paranoid and narcissistic control freak who plays with his toy however he wants, and only listens to his yes men.
Quote:
When I say hands-off, I don't mean input on big money moves. That's part of sports.
Not hiring a general manager because you wouldn't allow him to decide who works in the front office he's allegedly going to be in charge of, that's what I'm talking about. Continuing to go forward with this bizarre, secretive, and wildly ineffective organizational structure that holds over the same cast of known-owner friendly cronies through failed regime after failed regime and then having the balls to conduct business in a totally adversarial relationship with the media, allowing your interim GM to spend 30 million dollars more than the bidding price for a middling free agent and then not even taking questions on why such a thing would be allowed to happen, that's what I'm talking about. Picking up Phil Jackson's option years when he didn't do anything to deserve it, then firing him two weeks later after being allowed to determine the draft pick, that's what I'm talking about.
I don't give a rat's ass about their relationship with the media. The "known owner cronies" thing doesn't matter because those guys haven't been making the decisions until now. They were all beneath Phil in the pecking order. Mills was close to Isiah, but was still beneath him in the pecking order. There's no evidence they were calling shots instead of Donnie Walsh (although Dolan commandeered the Melo trade). What's the purpose of complaining about Allan Houston when he had no power? Mills may have been a "Dolan spy", but with the exception of not being able to hire Rambis full-time, Phil got to do whatever the fuck he wanted anyway. The cronies weren't the ones causing issues with Melo or annoying KP. The cronies didn't decide to draft Jordan Hill or Michael Sweetney. The cronies didn't have the authority to give STAT his awful contract. IMO, that's something people complain about with this franchise because they're going to complain about everything.
David Griffin wouldn't do the job with those restrictions, but there are plenty of people who will. It didn't take long to find a guy who would. And Griffin isn't exactly Red Auerbach. There are/were plenty of coaches willing to do the job with Phil standing over their shoulder.
ITA that the new person should've made the decision on THJ and it would've been better to fire Phil before the draft. The problem is the first of the two things that led to Phil's dismissal reached DEFCON 1 just a few days before the draft while the second and most publicly used reason for the dismissal happened after the draft (Melo buy-out). I hated the THJ signing. I wouldn't have drafted Frank either. At this point, I feel like people are just complaining about anything this team does now regardless of it's importance.
We don't know who's making decisions or who has input in what. I'm not sure why you seem so confident to know all that, but nobody else can say with any certainty exactly what Steve Mills or Allan Houston's roles are or their qualification are to be untouchable. And the media thing matters in the sense that this team bumbles from one fuck up to the next without ever even having to answer a single question about anything.
The fact that there's tons of holdovers from years of failure and strong resistance to any kind of staffing change is pretty obviously a poor way to go about business. Even the Giants, as patiently conservative as they are, don't keep running into a wall for two decades. They don't have the credibility to hire an accomplished GM and tell him he cannot have his own staff.
Free agent Rajon Rondo has reached agreement on a one-year deal with the New Orleans Pelicans, league sources tell The Vertical
Exhibit A: Chasson Randle
Free agent Rajon Rondo has reached agreement on a one-year deal with the New Orleans Pelicans, league sources tell The Vertical
getting closer and closer to a Brandon Jennings reunion.
But I'm getting nervous that Rose is still out there.