NFT: Knicks Chat 7/14/2017- One Stop Shopping

at this ppint almost rather just throw ntlikina to the fire...

i dont think rose is taking vet minimum

Screw that guy.

He's always been a shoot first point guard, but he's lost his explosion since his Achilles injury. He won't be a Knick.

Nt

Lots of young guys are out there for the taking:

Jordan Mickey (who I REALLY hope we claim), Michael Gbinije, Georges Niang, Rakeem Christmas, Stephen Zimmerman (who I'd MUCH rather have than Marshall Plumlee)...

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In comment 13528908 Anakim said:

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*Or Tyler Ennis


I think Ennis or Burke would be better at this point than Brandon Knight, Derrick Rose, Deron Williams, Brandon Jennings, etc.

Perry isn't dumb enough to bring in Rose. We need someone who's going to get KP involved early and often. Too bad we could not land Rubio, he would have been a perfect fit

1. Would Melo waive his NTC tp play with Dame/CJ and no one else? I highly doubt it.

2. If the goal is to get younger, could they get a haul like Crabbe, Harkless, Vonleh and Collins for Melo and O'Quinn?

back Leonard if they added Collins.

Harkless, Leonard, Collins for Melo?

In comment 13528853 Anakim said:

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Shams Charania‏Verified account @ShamsCharania Free agent Rajon Rondo has reached agreement on a one-year deal with the New Orleans Pelicans, league sources tell The Vertical

That to me is one of the more interesting moves this offseason.

But to me, there is no doubt it was the correct pick. I just watched two highlight videos, one of Frank, and one if Smith Jr.-while Smith I'd an incedible athlete, it's also clear that he us basically another Stephon Marbury. We all know how well that worked out for the Knicks. I am so glad Frank was the pick-the Knicks need a pg of the future who will play D, hit three's, and will pass the ball. Smith can score and shoot, but no way in hell does he pass enough, or play good defense. At least Phil got us Porzingus and Frank, two players who I believe will eventually help bring a championship to New York.

Assuming Melo magically agrees to go to Portland b cause Knicks aren't satisfied with Houston or Cleveland offers. knowing the Knicks cap space is disastrous for the next 3-4 years, would you make this trade:

Portland gets:
Melo
Courtney Lee

Knicks get:
2019 unprotected #1st Rd
2021 unprotected 1sr Rd
2019 2nd Rd from Lakers
Moe Harkless
Myles Leonard
Evan Turner

Obviously 2 of the 3 players they are getting are worthless, but the contracts expire at same time as Noah and Lance Thomas. Additionally assuming Portland will be good in 2018, Melo def leaves after 2018 so prob not as good in 2019 so pick could be better lottery pick. knicks can obviously make the future picks or they can be used with any of these terrible expiring contracts in 2019 to package for a team that is starting a rebuild that has a talented player locked in for a few years.

I know big hypothetical, but I'm assuming Portland would at least consider this offer to get rid of all of the awful contracts and pick up 2 pretty good pieces to add to a pretty talented team. With Melo and Courtney Lee I'm assuming Portland is a top 5 in the west?

I think best team if it were feasible would be to get traded to New Orleans
Roll out a lineup of

Rondo
Holiday
Melo
Davis
Cousins

I Like that better than

Paul
Harden
Ariza
Melo
Capella

But Melo to New Orleans has to be absolutely impossible. Aren't they like $14 Million over the cap BEFORE signing Rondo?

Not happening

In comment 13529300 BigBlueShock said:

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But Melo to New Orleans has to be absolutely impossible. Aren't they like $14 Million over the cap BEFORE signing Rondo? Not happening

Oh I know it wouldn't happen. I don't think they have anything we'd want anyway. That team has massive boom or bust potential though. Just think it'd be an awesome potential lineup to watch

In comment 13528936 Anakim said:

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In comment 13528908 Anakim said: Quote: . *Or Tyler Ennis I think Ennis or Burke would be better at this point than Brandon Knight, Derrick Rose, Deron Williams, Brandon Jennings, etc.

Add Demetrius Jackson to that list

problem is all the players are crap and they dont have anything else to offer.

As for that POR deal i dont trust that those picks would be anywhere near good enough to take on 2 horrible contracts and a descent one. They would need to give way more.