Might as well been a room full of Klansman. All that's different is the uniform.
I've always been of the belief that not ALL... or even most... cops are bad. But seeing something like this... happening in a room full of them at a party... this shakes that belief some.
Then some question why the slogan 'Black Lives Matter'. You wonder why? This is why. But I'm sure there's SOME excuse for it that someone will give me.
This is absolutely disgusting. And to see some guys walking out smiling... like they're at a fucking wedding reception... unbelievable.
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The bad apple spoils the bunch. That bunch was spoiled, eh?
Bone- I wouldn't let it get to you. People are idiots and assholes and follow more than they lead.
I do not doubt that there are people like this around the country.
On the other hand, people make money off of creating hysteria and faking things to get peoples blood to boil over.
This link is probably blood boiling "Fake News" propaganda that someone is making money off of. The website seems too slanted.
FWIW, I have cop friends who are nothing like that. One of them, a retired Irish MTA detective, is now an adjunct Professor of African American studies. After the Eric Garner incident, I asked him if police racism today was better or worse than when he started, back in the late 80's. He said - "Night and Day, not even close - back then, you still had the old guard, Vietnam Vets - horribly racist. These kids today, they just wanna hide in the car and collect a paycheck. Still racism, but nothing close to what it was back in the Koch/Dinkins days".
However, this is a slanted site. The guys in the despicable t shirts are wearing long sleeves, jeans and gloves. So it's not a recent picture seeing how we have been in a heat wave in the north east.
Sites like this seem like Infowars or Breitbart.
Definitely not condoning the shirts or their disgraceful actions. I just question the integrity of the site.
However, this is a slanted site. The guys in the despicable t shirts are wearing long sleeves, jeans and gloves. So it's not a recent picture seeing how we have been in a heat wave in the north east.
Sites like this seem like Infowars or Breitbart.
Definitely not condoning the shirts or their disgraceful actions. I just question the integrity of the site.
Plus the xmas wreath on the building in the back.
Looks like early December
A pox on both their houses.
A pox on both their houses.
I was thinking the same thing.
And yet I'm not seeing the same outrage from those that were outraged over some socks (that were almost as offensive).
Weird huh?
But since he was a 'thug' his death should be celebrated?
Yeah... that makes sense.
I just want to see the same thing you are.
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Every group has worthless pieces of shit that do stupid and/or horrific things. Assholes hiding behind slogans or blaming misdeeds of others as an excuse for horrid behavior.
"Can't we all just get along" has never been more valid than it is today in this fucked up society.
I just want to see the same thing you are.
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Yes sir it is.
And sorry to anyone (robbieballs) who had issues with the link. I tested it a few times and it worked each time for me.
BTW, this story is from December 2014, so seems a little late to be getting up-in-arms about it...
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Exactly.
Everybody was getting rowdy around Christmas, weren't they?
BTW, this story is from December 2014, so seems a little late to be getting up-in-arms about it... LAPD investigates Michael Brown parody at retired cop's party - ( New Window )
Agree with your first paragraph... not so much with your second.
This is the first I've seen or heard about this. So the fact that it happened almost two and half years ago means there should be no outrage today when the video goes public?
Interesting thought process there.
So if I fucked your wife of 10 years, 5 years ago, and you found out about it today... you'd say 'Well... that happened five years ago... so no need to get upset about it now.'. For some reason I kind of doubt it.
The grinning shitheads in the "I Can Breathe" shirts are even more disgusting.
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is this the video? I don't see one on the page you linked.
I just want to see the same thing you are.
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Yes sir it is.
And sorry to anyone (robbieballs) who had issues with the link. I tested it a few times and it worked each time for me.
Yeah, not to the degree that Robbie did, but I had some technical issues with the link.
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because you don't like the allegation? Everything you don't like is "Fake news"? What if the LA Times reported it? Or the conservative Washington Times?
BTW, this story is from December 2014, so seems a little late to be getting up-in-arms about it... LAPD investigates Michael Brown parody at retired cop's party - ( New Window )
Agree with your first paragraph... not so much with your second.
This is the first I've seen or heard about this. So the fact that it happened almost two and half years ago means there should be no outrage today when the video goes public?
Interesting thought process there.
So if I fucked your wife of 10 years, 5 years ago, and you found out about it today... you'd say 'Well... that happened five years ago... so no need to get upset about it now.'. For some reason I kind of doubt it.
Yikes.
The grinning shitheads in the "I Can Breathe" shirts are even more disgusting.
Agree on both points.
The grinning shitheads in the "I Can Breathe" shirts are even more disgusting.
+1
The grinning shitheads in the "I Can Breathe" shirts are even more disgusting.
Well said Greg.
shirts are completely different, not saying I support them, but the part of the shirts that is missing from these pictures is "...because of NYPD". If you remember a lot of people wore "I can't breathe" shirts as a form of police brutality protest, and in the quote below you will see that list including Lebron James and President Obama applauded him for it.
when activism gets spread that far and wide it reaches a fever pitch and it feels like you are convicting all of the target group, so people who support the police felt compelled to show their support, so to counter the "I can't breathe" shirts they created the "I can breathe, because of NYPD" shirts.
I think it was a bad idea, and insensitive, but I don't believe the intent was to mock Garner or support police brutality, simply to say not all cops are bad.
I think that's the problem with a site like that, is they only want to highlight the poor taste, not the connect with the intent which for some people at least lessens, but doesn't excuse, the insensitivity.
there was also a guy in Indiana who created shirts that were similar and similarly distasteful that said:
The shirts, produced by Corporal Jason Barthel of the City of Mishawaka Police in Indiana, bear the slogan “Breathe Easy: Don’t break the law” and were sold for $7.95 online.
Mr. Barthel, who also owns and operates the South Bend Uniform Company, wrote on the company’s Facebook page that outrage sparked by the t-shirts was misplaced.
“For those upset, please understand when we use the slogan ‘Breathe Easy’ we are referring to knowing the police are there for you!” Mr. Barthel wrote.
“We are one people, one nation regardless of race, religion, creed or gender. We are all in this together. The police are here to protect and serve. 99.9 percent of us have the greater good in our hearts each time we strap on our uniforms and duty belts,” Mr. Barthel continued.
“We are all one people and this is by no means is a slam on Eric Garner or his family, God rest his soul. Lets all band together as AMERICANS regardless of our feelings and know we can and will be better! Thank you for your support.”
The “I can’t breathe” slogan has spread rapidly among protesters and several celebrities, including basketball star LeBron James.
In an interview published Friday, President Obama told People magazine that the basketball player “did the right thing” by wearing the shirt during warm-ups for a December 8 NBA game."
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Breathe in through the nose, out through the mouth...
Breathe in through the nose, out through the mouth...
In comment 13528451 T-Bone said:
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because you don't like the allegation? Everything you don't like is "Fake news"? What if the LA Times reported it? Or the conservative Washington Times?
BTW, this story is from December 2014, so seems a little late to be getting up-in-arms about it... LAPD investigates Michael Brown parody at retired cop's party - ( New Window )
Agree with your first paragraph... not so much with your second.
This is the first I've seen or heard about this. So the fact that it happened almost two and half years ago means there should be no outrage today when the video goes public?
Interesting thought process there.
So if I fucked your wife of 10 years, 5 years ago, and you found out about it today... you'd say 'Well... that happened five years ago... so no need to get upset about it now.'. For some reason I kind of doubt it.
The grinning shitheads in the "I Can Breathe" shirts are even more disgusting.
Precisely.
It's not like the kid went on a shooting spree and killed dozens of innocent people in the street or caused major heartache to anyone or group of people. This was a kid who made some bad choices and paid the ultimate price for those choices. To celebrate his death as if he was Hitler or Osama Bin Laden... just doesn't make any sense. And anyone trying to defend it doesn't make much more sense to me either.
BTW, this story is from December 2014, so seems a little late to be getting up-in-arms about it... LAPD investigates Michael Brown parody at retired cop's party - ( New Window )
In today's day and age you have to check sources. People can make real good videos with relative ease these days for the purpose of stirring the pot and making money from the stir.
That being said. Thank you for providing better sources. These guys are scumbags.
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In comment 13528447 Don Draper said:
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because you don't like the allegation? Everything you don't like is "Fake news"? What if the LA Times reported it? Or the conservative Washington Times?
BTW, this story is from December 2014, so seems a little late to be getting up-in-arms about it... LAPD investigates Michael Brown parody at retired cop's party - ( New Window )
Agree with your first paragraph... not so much with your second.
This is the first I've seen or heard about this. So the fact that it happened almost two and half years ago means there should be no outrage today when the video goes public?
Interesting thought process there.
So if I fucked your wife of 10 years, 5 years ago, and you found out about it today... you'd say 'Well... that happened five years ago... so no need to get upset about it now.'. For some reason I kind of doubt it.
Much better. Thank you.
And know that my 'wife' analogy above was purely hypothetical and was not meant to offend you, your wife (if you have one) or your family. I was simply trying to make a point.
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T-Bone - I sincerely believe it's your prerogative to get as angry as you like about whatever topics you like, regardless of when you think the video was released. Better?
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In comment 13528451 T-Bone said:
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In comment 13528447 Don Draper said:
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because you don't like the allegation? Everything you don't like is "Fake news"? What if the LA Times reported it? Or the conservative Washington Times?
BTW, this story is from December 2014, so seems a little late to be getting up-in-arms about it... LAPD investigates Michael Brown parody at retired cop's party - ( New Window )
Agree with your first paragraph... not so much with your second.
This is the first I've seen or heard about this. So the fact that it happened almost two and half years ago means there should be no outrage today when the video goes public?
Interesting thought process there.
So if I fucked your wife of 10 years, 5 years ago, and you found out about it today... you'd say 'Well... that happened five years ago... so no need to get upset about it now.'. For some reason I kind of doubt it.
Much better. Thank you.
And know that my 'wife' analogy above was purely hypothetical and was not meant to offend you, your wife (if you have one) or your family. I was simply trying to make a point.
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because you don't like the allegation? Everything you don't like is "Fake news"? What if the LA Times reported it? Or the conservative Washington Times?
BTW, this story is from December 2014, so seems a little late to be getting up-in-arms about it... LAPD investigates Michael Brown parody at retired cop's party - ( New Window )
Agree with your first paragraph... not so much with your second.
This is the first I've seen or heard about this. So the fact that it happened almost two and half years ago means there should be no outrage today when the video goes public?
Interesting thought process there.
So if I ........ you'd say 'Well... that happened five years ago... so no need to get upset about it now.'. For some reason I kind of doubt it.
T-Bone I have a lot of respect for you, and you have long ago proved to be undoubtedly classy so I contribute it to the heat of the topic, but I do think you could have made your point without being disrespectful to another posters family.
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because you don't like the allegation? Everything you don't like is "Fake news"? What if the LA Times reported it? Or the conservative Washington Times?
BTW, this story is from December 2014, so seems a little late to be getting up-in-arms about it... LAPD investigates Michael Brown parody at retired cop's party - ( New Window )
Agree with your first paragraph... not so much with your second.
This is the first I've seen or heard about this. So the fact that it happened almost two and half years ago means there should be no outrage today when the video goes public?
Interesting thought process there.
So if I ........ you'd say 'Well... that happened five years ago... so no need to get upset about it now.'. For some reason I kind of doubt it.
T-Bone I have a lot of respect for you, and you have long ago proved to be undoubtedly classy so I contribute it to the heat of the topic, but I do think you could have made your point without being disrespectful to another posters family.
Again, I was making a point and wasn't referring to his family. But even if he took it the correct way, I realized that the way it could've been perceived was wrong and yes, was said while I was still literally shaking about what I'd just posted (and a few of the comments on this thread). So I cleared up the intent of my post and apologized to him regardless.
Thanks though.
Would any self-respecting professional be caught dead at some event that mocks the killing of another human being?
How do you think cops in NY felt last week when one of their own was shot point blank in the head? You think something like that is easy to deal with and doesnt shake their beliefs?
Yea, I guess it's easy for you to look at an online video highlight of a group of asshole cops somewhere acting like idiots.
Probably harder for you to imagine that their job is real, life and death judgement every day. Responsibility for the lives of the general public and making it home to their own lives.
There are asshole people in all walks of life. You can protest whatever injustice you want to protest all day long. That's never changing that fact.
Would any self-respecting professional be caught dead at some event that mocks the killing of another human being?
Agree with part of your post, I wish the cops would police themselves (pun intended), every one of these incidents I feel like it's ten steps back for everyone one step forward. for every ten good things law enforcement does they get ignored or become irrelevant for everyone incidents like this or worse an incident like Garner's death.
but from the sounds of it the event was a retirement party for a retiring LAPD officer, I'm not sure the music selection was shared in advance or that every person in attendance was even paying attention to the singer or the words of the song. but that doesn't stop people from condemning them all or all police because of it.
No problem. You were right.
How do you think cops in NY felt last week when one of their own was shot point blank in the head? You think something like that is easy to deal with and doesnt shake their beliefs?
I'm curious. How come incidents like this aren't cited when it comes to shaking beliefs
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How do you think cops in NY felt last week when one of their own was shot point blank in the head? You think something like that is easy to deal with and doesnt shake their beliefs?
Yea, I guess it's easy for you to look at an online video highlight of a group of asshole cops somewhere acting like idiots.
Probably harder for you to imagine that their job is real, life and death judgement every day. Responsibility for the lives of the general public and making it home to their own lives.
There are asshole people in all walks of life. You can protest whatever injustice you want to protest all day long. That's never changing that fact.
Chris, a cop's job is hard, and there should be empathy from all parties towards all parties. The folks in this video are doing a little more than acting like idiots.
How do you think cops in NY felt last week when one of their own was shot point blank in the head? You think something like that is easy to deal with and doesnt shake their beliefs?
Yea, I guess it's easy for you to look at an online video highlight of a group of asshole cops somewhere acting like idiots.
Probably harder for you to imagine that their job is real, life and death judgement every day. Responsibility for the lives of the general public and making it home to their own lives.
There are asshole people in all walks of life. You can protest whatever injustice you want to protest all day long. That's never changing that fact.
I said it shakes my belief 'SOME'. Sorry... but seeing one, two or a few cops acting like assholes... understood. Seeing a fucking whole banquet hall enjoying a song about a man being killed... eh, that one's a little hard to swallow.
I bet those cops felt like shit. And if a video came up with some assholes celebrating and singing 'Yeah... that cop sat in the wrong car... and got shot in the head... and so she won't be going home tonight... cuz she's DEAD! LOL!' it would piss me off and I'm sure piss you off as well. And yet... when it's in reverse, you'd rather focus on the site it's posted on.
Why?
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How do you think cops in NY felt last week when one of their own was shot point blank in the head? You think something like that is easy to deal with and doesnt shake their beliefs?
I'm curious. How come incidents like this aren't cited when it comes to shaking beliefs Link - ( New Window )
I'll give you one possible explanation. I've talked to a few cops over the years and heard some interviews where the same thing gets said, domestic violence cases are a special kind of crazy. That about the only thing that scared the cops more was an active shooter situation.
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How do you think cops in NY felt last week when one of their own was shot point blank in the head? You think something like that is easy to deal with and doesnt shake their beliefs?
I'm curious. How come incidents like this aren't cited when it comes to shaking beliefs Link - ( New Window )
Semi - was that directed to me? If so, I'll be glad to share my opinion.