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NFT: Yankees at Red Sox: second half starts

Mike Graves : 7/14/2017 6:36 pm
No Frazier to start the second half smh

Tonight's @Yankees lineup vs. BOS:

Gardner 7
Sanchez 2
Judge 9
Holliday DH
Didi 6
Cooper 3
Ellsbury 8
Headley 5
Torreyes 4
P: Montgomery
Wow  
nygnyy274 : 7/14/2017 6:39 pm : link
Time and time again he sits either Gardner or Ells against a lefty but not tonight at least cooper is playing right away
RE: Wow  
mfsd : 7/14/2017 6:43 pm : link
In comment 13528570 nygnyy274 said:
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Time and time again he sits either Gardner or Ells against a lefty but not tonight at least cooper is playing right away


I'm guessing he trusts Gardy more than Frazier to handle LF and the monster at Fenway
Headley down to 7th  
Stu11 : 7/14/2017 6:50 pm : link
its a start. With Castr back tomorrow hopefully we can move him down even further, though Torreyes should be ahead of him rightnow.
For those with DTV  
Someguy1978 : 7/14/2017 7:12 pm : link
There is a MLB EI Free Preview on Directv tonite thru July 20th. Game is on channel 726.
Gardner  
Mike Graves : 7/14/2017 7:23 pm : link
Leads off the game with a walk and never even attempted to steal. It's mind boggling
Montgomery  
nygnyy274 : 7/14/2017 7:30 pm : link
Doesn't look sharp so far
RE: Gardner  
nygnyy274 : 7/14/2017 7:31 pm : link
In comment 13528613 Mike Graves said:
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Leads off the game with a walk and never even attempted to steal. It's mind boggling



It really frustrates me when that happens he is the fastest guy on the team you have your big hitters coming up to drive him in
RE: Montgomery  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/14/2017 7:34 pm : link
In comment 13528616 nygnyy274 said:
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Doesn't look sharp so far


He rarely does with Sanchez. IDK why they would start a big road trip ignoring one of the few things that worked the final month of the first half.
RE: RE: Montgomery  
Mike Graves : 7/14/2017 7:42 pm : link
In comment 13528620 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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In comment 13528616 nygnyy274 said:


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Doesn't look sharp so far



He rarely does with Sanchez. IDK why they would start a big road trip ignoring one of the few things that worked the final month of the first half.



Yes I agree Did a good job getting out of it
29 pitches, zero runs.  
Del Shofner : 7/14/2017 7:42 pm : link
OK but we'll be lucky to get 5 innings out of Monty.
RE: RE: Montgomery  
Del Shofner : 7/14/2017 7:44 pm : link
In comment 13528620 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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In comment 13528616 nygnyy274 said:


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Doesn't look sharp so far



He rarely does with Sanchez. IDK why they would start a big road trip ignoring one of the few things that worked the final month of the first half.


I have defended Romine here but look at it this way - Sanchez is an all-star, Holliday is back at DH and we just traded for a real 1B. Who sits for Romine, whose bat is that of a backup catcher?
Cooper's MLB debut is a flare out to second.  
Del Shofner : 7/14/2017 7:45 pm : link
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These guys gotta give Monty  
B in ALB : 7/14/2017 7:46 pm : link
a bit of a break in the dugout. Geezus. Take some pitches.
Eric Cooper  
B in ALB : 7/14/2017 7:48 pm : link
Is a fuckin bum.
RE: RE: RE: Montgomery  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/14/2017 7:57 pm : link
In comment 13528625 Del Shofner said:
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I have defended Romine here but look at it this way - Sanchez is an all-star, Holliday is back at DH and we just traded for a real 1B. Who sits for Romine, whose bat is that of a backup catcher?


ITA agree Sanchez should be starting the first day after the break, but why go with Montgomery if they weren't going to use the catcher they obviously think he performs better with? Might as well start Sevy or Tanaka.

We're not the manager, but they clearly see the same things we do and the same numbers otherwise Romine wouldn't have caught his last 7 games.
Man, Montgomery  
NYerInMA : 7/14/2017 8:01 pm : link
just can't hold that strike zone can he?
RE: Man, Montgomery  
Del Shofner : 7/14/2017 8:02 pm : link
In comment 13528636 NYerInMA said:
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just can't hold that strike zone can he?


Walks the #9 guy - can't do that.
Big K of Betts  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/14/2017 8:04 pm : link
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55 pitches, zero runs -  
Del Shofner : 7/14/2017 8:04 pm : link
you can't score on Monty, you can only hope he tires himself out!
shockey - another way to look at it is that both Sanchez and Monty  
Del Shofner : 7/14/2017 8:06 pm : link
are in the Yanks' long-term plans, and Romine not so much (though like I said, I like Romine). At what point do you just force Sanchez and Monty to start working together? If you look at this from next year's perspective, it doesn't strike me as crazy.
Headley and Toe getting things going  
Del Shofner : 7/14/2017 8:09 pm : link
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TOE reyes!  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/14/2017 8:11 pm : link
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Sanchez!  
Del Shofner : 7/14/2017 8:13 pm : link
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Sanchez!!!  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/14/2017 8:15 pm : link
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Oohhhh...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/14/2017 8:17 pm : link
that was a close one. Bases loaded.
No, it was a little lower than I thought  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/14/2017 8:17 pm : link
...
That sucked.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/14/2017 8:18 pm : link
...
And Mont finally snaps  
NYerInMA : 7/14/2017 8:26 pm : link
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Montgomery is homer heavy  
Kyle in NY : 7/14/2017 8:29 pm : link
Like seemingly all of our starters
You knew that was coming  
B in ALB : 7/14/2017 8:29 pm : link
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While I love our lineUp,  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/14/2017 8:31 pm : link
I absolutely hate our pitching (Not Monty, though), for the most part. Definitely job one in the off-season.
Ellsbury is a fuckin stiff  
B in ALB : 7/14/2017 8:38 pm : link
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Do I hear  
nygnyy274 : 7/14/2017 8:39 pm : link
Redsox fans chanting steroids when Arron Judge bats?!?!?!? Gee..that's the pot calling the kettle black!
You heard correctly.  
B in ALB : 7/14/2017 8:48 pm : link
Typical red Sox mouthbreathing.
Pomeranz  
MookGiants : 7/14/2017 9:07 pm : link
blows. Took them a few innings to get to him but it was only a matter of time.
Hell yeah  
Greg from LI : 7/14/2017 9:10 pm : link
GARY!!!!!  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/14/2017 9:10 pm : link
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RE: Montgomery is homer heavy  
Greg from LI : 7/14/2017 9:11 pm : link
In comment 13528656 Kyle in NY said:
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Like seemingly all of our starters


Have you looked at the rest of the league? It's the rabbit ball ERA, man.
eh ... Girardi should have started Romine  
Del Shofner : 7/14/2017 9:11 pm : link
per BBI.
Logan Morrison was unavailable for comment  
Greg from LI : 7/14/2017 9:11 pm : link
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Logan Morrison  
B in ALB : 7/14/2017 9:20 pm : link
Spent the all star break huffing keyboard cleaner outside a Racetrac convenience store.

"I feel like I'm walking on sunshine!"
Ellsbury batting 7th  
KingZ : 7/14/2017 9:27 pm : link
I would prefer Ellsbury scratched. Traded for a pitcher. Baby steps lol. Hopefully that happens before Hicks returns.
Binders with a very Binderesque  
B in ALB : 7/14/2017 9:28 pm : link
decision to play Jokeoby tonight over Red Thunder - especially against a lefty.

This screams a subtle hint from Cash coupled with the three ring.
I hate to say it,  
Photoguy : 7/14/2017 9:30 pm : link
but I don't think it's going to happen. The Yanks are stuck with him for the duration.
they aren't stuck with him  
MookGiants : 7/14/2017 9:37 pm : link
they can and should release him if no one wants to take him off their hands for 10 cents on the dollar.

The only thing they may be stuck is paying him, but paying him doesn't mean he has to be on the roster.
If the Sox can DFA Sandoval  
NYerInMA : 7/14/2017 9:37 pm : link
Then the Yanks can definitely DFA Ellsbury if they can't find a trade partner.
Well,  
Photoguy : 7/14/2017 9:39 pm : link
you'd certainly get no argument from me, if they did.
RE: Ellsbury batting 7th  
Beer Man : 7/14/2017 9:42 pm : link
In comment 13528689 KingZ said:
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I would prefer Ellsbury scratched. Traded for a pitcher. Baby steps lol. Hopefully that happens before Hicks returns.
I thought Frazier would have started tonight over Jacoby.
RE: RE: Ellsbury batting 7th  
KingZ : 7/14/2017 9:58 pm : link
In comment 13528698 Beer Man said:
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I would prefer Ellsbury scratched. Traded for a pitcher. Baby steps lol. Hopefully that happens before Hicks returns.

I thought Frazier would have started tonight over Jacoby.



Ellsbury could get concussed. Then they will never trade him. I agree on Frazier. There is no showcase with Ellsbury. DFA him please or bench him until pitcher with bad contract swap is complete, he has less luck than Fowler.
Remember when Arod was batting 7th?  
KingZ : 7/14/2017 10:00 pm : link
Hopefully something is in process. They had Ellsbury leading off with Gardner 9th saying that gave them 2 leadoff hitters.
Welcome back filthy Delin.  
Stu11 : 7/14/2017 10:13 pm : link
We missed you. Where'd you go the past month?
Good lord,  
Photoguy : 7/14/2017 10:18 pm : link
first base is a black hole.
.  
Danny Kanell : 7/14/2017 10:28 pm : link
Jesus Christ Chapman.
Headley has ZERO range to his left  
DennyInDenville : 7/14/2017 10:30 pm : link
Get him off this team
.  
Danny Kanell : 7/14/2017 10:32 pm : link
Unreal
Infield singles, goddamn.  
bceagle05 : 7/14/2017 10:32 pm : link
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going to lose  
MookGiants : 7/14/2017 10:32 pm : link
on two lucky infield singles. Fuck
After the last few  
Photoguy : 7/14/2017 10:32 pm : link
weeks, my confidence level is not exactly pointing upwards, here.
Chapman needs to strike out 3 in a row  
DennyInDenville : 7/14/2017 10:32 pm : link
Win this fucker
Toe , oh No..  
DennyInDenville : 7/14/2017 10:34 pm : link
Oh no
Torreyes  
MookGiants : 7/14/2017 10:35 pm : link
is not nearly good enough to fuck up like he has tonight in the field.

Why the fuck is he positioned like that? Playing him halfway makes no sense. Either play back or play all the way in
can't pin this one on Chapman  
MookGiants : 7/14/2017 10:35 pm : link
ball hasn't left the infield and these jackasses have a horse shoe up their ass
Absolutely can pin it on Chapman too  
Kyle in NY : 7/14/2017 10:38 pm : link
He has no command and he isn't getting swings and misses anymore

This contract already looks brutal

Walks in the winning run. Fucking joke
Ball  
cokeduplt : 7/14/2017 10:38 pm : link
DIdnt leave the infield wtf did I just watch!
It's to the point where I almost expect this bullpen  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/14/2017 10:39 pm : link
to give up a 9th inning lead every time these days.

What a fuckin joke  
B in ALB : 7/14/2017 10:39 pm : link
Chapman fucked his own ass and Torres was a nightmare in the field. Another horrific loss. Great job assholes.
What in the  
Photoguy : 7/14/2017 10:39 pm : link
blue fuck is going on?
.  
Danny Kanell : 7/14/2017 10:39 pm : link
What a brutal fucking loss. Goddamnit
Let's be honest.  
LarmerTJR : 7/14/2017 10:39 pm : link
Infield single, infield single (really an error), an error, IBB, and a walk...
85 million dollars  
Kyle in NY : 7/14/2017 10:40 pm : link
and the guy has no idea where the ball is going and can't throw a slider. Fuck off
Chapman sucks now  
32_Razor : 7/14/2017 10:40 pm : link
he is taking the money and running. He won a WS and is just collecting money on the yankees now. His mind is not into the game.
How many more years of Chapman?  
LarmerTJR : 7/14/2017 10:40 pm : link
No one is swinging through his stuff any more...and the command is give...
Game was lost because Toe didn't make some plays  
Phil in LA : 7/14/2017 10:40 pm : link
Gardy dropped one, and we didn't run our best lineup out there.
Can't remember a month of Yankee baseball like this in a long time  
Stu11 : 7/14/2017 10:41 pm : link
Just pure misery night after night. You keep figuring it will turn around at some point but it doesn't. The back end of the pen is like rolling yge dice at this point. Man the wheels have come off yhe wagon.
Yanks' 18th blown save of the year.  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/14/2017 10:41 pm : link
They had 16 all of last season.

These guys fucking suck.
a closer has to strike them out  
32_Razor : 7/14/2017 10:41 pm : link
he threw all fast balls and had no control
RE: Let's be honest.  
Danny Kanell : 7/14/2017 10:41 pm : link
In comment 13528726 LarmerTJR said:
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Infield single, infield single (really an error), an error, IBB, and a walk...


You're joking right?
RE: What a fuckin joke  
KingZ : 7/14/2017 10:42 pm : link
In comment 13528723 B in ALB said:
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Chapman fucked his own ass and Torres was a nightmare in the field. Another horrific loss. Great job assholes.


Maybe after this weekend, sell off continues. We're relying on the young guys to hit without good enough pitching.
Chapman has no idea where the ball is going  
B in ALB : 7/14/2017 10:42 pm : link
He had sucked cack.

23 pitches, 11 strikes, maybe 2 swing and misses? That's fuckin pathetic. Horrific stuff from Chapman.
I've never seen  
Kyle in NY : 7/14/2017 10:43 pm : link
a more hittable 100+mph fastball. I think he had one swing and miss all inning in 25 pitches. It's incredibly alarming
Another kick-in-the-balls loss.  
bceagle05 : 7/14/2017 10:43 pm : link
Ellsbury needs to get Sandoval'd. Frazier, Gardner, Hicks and Judge should be the OF group when Hicks gets healthy.
Can Frazier fucking play tomorrow?  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/14/2017 10:43 pm : link
When the fuck is Hicks coming back? Jesus Christ.
RE: RE: Let's be honest.  
LarmerTJR : 7/14/2017 10:44 pm : link
Not joking, today was a combination of bad luck, bad fielding, and lack of command.


In comment 13528734 Danny Kanell said:
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Infield single, infield single (really an error), an error, IBB, and a walk...



You're joking right?
Chapman  
Percy : 7/14/2017 10:44 pm : link
Tells you something about AL pressure compared to the NL.
Frankly, he can't be counted on in tight games in this League. IMHO, he just wasn't worth the money. Find someone else (along with real, reliable pitching help overall -- a festering shortcoming of the Yankees stratergy).
I've run out of things to bitch about  
Stu11 : 7/14/2017 10:50 pm : link
Either the SP'S get us down 5-0 or the backend guys blow it or both. I love Joe but in this stretch his lineup decisions continue to boggle the mind. Truthfully in a bunch of these games we've blown its allowing baserunners in the 7th and 8th that have killed us. We let teams turn over the order and get their best hitters up in the 9th.
just depressing, frankly  
Del Shofner : 7/14/2017 10:50 pm : link
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Stu11  
Photoguy : 7/14/2017 10:53 pm : link
nailed it...............this last month has been absolutely mind numbing in the way they've blown games.
Can we get Ellsbury out of the fuckin lineup too please?  
B in ALB : 7/14/2017 10:53 pm : link
Frazier should play until Hicks is back. Enough.

I hope this is just a one-year hangover for Chapman.  
bceagle05 : 7/14/2017 10:55 pm : link
That contract looks frightening right now.
Gardner  
KingZ : 7/14/2017 10:55 pm : link
He's the one vet, I hope they don't trade. All the rest should be available.
Another putrid punch in the balls 1 run loss  
The_Boss : 7/14/2017 10:56 pm : link
Makes you appreciate the Mariano years. Now, we're just another team crossing our fingers in the 9th with a lead.

Chances are Severino won't out duel Sale tomorrow and they'll manage to split Sunday losing 3 of 4 up there and leave 5.5 out...
RE: Can we get Ellsbury out of the fuckin lineup too please?  
KingZ : 7/14/2017 10:57 pm : link
In comment 13528749 B in ALB said:
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Frazier should play until Hicks is back. Enough.


Batting 7th, I'm not sure why he was in the lineup. He's fragile.
Sounds like I picked a good night to skip watching baseball  
mfsd : 7/14/2017 11:01 pm : link
and go to a movie
Like someone else mentioned, playing Ellsbury  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 7/14/2017 11:03 pm : link
was a pure "binder" move. Gardner and Ellsbury have solid/good numbers coming into the game versus Pomeranz. I would've started Frazier myself at one of those spots.

What a terrible loss. How many of these can we take??????????
Front end rotation...  
M.S. : 7/15/2017 8:48 am : link

...back end rotation.

Yanks quickly spinning into out of space.

Pitching has been the downfall of this team  
EddieNYG : 7/15/2017 8:52 am : link
In 2017. Whether it's a starting pitcher getting rocked early in the game or the bullpen blowing a lead late, it's either one or the other lately.

holy overreaction  
HomerJones45 : 7/15/2017 9:26 am : link
Chapman almost singe handidly won the WS for the Cubs Even without his command, ball doesnt get out of the infield Infielders blow two routine pkays and now he sucks Pitchers go through slumps too Look at Betances That doesnt mean these two arent really, really good

Left handed rookies usually sit against left handed starters That's the way it is It will be surprising if Frazier plays against Sale
RE: holy overreaction  
DennyInDenville : 7/15/2017 11:19 am : link
In comment 13528825 HomerJones45 said:
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Chapman almost singe handidly won the WS for the Cubs Even without his command, ball doesnt get out of the infield Infielders blow two routine pkays and now he sucks Pitchers go through slumps too Look at Betances That doesnt mean these two arent really, really good

Left handed rookies usually sit against left handed starters That's the way it is It will be surprising if Frazier plays against Sale

Frazier is a righty
RE: Front end rotation...  
B in ALB : 7/15/2017 12:11 pm : link
In comment 13528809 M.S. said:
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...back end rotation.

Yanks quickly spinning into out of space.


There he is. Doesn't show up unless the Yankees shit the bed. Like clockwork.


And homerjones - Frazier is a righty. Why wouldn't he bat against Sale? Your post makes no sense.
RE: Gardner  
Matt M. : 7/15/2017 1:06 pm : link
In comment 13528613 Mike Graves said:
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Leads off the game with a walk and never even attempted to steal. It's mind boggling
Don't confuse speed with good baserunning. Gardner is fast, but has never been more than an average base stealer.
RE: RE: Gardner  
RasputinPrime : 7/15/2017 1:43 pm : link
In comment 13528883 Matt M. said:
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Leads off the game with a walk and never even attempted to steal. It's mind boggling

Don't confuse speed with good baserunning. Gardner is fast, but has never been more than an average base stealer.


And don't confuse base stealing with base running. He is one of the best base runners in the majors.
RE: RE: Front end rotation...  
HomerJones45 : 7/15/2017 2:29 pm : link
In comment 13528858 B in ALB said:
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...back end rotation.

Yanks quickly spinning into out of space.




There he is. Doesn't show up unless the Yankees shit the bed. Like clockwork.


And homerjones - Frazier is a righty. Why wouldn't he bat against Sale? Your post makes no sense.
I had left field on the brain. You are right, the post makes no sense and neither did leaving Frazier out of the lineup last night.
RE: holy overreaction  
Milton : 7/15/2017 2:38 pm : link
In comment 13528825 HomerJones45 said:
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Chapman almost singe handedly won the WS for the Cubs Even without his command, ball doesn't get out of the infield Infielders blow two routine plays and now he sucks Pitchers go through slumps too. Look at Betances. That doesn't mean these two aren't really, really good.
My thinking as well. The starting rotation is another story unfortunately.
Agree about Frazier homer  
B in ALB : 7/15/2017 3:13 pm : link
Their insistence on playing the utterly useless Ellsbury is insane. Plus Red Thunder was hot coming into the break.
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