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Ranking All 32 Teams Front Seven

gidiefor : Mod : 7/15/2017 9:34 pm
Giants ranked 13 -- because of linebacker corps
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who is Bernardrick McKinney  
The Turk : 7/15/2017 9:36 pm : link
and why is on that chart?
RE: who is Bernardrick McKinney  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/15/2017 9:49 pm : link
In comment 13529133 The Turk said:
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and why is on that chart?


I sent them an email -- he's a Houston Texans ER
RE: who is Bernardrick McKinney  
OntheRoad : 7/15/2017 9:52 pm : link
In comment 13529133 The Turk said:
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and why is on that chart?


The author must have used the first image (Houston Texans) as a template for the Giants but forgot to change one of the lines. Editorial fatigue.

I don't mind the giants LBs at all.  
djm : 7/15/2017 9:57 pm : link
They might not be our best bunch but there is good qualityNFL talent at the position. Decent depth. Continuity. I'm fine with the LBs. They shouldn't hold back the front seven.
MLB BJ Goodson will help our front 7 compared to last year's bunch  
SGMen : 7/15/2017 10:13 pm : link
If DT Robert Thomas is at least DT Jonathan Hankins equal (not saying much based on ratings....) and MLB Goodson upgrades Shepard (not saying much either...) our front 7 will be just as good if not better than last year's group. It is also a deeper group depth wise I think with the addition of Taylor, Tomlinson. We'll see.
Thomas and bromley put together won't equal hank  
djm : 7/15/2017 10:35 pm : link
Don't care what the stats or metrics show, Hank was a good player. I think we're ok with the big three DT rotation next to snacks. Don't have to be great there just solid. We should be.
RE: I don't mind the giants LBs at all.  
WillVAB : 7/16/2017 1:10 am : link
In comment 13529156 djm said:
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They might not be our best bunch but there is good qualityNFL talent at the position. Decent depth. Continuity. I'm fine with the LBs. They shouldn't hold back the front seven.


The LB talent is below average and they do hold back the defense. This defense goes from top 5 to potentially historically great with a legitimate LB. The front 4 and secondary are littered with all-pro caliber players.

None of the LBs are particularly skilled at anything. Not good rushing the passer, decent vs the run, ok in coverage. Can't have all-pro's everywhere but the LBs are definitely the soft spot of a potentially elite defense.
Eagles Dline looks scary.  
prdave73 : 7/16/2017 3:02 am : link
Really wish the Giants went after Jerrigan. smh. Draft could have gone different too.
13 is middle of the pack  
aquidneck : 7/16/2017 7:41 am : link
Based on last year's results we're objectively better than that.
At first blush #13 seems to low but  
Jimmy Googs : 7/16/2017 9:08 am : link
when you look at the other teams' units in front of Giants, it probably isn't too far from the truth.

Lots of strong linebackers on other teams whereas our defensive investments have alternatively focused on CBs.

i'm generally fine with the ranking...
RE: Thomas and bromley put together won't equal hank  
section125 : 7/16/2017 9:14 am : link
In comment 13529180 djm said:
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Don't care what the stats or metrics show, Hank was a good player. I think we're ok with the big three DT rotation next to snacks. Don't have to be great there just solid. We should be.


I've said it before - I never really saw a difference in play when Thomas and Bromley were in the game. With everybody wearing a 90s #, it is hard to tell who was in the game, except Snacks. Obviously Hankins was the better of the three as he played the majority, but I don't think the drop off was that great.
How many of the teams above us  
eli4life : 7/16/2017 10:44 am : link
Have the secondary even close to what we have? Top 5 defense easily barring injuries of course
The Eagles at #3?  
PatersonPlank : 7/16/2017 11:52 am : link
I don't get that.
Philly scares me a bit  
giantgiantfan : 7/16/2017 12:42 pm : link
Giants have a horrible track record against them in recent years. We didn't exactly blow them out in our lone win against them last year either. We should have, Wentz threw two picks early allowing us to go up 14-0 and Eli threw for 4 TDs. Yet Philly kept things close.
RE: Philly scares me a bit  
giantgiantfan : 7/16/2017 12:43 pm : link
In comment 13529343 giantgiantfan said:
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Giants have a horrible track record against them in recent years. We didn't exactly blow them out in our lone win against them last year either. We should have, Wentz threw two picks early allowing us to go up 14-0 and Eli threw for 4 TDs. Yet Philly kept things close.


Looking at the game more, we lost the time of possession battle by 6 minutes. Running game was just terrible.
RE: The Eagles at #3?  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/16/2017 12:44 pm : link
In comment 13529319 PatersonPlank said:
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I don't get that.


Philly has a very good front 7
RE: Eagles Dline looks scary.  
WillVAB : 7/16/2017 5:48 pm : link
In comment 13529222 prdave73 said:
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Really wish the Giants went after Jerrigan. smh. Draft could have gone different too.


Reese did go after Jernigan.
RE: RE: The Eagles at #3?  
annexOPR : 7/16/2017 7:50 pm : link
In comment 13529345 gidiefor said:
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In comment 13529319 PatersonPlank said:


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I don't get that.



Philly has a very good front 7


exactly why I consider them the biggest threat in the division ... very good front 7, upgraded WR, solid OL, ertz ... I'm not "worried", but they could be a pain in the ass if Wentz progresses
RE: Thomas and bromley put together won't equal hank  
TMS : 7/16/2017 9:48 pm : link
In comment 13529180 djm said:
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Don't care what the stats or metrics show, Hank was a good player. I think we're ok with the big three DT rotation next to snacks. Don't have to be great there just solid. We should be.
Agree with you. We should have kept Hankins like Snacks asked us too. Once again we may have screwed up a top ten defense with this move.
Not a supporter or hater of decision on Hankins  
Jimmy Googs : 7/17/2017 6:03 am : link
but do I think his loss could lead to screwing up this Defense?

No.
Hankins will not be the same player without Snacks  
Mark C : 7/17/2017 9:56 am : link
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they changed McKinney to  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/18/2017 4:00 pm : link
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