METS LINEUP
Curtis Granderson – CF
Asdrubal Cabrera – 2B
Michael Conforto – LF
Jay Bruce – RF
T.J. Rivera – 3B
Lucas Duda – 1B
Jose Reyes – SS
Rene Rivera – C
Steven Matz – LHP
Yoenis Cespedes is out of the lineup today with a sore hip he suffered in Saturday night’s game with Colorado. He will undergo treatment today.
ROCKIES LINEUP
Charlie Blackmon – CF
D.J. LeMahieu – 2B
Nolan Arenado – 3B
Mark Reynolds – 1B
Ian Desmond – LF
Gerardo Parra – RF
Trevor Story – SS
Ryan Hanigan – C
Jeff Hoffman – RHP
Let's sweep these boulder fucks and take 3 of 4 from the Cards! Schedule gets much easier after that!
I still say it's not impossible the Mets make a run late. The question will be if they have enough runway left to make up the ground they've lost.
I still buy and sell....
1.) Get Cabrera off this team as soon as possible. Fuck that guy. This will allow TJ Rivera to stay in the lineup when Walker returns.
2.) Trade either Bruce or Granderson (Bruce probably brings back more). This allows Conforto to slide into his natural position in RF and also allows Nimmo to stay up when Lagares returns.
3.) Bring in a reliever. Sandy loves adding Clippard/Reed type guys at the deadline. Do it again Sandy.
Team stays in tact for when the cavalry returns and the Mets still come away with a few prospects. Win Win.
Bruce
Cabrera
Reed
Blevins
Get as many good prospects as possible
Bring up Smith Rosario and see what Nimmo got when he finishes his rehab
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Bruce
Cabrera
Reed
Blevins
Get as many good prospects as possible
Bring up Smith Rosario and see what Nimmo got when he finishes his rehab
There's nothing wrong with thinking that but why not keep things in play? A couple second tier prospects isn't helping our system that much and trading Reed and Blevins completely waves the white flag. The last TWO seasons the Mets went on massive runs in August. The Mets were 2 games under .500 on August 20th last year and made the playoffs! Im not trying to paint the picture the Mets are going to do it again but why not just keep things in play somewhat? The Rockies are paper wild card champs at the moment. They aren't that good. This series proves that. With Thor, Familia and others set to return I think it's pretty obvious we can be a better second half team.
But one thing. The team sucks defensively and that is not going to change no matter what pitching comes back
They can go on a run but there are approximately 8 other teams vying for the wild card. I don't like their chances
And I'd rather get some prospects back and get did if these guys for something then letting them go for nothing
So I have my doubts that our poor defense will ever change dramatically for the better with him in charge.
I still say it's not impossible the Mets make a run late. The question will be if they have enough runway left to make up the ground they've lost.
I still buy and sell....
1.) Get Cabrera off this team as soon as possible. Fuck that guy. This will allow TJ Rivera to stay in the lineup when Walker returns.
2.) Trade either Bruce or Granderson (Bruce probably brings back more). This allows Conforto to slide into his natural position in RF and also allows Nimmo to stay up when Lagares returns.
3.) Bring in a reliever. Sandy loves adding Clippard/Reed type guys at the deadline. Do it again Sandy.
Team stays in tact for when the cavalry returns and the Mets still come away with a few prospects. Win Win.
Is there actually a shot for Harvey to return this season?
So I have my doubts that our poor defense will ever change dramatically for the better with him in charge.
Isn't that a crime Sandy thinks like that
Need to be strong defensively up the middle
Catcher TDA sucks
SS and 2nd base. Poor defense
CF. less than adequate
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that defense in his opinion is not the priority that offense and pitching are when building a team.
So I have my doubts that our poor defense will ever change dramatically for the better with him in charge.
Isn't that a crime Sandy thinks like that
Need to be strong defensively up the middle
Catcher TDA sucks
SS and 2nd base. Poor defense
CF. less than adequate
I agree. Regardless whether or not the pitching staff has help up or not, I can't imagine not making defense a priority when building a team around a great young pitching staff.
But one thing. The team sucks defensively and that is not going to change no matter what pitching comes back
They can go on a run but there are approximately 8 other teams vying for the wild card. I don't like their chances
And I'd rather get some prospects back and get did if these guys for something then letting them go for nothing
Who are the biggest culprits on defense though? IMO, it's Cabrera. If he's gone things imrpove with Reyes/Rosario at SS. Walker is average and TJ at third wont be great but it's not awful either.
“As a partial indictment of myself, what you have to do is you have to make choices about defense, athleticism, offense, etc. You have to set priorities. I wouldn’t say defense has always been our highest priority, and that goes all the way back to the World Series year of 2015.
“On the other hand there’s sort of a de minimis level that one needs to hit.”
“As I sit here I say, ‘Gee, defense can’t possibly be as important as offense, it’s only a percentage of what comes to play in run prevention,’ ’’ Alderson said. “Not to say it’s not important, but ultimately in terms of priorities, it’s a little less important. What really is important on that side of the ball is pitching and our pitching has been lousy, and it’s partly because of injuries and it’s partly because of performance. … In terms of having a bias towards offense I think that will probably always exist with me.’’
Familia
Reed
Madson
Blevins
Doolittle
Sewald
That would have been nice...
I still say it's not impossible the Mets make a run late. The question will be if they have enough runway left to make up the ground they've lost.
I still buy and sell....
1.) Get Cabrera off this team as soon as possible. Fuck that guy. This will allow TJ Rivera to stay in the lineup when Walker returns.
2.) Trade either Bruce or Granderson (Bruce probably brings back more). This allows Conforto to slide into his natural position in RF and also allows Nimmo to stay up when Lagares returns.
3.) Bring in a reliever. Sandy loves adding Clippard/Reed type guys at the deadline. Do it again Sandy.
Team stays in tact for when the cavalry returns and the Mets still come away with a few prospects. Win Win.
Can this game mean we can be sensible and be sellers this month? The idea that the Mets were going to contend for a playoff spot is absurd.
I was all for bringing him back on the cheap as a solid vet to fill out the pen but one of his biggest attractions was that he was cheap and cuttable if he didn't work out. Why is he still here?
I know Rivera is doing great, but you trade him NOW while his value is high.. right?
I know Rivera is doing great, but you trade him NOW while his value is high.. right?
I would. The guy can hit, but he's a player without a position. I understand sacrificing D for O, but he is a brutal fielder, and doesn't have a ton of power. If the offer is right, I'd move him.
The two are almost identical except Flores more power
You keep him, then. Low cost/productive player. At the MINIMUM, he's a very good bench player on a good team. At BEST, he's a productive hitter, everyday.
I know Rivera is doing great, but you trade him NOW while his value is high.. right?
Are they inquiring both, or one or the other?
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Cabrera and TJ Rivera
I know Rivera is doing great, but you trade him NOW while his value is high.. right?
Are they inquiring both, or one or the other?
They are calling every team about 3b help. Not really sure Cabrera/Rivera make a ton of sense for them in that role (one refuses to play 3b, the other is below average there). I'm guessing due diligence.
Man, Justin Wilson is an absolute steal at 2.7 million
They are calling every team about 3b help. Not really sure Cabrera/Rivera make a ton of sense for them in that role (one refuses to play 3b, the other is below average there). I'm guessing due diligence.
They must be desperate if they're considering Cabrera for 3B. Personally, I think he's a decent fit at 2B, but doesn't have the bat or arm for 3B.
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Man, Justin Wilson is an absolute steal at 2.7 million
Why are you rooting for a cardinals sweep?
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Man, Justin Wilson is an absolute steal at 2.7 million
Why are you rooting for a cardinals sweep?
Because the Mets need to be sellers and not idiotic if they win 2/3 and suddenly believe they are close. None of the pitchers are coming back "soon", the bullpen is laughable, it's time to move the vets and look toward 2018.
"Not surprisingly, we'll be open to talking to clubs about various possibilities. So, certainly, the next week or 10 days will have a bearing on that, but I don't think we'll have a material impact on our thinking at this point.""
""This is not a teardown situation," Alderson said before the Mets hosted the Rockies. "This is what I believe is a pause button. We're going to have a lot of players that are free agents at the end of the year. A lot of payroll will become available. We're not looking to rebuild, quote-unquote, we're looking to make sure we have a nucleus of a competitive team going into next year."
As did Jay Bruce
“If the organization isn’t always trying to make themselves better in the long run, then they’re doing everyone involved a disservice — the fans, the players on the team currently, everyone,” Bruce said. “Because the goal is to be good for a long period of time.”
Fangraphs gives the Mets a little under a 10% chance of winning a wild card spot. Given that we're likely looking at pretty marginal returns for our guys, I'm fine with the team going on an 8-2 streak and I get some fun baseball to watch over the last few months. It's not like we have a Miller or a Chapman that teams are going to get into bidding wars over.
Fangraphs gives the Mets a little under a 10% chance of winning a wild card spot. Given that we're likely looking at pretty marginal returns for our guys, I'm fine with the team going on an 8-2 streak and I get some fun baseball to watch over the last few months. It's not like we have a Miller or a Chapman that teams are going to get into bidding wars over.
Every prospect is a potential lottery ticket. You never know who is going to develop further or be better than expected. Heck, Syndergaard (a first rounder) was a prospect Keith Law thought was a future reliever and ranked him #87 in baseball, DeGrom was a non-prospect. The system is very thin, trade all impending FA's it's the right move.
I guess we're also working on incomplete information because we don't know what type of offers/interest Alderson is getting for the players.
If we do sell, I'd be thrilled to get anyone that's even an honourable mention on someone's top 100 list. Best return might be to package two useful players to a team with a big need (maybe seattle?).
If it's true that because of Cabrera, Rosario has been in the minors this long (and otherwise they would have called him up sooner), that's an indictment of the front office and coaching staff.
It's not like Asdrubal Cabrera is a difference maker.
It reminds of the excuses that Al Leiter and ancient Jon Franco said Kazmir would be bad for the clubhouse because of his cockiness.
Guys like Rivera and Flores are good to have around. Players get hurt all the time and versatile IFs can be worth a few extra wins over the course of the season. Remember the days of Loney, Campbell and Reynolds getting significant meaningful ABs over the course of the season? I'd hate to see us go back to that.
Do you think he'll finish the year in AA? Are the odds of him coming back to play baseball again next year over 80% at this point?
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more hits for Tebow. Freak.
Do you think he'll finish the year in AA? Are the odds of him coming back to play baseball again next year over 80% at this point?
Sandy seemingly closed the door on a Sept callup so maybe they wait until next season to "help" Bing and ticket sales. I haven't seen any indication he will "retire" after the season but who knows? He's already accomplished more than anyone (including the Mets) could have expected. He's been pretty amazing all things considered.
Guys like Rivera and Flores are good to have around. Players get hurt all the time and versatile IFs can be worth a few extra wins over the course of the season. Remember the days of Loney, Campbell and Reynolds getting significant meaningful ABs over the course of the season? I'd hate to see us go back to that.
Well TJ Rivera isn't an example of a guy I'd be looking to trade. I'm putting up all pending FA on auction and listening on anyone else. #9 prospect in the Astros system for Jay Bruce is still better than nothing.
The first move the team makes is the most important. It's the signal to other teams what the starting point is, the value, the desperation to make the move. The first trade is the absolute most vital one - hence why Cabrera has not been "given away" as some have suggested should be done...
As for those that don't want to root for losses - it'd be the best thing that could ever happen to the franchise. An all out collapse for 2.5 months!!
If it's true that because of Cabrera, Rosario has been in the minors this long (and otherwise they would have called him up sooner), that's an indictment of the front office and coaching staff.
It's not like Asdrubal Cabrera is a difference maker.
It reminds of the excuses that Al Leiter and ancient Jon Franco said Kazmir would be bad for the clubhouse because of his cockiness.
I have my doubts Cabrera is much of a factor in whether or not to bring up Rosario. Rosario would be taking Reyes's starting spot at this point not Cabrera's.
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Sandy, and put the for sale sign out and leave it out until the dead weight is gone.
If it's true that because of Cabrera, Rosario has been in the minors this long (and otherwise they would have called him up sooner), that's an indictment of the front office and coaching staff.
It's not like Asdrubal Cabrera is a difference maker.
It reminds of the excuses that Al Leiter and ancient Jon Franco said Kazmir would be bad for the clubhouse because of his cockiness.
I have my doubts Cabrera is much of a factor in whether or not to bring up Rosario. Rosario would be taking Reyes's starting spot at this point not Cabrera's.
I'm not personally buying it. I think it's mostly about wanting to settle the clubhouse post 7/31 aka who is gone/who is here etc. I'm not saying Cabrera is some angel but which veteran on a bad team embraces being replaced? And yet it still happens without a story. I'm not buying this one.
Is it really good for the Mets if Wheeler gets tagged tonight? Any new prospect that we'd get likely wouldn't make up the value "lost" from our controlled MLB guys underperforming.
I'm not telling others how to feel. I just think the worst possible situation is the one you laid out. Going 8-2 over the next 10 games and then standing pat or even worse "buying". They have enough talent going into next season with some tweaks they can legit be a playoff caliber team. This roster as of today not that. I'd take a few chips for guys who certainly won't be back next year + playing time for the kids. Win win.
well I dont think those teams would want him anyways.
DBs and the Yanks are set in the OF. Twins and Rays I'm not so sure about.
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According to Wagner, Bruce has the right to veto a deal sending him to the A's, Blue Jays, Diamondbacks, Marlins, Phillies, Rays, Twins, and Yankees.
well I dont think those teams would want him anyways.
DBs and the Yanks are set in the OF. Twins and Rays I'm not so sure about.
Maybe as a 1B? Though Duda is obviously a better fit there.