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NFT: Cardinals at Mets Game 1

ZGiants98 : 7/17/2017 5:31 pm
Cardinals Lineup

Matt Carpenter – 1B
Tommy Pham – LF
Dexter Fowler – CF
Jedd Gyorko – 3B
Yadier Molina – C
Paul DeJong – SS
Kolten Wong – 2B
Magneuris Sierra – RF
Adam Wainwright – RHP

Mets Lineup

Michael Conforto – CF
Asdrubal Cabrera – 2B
Yoenis Cespedes – LF
Jay Bruce – RF
T.J. Rivera – 3B
Lucas Duda – 1B
Jose Reyes – SS
Travis d’Arnaud – C
Zack Wheeler – RHP
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No question he's having a bad year  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/18/2017 12:06 am : link
sluggers are gonna be pretty useless trying to play around leg and hip injuries.

I feel like we've seen enough good out of him to say that he's clearly not right when he's playing like this, and the Mets have totally lost the benefit of the doubt with me concerning getting players through injuries.

Same guy OPSd 1.000 last summer.
RE: RE: Really warms the heart  
Section331 : 7/18/2017 9:35 am : link
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Both with bad wheels


Cabrera looks like he's running with square wheels, the fat fuck.
RE: The Mets top 30 prospect list looks sad  
DanMetroMan : 7/18/2017 9:37 am : link
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with the exception of the top two.
Prospect list - ( New Window )


That list isn't even close to up to date but yes insane amount of injuries and under performance.
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arcarsenal : 7/18/2017 2:03 pm : link
However Cespedes is training, it's obviously not to his benefit and needs to be corrected.
Seems  
DanMetroMan : 7/18/2017 2:06 pm : link
like they let these guys do whatever they want. Syndergaard says he's not changing anything, Dom Smith has again packed on weight (he's hitting, I'm not hating, just pointing out a fact).
RE: Seems  
steve in ky : 7/18/2017 2:11 pm : link
In comment 13531163 DanMetroMan said:
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like they let these guys do whatever they want. Syndergaard says he's not changing anything, Dom Smith has again packed on weight (he's hitting, I'm not hating, just pointing out a fact).


Seems like sports stars are mini corporations these days and while yes they are under contract they still view themselves as their own entity and many no longer all buy into the traditional "employer/employee" concept.

In other words a lot of them do what they want, in all sports for many teams.
RE: RE: Seems  
DanMetroMan : 7/18/2017 2:16 pm : link
In comment 13531169 steve in ky said:
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In comment 13531163 DanMetroMan said:


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like they let these guys do whatever they want. Syndergaard says he's not changing anything, Dom Smith has again packed on weight (he's hitting, I'm not hating, just pointing out a fact).



Seems like sports stars are mini corporations these days and while yes they are under contract they still view themselves as their own entity and many no longer all buy into the traditional "employer/employee" concept.

In other words a lot of them do what they want, in all sports for many teams.


The Mets have (to me) an unseemly situation where a Michigan guy (Barwis) has a business deal with the Mets via Fred (Michigan). They funnel these guys to Barwis in the off-season (the players pay for themselves). Maybe other teams have similar setups (no clue) but it just seems like the Mets in particular need to change the way they do this. Even for "lets just try something else" purposes.
RE: Seems  
pjcas18 : 7/18/2017 2:18 pm : link
In comment 13531163 DanMetroMan said:
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like they let these guys do whatever they want. Syndergaard says he's not changing anything, Dom Smith has again packed on weight (he's hitting, I'm not hating, just pointing out a fact).


I want him to gain more weight and be a cross between Prince Fielder and Mo Vaughn. Best case scenario. Sure he won't steal bases but he'll hit the hell out of the ball and play a decent 1B.
RE: RE: Seems  
DanMetroMan : 7/18/2017 2:23 pm : link
In comment 13531184 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 13531163 DanMetroMan said:


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like they let these guys do whatever they want. Syndergaard says he's not changing anything, Dom Smith has again packed on weight (he's hitting, I'm not hating, just pointing out a fact).



I want him to gain more weight and be a cross between Prince Fielder and Mo Vaughn. Best case scenario. Sure he won't steal bases but he'll hit the hell out of the ball and play a decent 1B.


PJ,
In all honesty my point wasn't a dig at Smith rather it doesn't seem like their training methods/nutrition plans are working as an organization. What is the harm in trying something new unless it's a Wilpon/Barwis $$ situation?
I completely agree with you  
pjcas18 : 7/18/2017 2:25 pm : link
when your injury history is this bad this consistently you can't simply approach the next season the way you did the last one, and the one before that, and the one before that.

this is no longer a statistical normality (IMO, haven't seen stats).

The Mets 100% need to change things up and if that means ending Barwis and pay them/not pay them who cares, baseball has to come first.

my comment about Smith was simply I don't care how fat he is.
RE: Mets are now picking 6th (tied w/ Detroit) in the 2018 draft  
Shecky : 7/18/2017 3:48 pm : link
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let the tanking begin!


Top three would be great ;)
HS  
DanMetroMan : 7/18/2017 3:50 pm : link
crop looks very very sexy. 3 HS SP are being called potential 1's.
RE: RE: Mets are now picking 6th (tied w/ Detroit) in the 2018 draft  
spike : 7/18/2017 4:38 pm : link
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let the tanking begin!



Top three would be great ;)


Phillies and Giants are way too far ahead or below.
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