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Bill Belichick's Shirt is Causing Quite the Controversy

pjcas18 : 7/18/2017 1:39 pm


Closer view of the image:



I leave it without commentary, but I will link one of the multitude of recent articles about it linked.

There is actually a story behind the shirt, the creator and the proceeds, if I can find it I'll link it (if people don't want this deleted)


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+1 Mark  
David in LA : 7/18/2017 3:03 pm : link
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If he wears the shirt in some sort of official capacity  
AnnapolisMike : 7/18/2017 3:06 pm : link
Then you have a story...

Makes me look at someone who'd wear that  
Beezer : 7/18/2017 3:09 pm : link
a bit skeptically. Not the best judgment for a public figure.

But BFD!
What people don't get  
LCtheINTMachine : 7/18/2017 3:17 pm : link
is that shirt is one of the most popular around. I have seen it a few times at the beach. It's because people are so down and demoralized by the state of the country that they want something to hang their hat on, and that is that we kick the most ass with the greatest military the world has ever seen. It's a shirt that signifies our greatness at destroying the enemy.
LOL  
allstarjim : 7/18/2017 3:18 pm : link
That shirt is hilarious.
I'm much more concerned  
Renton : 7/18/2017 3:20 pm : link
with his tits.

People offended by this shirt should really start thinking about jumping off a cliff.
I might buy one.  
allstarjim : 7/18/2017 3:21 pm : link
Thanks for posting.
What does this man have against sleeves?  
Bluenatic : 7/18/2017 3:22 pm : link
Really.
Sorry, but I must be missing something here  
B in ALB : 7/18/2017 3:25 pm : link
What exactly is the issue with the shirt other than it is atrociously ill-fitting?
When did Michael Vick join the Seals?  
njm : 7/18/2017 3:28 pm : link
No wonder CK is pissed.
RE: I might buy one.  
pjcas18 : 7/18/2017 3:29 pm : link
In comment 13531304 allstarjim said:
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Thanks for posting.

I believe the shirt is sold out.

the proceeds of the shirt go to a Navy Seal Foundation.

It was designed by a former Navy Seal and it was supposed to be him and his/a military dog in Afghanistan and I think it was supposed to be symbolic of the downfall of Bin Laden.

the take-away I have most from the shirt, more than the viewers interpretation of the message, more than charity, is that Belichick doesn't give a fuck and that's part of what makes him successful.

Ben McAdoo could not wear this shirt. Hue Jackson couldn't wear this shirt.

Belichick can and does.
More offended by Belichick in the shirt  
Jimmy Googs : 7/18/2017 3:35 pm : link
than anything else...
It makes me sad that there is a certain segment  
giant24 : 7/18/2017 3:36 pm : link
of our country that gets upset by our military ending a Islamic terrorists life - a person who blows up innocent woman and children, beheads Christians and Gays or any non-believer, a person who won't let woman go to school, a scourge on our world.
I wouldn't wear it  
Ron Johnson 30 : 7/18/2017 3:45 pm : link
and I think it's dumb and border line inappropriate but I don't care if he wants to wear it.
RE: It makes me sad that there is a certain segment  
Ron Johnson 30 : 7/18/2017 3:46 pm : link
In comment 13531330 giant24 said:
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of our country that gets upset by our military ending a Islamic terrorists life - a person who blows up innocent woman and children, beheads Christians and Gays or any non-believer, a person who won't let woman go to school, a scourge on our world.


And posts like that makes me sad. We're even.
RE: It makes me sad that there is a certain segment  
LCtheINTMachine : 7/18/2017 3:46 pm : link
In comment 13531330 giant24 said:
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of our country that gets upset by our military ending a Islamic terrorists life - a person who blows up innocent woman and children, beheads Christians and Gays or any non-believer, a person who won't let woman go to school, a scourge on our world.


Exactly and couldn't have said it better myself. We defeated the enemy and people are upset about it? It's truly incredible. People here have no idea what it's like in these hellholes with religious warfare, beheadings and mysogyny. The people who commit these atrocities are pure scum.


This is old news  
Torrag : 7/18/2017 3:52 pm : link
It's about that cocksucker Bin Laden.
RE: RE: It makes me sad that there is a certain segment  
David in LA : 7/18/2017 3:54 pm : link
In comment 13531342 LCtheINTMachine said:
Quote:
In comment 13531330 giant24 said:


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of our country that gets upset by our military ending a Islamic terrorists life - a person who blows up innocent woman and children, beheads Christians and Gays or any non-believer, a person who won't let woman go to school, a scourge on our world.



Exactly and couldn't have said it better myself. We defeated the enemy and people are upset about it? It's truly incredible. People here have no idea what it's like in these hellholes with religious warfare, beheadings and mysogyny. The people who commit these atrocities are pure scum.



Oh look, it's a dumbass circle jerk.
Where?  
xman : 7/18/2017 4:05 pm : link
pass the donuts
I don't think that anyone here, or frankly almost any American,  
yatqb : 7/18/2017 4:16 pm : link
was upset that we killed Bin Laden. We all celebrated it. It's a shame that some here interpret reservations about the shirt with reservations about killing Bin Laden. It's just not accurate, and it allows one to stereotype anyone who has concerns about the shirt.

Mark's comments resonate with me. I wouldn't wear that particular shirt, but it would take more than such a decision to accurately categorize my views towards terrorism.
Is it me?  
Doomster : 7/18/2017 4:16 pm : link
Or has Bill lost some weight?
Opinions are like assholes.  
Taggart : 7/18/2017 4:35 pm : link
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RE: To disagree with something, or to question its appropriateness,  
Matt M. : 7/18/2017 4:40 pm : link
In comment 13531225 Mark C said:
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does not equal being "butthurt" by it. Nor does it indicate that I'm a liberal or a conservative- two terms which have become such epithets in the discourse of this country that they really have hardly any political meaning these days.

The thing I hate most about BBI is that some people, really a minority, can't seem to have discussions about ANYTHING without attacking, putting a label on, or being threatened by anyone who might disagree with them. And as always, their voices are the loudest.

As to the shirt: Personally, I think it's inappropriate. I don't think, nor do I want my children to think, that killing for any reason is something to be either celebrated or trivialized by putting it on a tee shirt. When famous people do that, it tends to affirm and normalize attitudes that are reflexively violent and ultimately destructive. And in this case, despite the contention that the depiction is of Bin Laden and not just some random muslim guy, it is sufficiently vague as to be stereotypical.

Bellichik should know better, and frankly, he should show more respect for the people who are actually tasked by the American Empire to do its killing for it, than to make it look like nothing more than taking sides in a football game.
Very well said. I would also say it's inappropriate for the same reasons. I wouldn't say I'm offended or not offended, but I would say it's inappropriate. Now, a public figure in sports, where children are focusing a lot of attention, I think, should show a little better judgement or restraint than he did here. But, to each his own.
F Bin Ladin  
spike : 7/18/2017 4:42 pm : link
Did people forget what he did to US?
RE: I don't think that anyone here, or frankly almost any American,  
Matt M. : 7/18/2017 4:42 pm : link
In comment 13531398 yatqb said:
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was upset that we killed Bin Laden. We all celebrated it. It's a shame that some here interpret reservations about the shirt with reservations about killing Bin Laden. It's just not accurate, and it allows one to stereotype anyone who has concerns about the shirt.

Mark's comments resonate with me. I wouldn't wear that particular shirt, but it would take more than such a decision to accurately categorize my views towards terrorism.
I can only speak for myself. I was not upset when we killed Bin Laden. I thought it was necessary and important. However, I did think the actions of many (most?) Americans gloating, posting memes, etc. was inappropriate and unnecessary. As Mark C. said earlier, killing is not something we should glorify regardless of the reasons behind it.
am,  
Les in TO : 7/18/2017 4:57 pm : link
I the only one who thinks he looks like a complete creep? even if his shirt was blank, it is too short length wise and he does not have the physique or hairless arms to pull off that kind of shirt.

I know he's a football god and is probably too preoccupied creating new formations, plays etc in his football lab to care about fashion, but he either needs a good woman in his life to dress him or get Giselle to send him some regular shipments of age and fit appropriate clothing.
Nice shirt.  
Dave in Hoboken : 7/18/2017 5:15 pm : link
Glad it exists.
RE: To disagree with something, or to question its appropriateness,  
B in ALB : 7/18/2017 5:24 pm : link
In comment 13531225 Mark C said:
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does not equal being "butthurt" by it. Nor does it indicate that I'm a liberal or a conservative- two terms which have become such epithets in the discourse of this country that they really have hardly any political meaning these days.

The thing I hate most about BBI is that some people, really a minority, can't seem to have discussions about ANYTHING without attacking, putting a label on, or being threatened by anyone who might disagree with them. And as always, their voices are the loudest.

As to the shirt: Personally, I think it's inappropriate. I don't think, nor do I want my children to think, that killing for any reason is something to be either celebrated or trivialized by putting it on a tee shirt. When famous people do that, it tends to affirm and normalize attitudes that are reflexively violent and ultimately destructive. And in this case, despite the contention that the depiction is of Bin Laden and not just some random muslim guy, it is sufficiently vague as to be stereotypical.

Bellichik should know better, and frankly, he should show more respect for the people who are actually tasked by the American Empire to do its killing for it, than to make it look like nothing more than taking sides in a football game.


Not sure about your last sentence Mark. Robert O'Neill was on Howard Stern this morning and he sounds like he and his SF mates wouldn't mind this shirt at all and would probably order a crate for them and their pals.

My brother did over 400 missions with his SF unit in Iraq and received the Bronze Star for killing a notorious hunter of American convoys - he would probably wear this shirt and have a good laugh about it over a few beers.

The shirt would be the last thing that he'd think was disrespectful.
Not only that the shirt  
pjcas18 : 7/18/2017 5:35 pm : link
was designed by an ex-Navy Seal, who now owns a company selling equipment and training to military and LE - mostly around k9's.

the proceeds from the shirt go to the Navy Seal Foundation.

Pretty sure the "people who are actually tasked by the American Empire to do its killing for it" are not offended by the shirt even if some people on their couches can't fathom that. and I'm "on my couch" so I don't mean to imply otherwise, but at least I can understand how they're not offended.
RE: Not only that the shirt  
rebel yell : 7/18/2017 5:49 pm : link
In comment 13531518 pjcas18 said:
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was designed by an ex-Navy Seal, who now owns a company selling equipment and training to military and LE - mostly around k9's.

the proceeds from the shirt go to the Navy Seal Foundation.

Pretty sure the "people who are actually tasked by the American Empire to do its killing for it" are not offended by the shirt even if some people on their couches can't fathom that. and I'm "on my couch" so I don't mean to imply otherwise, but at least I can understand how they're not offended.


Good post. The perpetually offended will continue to be perpetually offended. As active duty Navy, I'm thrilled we're killing terrorists. "War is our business, and business is good."
I'm trying  
TJ : 7/18/2017 5:53 pm : link
but I just can't find any controversy here.
I'm still mad at the blatant racism at baseball parks  
Gmen1982 : 7/18/2017 7:07 pm : link
I'll direct my anger at the shirt after ballparks stop supporting the KKK!
RE: Sorry, but I must be missing something here  
SomeFan : 7/18/2017 7:17 pm : link
In comment 13531309 B in ALB said:
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What exactly is the issue with the shirt other than it is atrociously ill-fitting?


He'a got a little bit of beotch teats going on there too.
RE: RE: Sorry, but I must be missing something here  
SomeFan : 7/18/2017 7:19 pm : link
In comment 13531594 SomeFan said:
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In comment 13531309 B in ALB said:


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What exactly is the issue with the shirt other than it is atrociously ill-fitting?

albeit he is over 60 now I believe.



He'a got a little bit of beotch teats going on there too.
So what's the problem?  
Fishmanjim57 : 7/18/2017 7:55 pm : link
I have no problems with his shirt!
I'm quite liberal  
annexOPR : 7/18/2017 8:02 pm : link
and even I'm sick of the pussification of this country

"boo hoo your shirt offends me, take it off!"

get a f'ing life - or celebrate the fact your life is soooo good that a t-shirt is your biggest concern.
That man should not be  
larryflower37 : 7/18/2017 8:13 pm : link
Allowed to use scissors.
He is worse than a 15 year old girl in the 80's
This is the best example of an NFG/NFT topic I have ever seen  
DaveW2 : 7/18/2017 8:42 pm : link
However, I'll play.

War is the most despicable endeavor created by man. It is usually a result of either one side wanting something that the other side has, or else a lame show of strength. Both of these reasons are juvenile. But with all the testosterone out there, rational discussion of differences seems to be out of the question these days.

Admittedly, this is a very complex problem, but I agree with Marvin Gaye when he said "War is not the answer".

RE: This is the best example of an NFG/NFT topic I have ever seen  
DaveW2 : 7/18/2017 8:58 pm : link
In comment 13531660 DaveW2 said:
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However, I'll play.

War is the most despicable endeavor created by man. It is usually a result of either one side wanting something that the other side has, or else a lame show of strength. Both of these reasons are juvenile. But with all the testosterone out there, rational discussion of differences seems to be out of the question these days.

Admittedly, this is a very complex problem, but I agree with Marvin Gaye when he said "War is not the answer".


Sorry, I was referring to war started aggressively. Engaging in a war for defensive reasons is obviously justified.

RE: This is the best example of an NFG/NFT topic I have ever seen  
Klaatu : 7/19/2017 8:57 am : link
In comment 13531660 DaveW2 said:
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However, I'll play.

War is the most despicable endeavor created by man. It is usually a result of either one side wanting something that the other side has, or else a lame show of strength. Both of these reasons are juvenile. But with all the testosterone out there, rational discussion of differences seems to be out of the question these days.

Admittedly, this is a very complex problem, but I agree with Marvin Gaye when he said "War is not the answer".


I don't know...to me, it depends on what the question is.
......  
CoughlinHandsonHips : 7/19/2017 9:05 am : link
Did he cut up that shirt himself? Why the hell would he do that? It looks horrible
RE: ......  
pjcas18 : 7/19/2017 9:13 am : link
In comment 13532109 CoughlinHandsonHips said:
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Did he cut up that shirt himself? Why the hell would he do that? It looks horrible


suns out guns out. plus he wanted to expose his six pack if he lifts his hands up.
==========  
GiantFilthy : 7/19/2017 9:21 am : link

1. Who gives a fark?

2. I don't think some should call people pussies for being offended by a shirt while also getting sandy vag from someone kneeling.

even though he is a steelers  
Les in TO : 7/19/2017 10:27 am : link
fan, esai morales approves of little bill's cropped top and sleeves.

The important question here that needs to be fielded here is this:  
Big Blue '56 : 7/19/2017 10:42 am : link
Is his outfit more or less stylish than McAdoo's in his initial presser?
Too many "here's"  
Big Blue '56 : 7/19/2017 10:43 am : link
Oops
RE: ==========  
T-Bone : 7/19/2017 11:10 am : link
In comment 13532135 GiantFilthy said:
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1. Who gives a fark?

2. I don't think some should call people pussies for being offended by a shirt while also getting sandy vag from someone kneeling.


LOL! Ooops...
RE: My biggest problem with the shirt  
giantgiantfan : 7/19/2017 1:05 pm : link
In comment 13531193 jtfuoco said:
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is that it looks like he cut off the bottom of the shirt to make it shorter why would you do that? I can understand the sleeves because they can restrict some movement but the bottom of the shirt what are trying to do show off your gut.


Bill Belishirt
ugh since when does  
Bubba : 7/19/2017 1:12 pm : link
Bill care what anyone thinks of him?
If you look hard enough  
BigK : 7/19/2017 4:41 pm : link
You will find someone somewhere that is offended by pretty much everything. Some people just look for things to be offended by and if they can't find it, they will make it up. The problem becomes when those people somehow represent a whole segment of society. It's utter bullshit. I'm pretty damn liberal and I can't remember the last time I was offended by something. Progressive outrage? Give me a break
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