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NFT: Mets willing to pick up cash for better prospects

CMicks3110 : 7/19/2017 8:23 am
refreshing to hear the Mets are really willing to get the best haul possible

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The Mets are willing to include cash in trades to secure better prospects, according to sources with knowledge of the teams thinking.
Outfielder Jay Bruce, for example, currently is owed more than $5 million for the rest of the season a significant payroll bump for even a high-revenue club.
Infielder Asdrubal Cabrera, meanwhile, has a $2 million buyout on his $8.5 million club option. The Mets likely would pick that up, knowing they would pay it anyway.
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DanMetroMan : 7/20/2017 12:10 pm : link
In what seems like an annual tradition per @MattEhalt there has been "limited" interest in Jay Bruce #Mets
RE: David Phelps  
DanMetroMan : 7/20/2017 12:11 pm : link
In comment 13533261 feelflows said:
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netted 4 prospects from Seattle.

Addison Reed should bring back a nice return.


Phelps has more value than anyone the Mets have to offer.
Rubin said  
Metnut : 7/20/2017 12:21 pm : link
that a team called the Mets to ask about TJ Rivera and that the Mets asked for an obscene price.
RE: RE: David Phelps  
pjcas18 : 7/20/2017 12:23 pm : link
In comment 13533310 DanMetroMan said:
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netted 4 prospects from Seattle.

Addison Reed should bring back a nice return.



Phelps has more value than anyone the Mets have to offer.


Only because Phelps is under control in 2018, for a win-now team Reed is a better pitcher than Phelps and should still net a decent return.

RE: RE: RE: David Phelps  
DanMetroMan : 7/20/2017 12:26 pm : link
In comment 13533329 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 13533261 feelflows said:


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netted 4 prospects from Seattle.

Addison Reed should bring back a nice return.



Phelps has more value than anyone the Mets have to offer.



Only because Phelps is under control in 2018, for a win-now team Reed is a better pitcher than Phelps and should still net a decent return.


For sure. But 1.5 years of control beats .5 a year and Phelps didn't really bring back a sexy package as it is. Phelps also potentially can be viewed as a rotation piece next season if Seattle wants go to that way. The best piece they got was a bonus baby who has yet to do much. Seattle made a solid move here despite the hubbub over "4 prospects for Phelps?!?
RE: Rubin said  
DanMetroMan : 7/20/2017 12:26 pm : link
In comment 13533325 Metnut said:
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that a team called the Mets to ask about TJ Rivera and that the Mets asked for an obscene price.


Very silly.
RE: RE: RE: RE: David Phelps  
pjcas18 : 7/20/2017 12:30 pm : link
In comment 13533335 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 13533310 DanMetroMan said:


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netted 4 prospects from Seattle.

Addison Reed should bring back a nice return.



Phelps has more value than anyone the Mets have to offer.



Only because Phelps is under control in 2018, for a win-now team Reed is a better pitcher than Phelps and should still net a decent return.




For sure. But 1.5 years of control beats .5 a year and Phelps didn't really bring back a sexy package as it is. Phelps also potentially can be viewed as a rotation piece next season if Seattle wants go to that way. The best piece they got was a bonus baby who has yet to do much. Seattle made a solid move here despite the hubbub over "4 prospects for Phelps?!?


I agree, I just think getting one of a teams top 10 prospects for Reed isn't out of the question.

and IMO that would be a similar return.

Mets gave up Casey Meisner for Clippard and Reed is probably better than Clippard and I don't remember exactly where Meisner was slotted in the mets top prospects, but he was also 20 years old.

If the Mets get a 20 year top 10-ish prospect for Reed (not top 10 in baseball, top 10 for a team) I'd think that's fair and similar.

And I'd then hope the Mets re-sign Reed.
PJ  
DanMetroMan : 7/20/2017 12:32 pm : link
no disagreement here. They should be able to land a top 10 prospect for Reed. I just think the reaction to "4 prospects" is a little much. The Mets could trade 10 "prospects" in a deal and still not give up much. Hernandez is the best piece they gave up and he's 19 and very, very far away.
Reed is only 28  
Metnut : 7/20/2017 12:33 pm : link
so would be nice to re-sign but I'm not sure keeping him really enhances our chances that much.
Another bomb for  
Metnut : 7/20/2017 1:04 pm : link
Duda today.
I'd like to see  
Metnut : 7/20/2017 1:05 pm : link
a top 4-7 prospect for Reed from a solid system or a top 3-5 prospect from a weaker system. Maybe a prospect that's somewhere in the top 125-175 in MLB?
Heyman says  
feelflows : 7/20/2017 1:25 pm : link
"Some believe they (Cleveland Indians) could become interested in Jay Bruce, whos having a terrific season in New York."

also.. has anyone ever noticed what a Mets hater Heyman is? Even during their WS run 2 years ago. I know he was a Newsday(??) beat writer. Did they wrong him??
I  
DanMetroMan : 7/20/2017 1:33 pm : link
would love to deal Bruce to Cleveland but they DO have 3 lefty hitting OF's so it's a tough fit. They do have some solid prospects.
TJ Rivera  
feelflows : 7/20/2017 1:52 pm : link
is obviously not a 3B
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arcarsenal : 7/20/2017 1:54 pm : link
Lugo looks like a guy who can definitely be a solution. I thought Gsellman was going to be the better of the two, but Lugo has been pretty damn impressive.
,  
DanMetroMan : 7/20/2017 2:00 pm : link
Ask for Michael Chavis from Boston, they have Devers so might be willing to move him #Mets
If Lugo puts up  
Metnut : 7/20/2017 2:00 pm : link
another good start or two before the deadline, I wonder if he's someone a team like the Brewers, Indians or Yankees (maybe with Duda) might be willing to pay for at the deadline.

Of course, given the health of our pitchers, we probably would need to keep him.
Next year  
brunswick : 7/20/2017 2:03 pm : link
Thor,DeGrom,Wheeler and Lugo = 1,2,4 and 5. I would deal Matz and look for a middle of the rotation SP
RE: If Lugo puts up  
spike : 7/20/2017 2:11 pm : link
In comment 13533485 Metnut said:
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another good start or two before the deadline, I wonder if he's someone a team like the Brewers, Indians or Yankees (maybe with Duda) might be willing to pay for at the deadline.

Of course, given the health of our pitchers, we probably would need to keep him.


His partially torn UCL will scare many teams away
regarding Rivera  
feelflows : 7/20/2017 2:16 pm : link
he obviously doesn't have the arm for 3B.. why not put him at 2B?

Put Cabrera at 3B?

Seems to make sense.
RE: I  
Eric on Li : 7/20/2017 2:20 pm : link
In comment 13533440 DanMetroMan said:
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would love to deal Bruce to Cleveland but they DO have 3 lefty hitting OF's so it's a tough fit. They do have some solid prospects.


I wonder what we'd have to add to get Mejia. Are they also in the market for relievers? Would adding Reed hold any value? TDA?
RE: regarding Rivera  
Metnut : 7/20/2017 2:22 pm : link
In comment 13533516 feelflows said:
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he obviously doesn't have the arm for 3B.. why not put him at 2B?

Put Cabrera at 3B?

Seems to make sense.


Rivera played a solid 2B down the stretch during last year's playoff run. Would be great to see what we have with him for the rest of this season after the deadline. Hopefully they don't give Walker all of those ABs (after the deadline).
this bullpen looks  
feelflows : 7/20/2017 2:22 pm : link
like it could use Bowman.

looked pretty good.
RE: RE: I  
DanMetroMan : 7/20/2017 2:27 pm : link
In comment 13533526 Eric on Li said:
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would love to deal Bruce to Cleveland but they DO have 3 lefty hitting OF's so it's a tough fit. They do have some solid prospects.



I wonder what we'd have to add to get Mejia. Are they also in the market for relievers? Would adding Reed hold any value? TDA?



Untouchable. Absolutely no way the Mets would be able to add Mejia sans moving DeGrom.
Indians  
DanMetroMan : 7/20/2017 2:29 pm : link
BP is #2 in baseball behind the Dodgers. Who knows? Maybe they would have interest in bolstering it further but Mejia will not be traded for anything the Mets have to offer. He'd be the best prospect traded at the deadline. 0.00% chance, not even worth thinking about.
For  
DanMetroMan : 7/20/2017 2:31 pm : link
context BP just ranked Mejia the #3 prospect in baseball
Yeah just saw him at #8 in Law's most recent rankings  
Eric on Li : 7/20/2017 2:34 pm : link
was hoping he was more in the range of Rutherford but I guess he's closer to Moncada.
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DanMetroMan : 7/20/2017 2:35 pm : link
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Per source, Brewers among a half dozen teams to show interest in Mets most valuable trade chip Addison Reed:
Flores ties game with HR  
feelflows : 7/20/2017 2:38 pm : link
time to bench him more.

need to keep  
JayBinQueens : 7/20/2017 2:58 pm : link
TJ's bat in the lineup
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arcarsenal : 7/20/2017 2:59 pm : link
Mets win!

We're fuckin' back baby!

Wooooooooo

Time to be buyers
Nice to get the win  
Metnut : 7/20/2017 3:00 pm : link
today. 4-3 vs COL and STL. Let's sweep OAK and make things hard on Sandy.
Cards  
feelflows : 7/20/2017 3:00 pm : link
have some serious defensive problems.
Cards should also be  
Metnut : 7/20/2017 3:04 pm : link
sellers. First time in a while they'll likely miss the playoffs in back to back years.
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DanMetroMan : 7/20/2017 3:37 pm : link
Bruce and Cabrera for Chang and Allen. Do it.
DeGrom is our Tom Seaver 2.0  
spike : 7/20/2017 3:37 pm : link
Don't trade Tom Seaver again, Mets.
RE: DeGrom is our Tom Seaver 2.0  
DanMetroMan : 7/20/2017 3:39 pm : link
In comment 13533693 spike said:
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Don't trade Tom Seaver again, Mets.


DeGrom won't be traded.
RE: DeGrom is our Tom Seaver 2.0  
Jay on the Island : 7/20/2017 3:44 pm : link
In comment 13533693 spike said:
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Don't trade Tom Seaver again, Mets.

The Mets won't trade their most durable SP. If they want to have any chance of competing next season they will need Degrom.
OJ is freed  
spike : 7/20/2017 3:46 pm : link
before Amed. Unbelievable.
Just because Mets  
spike : 7/20/2017 3:48 pm : link
Tough blow here: Mets' No. 4 prospect Thomas Szapucki underwent Tommy John surgery in New York City. He was 1-2 with a 2.79 ERA at Columbia.
mets have to many 2nd basemen and no 3rd baseman  
spike : 7/20/2017 3:56 pm : link
Flo, TJ, Cheech are all second baseman.

Good thing we traded Dilson Herrera, whos been alright for Cinci
RE: Just because Mets  
gmen9892 : 7/20/2017 3:59 pm : link
In comment 13533715 spike said:
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Tough blow here: Mets' No. 4 prospect Thomas Szapucki underwent Tommy John surgery in New York City. He was 1-2 with a 2.79 ERA at Columbia.


I was waiting to hear more about the injury after he got pulled the other week. Figured that this was going to be the case, but it still sucks. Should be ready by 2020 though. Just in time for when some of the current crop leaves.
RE: mets have to many 2nd basemen and no 3rd baseman  
Jay on the Island : 7/20/2017 5:48 pm : link
In comment 13533741 spike said:
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Flo, TJ, Cheech are all second baseman.

Good thing we traded Dilson Herrera, whos been alright for Cinci

Herrera hasn't played in the majors for Cincy.
Bruce in the Daily News  
feelflows : 7/21/2017 8:43 am : link
If they have the chance to make their organization better by trading me, they would be crazy not to do it, Bruce said. I know that they have to look out for their future here. I expect they will do that if they have the chance. I know what can happen.
RE: I've never big a big Duda fan  
feelflows : 7/21/2017 9:01 am : link
In comment 13533224 Shecky said:
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But be also always been what felt like the lone Dom fan. So take any optimism I have regarding him with a grain of salt. Since he's near promotion, and Flexen is being Flexen, the next guy I annoy everyone around here with is Alonso

And no, I haven't forgotten about a certain guy behind the dish. I'll always annoy everyone about him...


Shecky, Alonso is killing it. The kid has some power.

Crismatt is striking out everyone down in PSL
Lindsay  
DanMetroMan : 7/21/2017 9:11 am : link
went 4-5. Disappointing season overall but still has flashed some nice tools and has been better as the season has gone on. Upside is an MLB regular.

-2016 pick bonus baby Matt Cleveland has yet to pitch so he like Planck is likely hurt as well.
Still  
DanMetroMan : 7/21/2017 9:19 am : link
very early but early returns on the 2016 draft = yikes
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With guys getting hurt this close to when they were drafted  
Eric on Li : 7/21/2017 9:26 am : link
it would seemingly backup what Capone said about medical evaluations & willingness to take on risks. I have no idea how good/bad our trainers are, but 1 other factor that we shouldn't ignore is that athleticism has not appeared to be high on Sandy's priorities with players he's acquired, he's created a team identity around power, and that's a big reason why they've been a station to station, bad defense team for years. Rosario, Smith and Conforto create the perfect opportunity to transition into a different identity - hopefully management can learn from their mistakes.
Christian  
DanMetroMan : 7/21/2017 9:34 am : link
James is one to follow going forward. I think losing DePo has hurt. The drafts haven't been as good and the player development hasn't been as strong.
RE: Lindsay  
gmen9892 : 7/21/2017 3:44 pm : link
In comment 13534424 DanMetroMan said:
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went 4-5. Disappointing season overall but still has flashed some nice tools and has been better as the season has gone on. Upside is an MLB regular.

-2016 pick bonus baby Matt Cleveland has yet to pitch so he like Planck is likely hurt as well.



Hoping Lindsay and Alonso can finish the season strong and make it to AA next year.
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