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NFT: USMNT v. El Salvador - Gold Cup Qtrs - 9 pm ET - FS1

Del Shofner : 7/19/2017 3:39 pm
Altidore and Dempsey called in for the knockout stage.

U.S. ROSTER BY POSITION (Club; Caps/Goals):

GOALKEEPERS (3): Jesse Gonzalez (FC Dallas; 0/0) Bill Hamid (D.C. United; 3/0), Tim Howard (Colorado Rapids; 115/0)

DEFENDERS (8): Matt Besler (Sporting Kansas City; 42/1), Omar Gonzalez (Pachuca/MEX; 42/2), Matt Hedges (FC Dallas; 4/0), Eric Lichaj (Nottingham Forest/ENG; 12/0), Matt Miazga (Chelsea/ENG; 3/1), Justin Morrow (Toronto FC/CAN; 2/0), Jorge Villafaña (Santos Laguna, MEX; 9/0), Graham Zusi (Sporting Kansas City; 51/5)

MIDFIELDERS (8): Kellyn Acosta (FC Dallas; 11/1), Paul Arriola (Club Tijuana/MEX; 8/2), Michael Bradley (Toronto FC/CAN; 133/17), Joe Corona (Club Tijuana/MEX; 20/3), Dax McCarty (Chicago Fire; 10/0), Darlington Nagbe (Portland Timbers; 17/1), Chris Pontius (Philadelphia Union; 4/0), Gyasi Zardes (LA Galaxy; 34/6)

FORWARDS (4): Juan Agudelo (New England Revolution; 25/3), Jozy Altidore (Toronto FC/CAN; 104/37), Clint Dempsey (Seattle Sounders FC; 134/56), Jordan Morris (Seattle Sounders FC; 19/4)
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Is there a need to cap tie  
The Turk : 7/19/2017 4:00 pm : link
Gonzalez or does the one-time transfer mean he is effectively US only from here on out?
Why isn't  
Fred-in-Florida : 7/19/2017 4:02 pm : link
Cristian Pulisic (spelling) on the roster?
RE: Is there a need to cap tie  
Del Shofner : 7/19/2017 4:03 pm : link
In comment 13532642 The Turk said:
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Gonzalez or does the one-time transfer mean he is effectively US only from here on out?


This is per wiki, so I can't vouch for it - but it says "only the USA at the international level moving forward" -

On June 3, 2017, Gonzalez was named by Bruce Arena to the United States' 40-man preliminary roster for the 2017 Gold Cup.[7] On June 29, U.S. Soccer confirmed that Gonzalez's one-time switch had been approved by FIFA, and thus he would be representing only the USA at the international level moving forward.[8] On July 16, Gonzalez was added to the United States' 23-man roster for the Gold Cup knockout stage.[9]
Better win  
John from Atlanta : 7/19/2017 4:05 pm : link
this. I believe this team is far better then its showed.
RE: Why isn't  
Del Shofner : 7/19/2017 4:06 pm : link
In comment 13532645 Fred-in-Florida said:
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Cristian Pulisic (spelling) on the roster?


He's playing for Borussia Dortmund at the IC Cup in China. He drew a penalty against AC Milan last night.
RE: RE: Why isn't  
guitarguybs12 : 7/19/2017 4:07 pm : link
In comment 13532654 Del Shofner said:
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In comment 13532645 Fred-in-Florida said:


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Cristian Pulisic (spelling) on the roster?



He's playing for Borussia Dortmund at the IC Cup in China. He drew a penalty against AC Milan last night.


...and beautifully assisted two other goals :)
Jon in NYC is going to be pumped that Hedges is on there.  
Mr. Bungle : 7/19/2017 4:13 pm : link
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RE: RE: Great job by the boys

Jon in NYC : 7/16/2017 7:31 am : link : reply

Hedges ... was terrific.
RE: Is there a need to cap tie  
Pete in MD : 7/19/2017 4:24 pm : link
In comment 13532642 The Turk said:
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Gonzalez or does the one-time transfer mean he is effectively US only from here on out?

He can't switch back anymore. The same is true for Kenny Saief who recently switched from Israel to the USA and was supposed to play in this tournament but got injured.
both NYCFC and Red Bulls on now  
Del Shofner : 7/19/2017 7:35 pm : link
for an appetizer if anyone's in the mood for that.

Haven't seen Arena's starting XI posted yet, any guesses on that?
Not related but I figure I'll post here  
Go Terps : 7/19/2017 8:01 pm : link
It looks like the rumors of Neymar moving to PSG might be true. 222 million Euro buyout clause...wow.
Hedges starting in the back 4  
B in ALB : 7/19/2017 8:03 pm : link
Uh. Ok?
Hedges is good  
Go Terps : 7/19/2017 8:08 pm : link
I know he looked like shit the other day but I'd like to see him get another shot.

There is a future stud player playing for the Red Bulls right now. Tyler Adams (age 17) is a promising midfield prospect that today is playing as a right wing back...he's killing it at the position. Great 2 way prospect.
Also, a thought on USMNT's formations  
Go Terps : 7/19/2017 8:12 pm : link
I'd like to see Arena play with a 3/5 man back line between now and Russia. Some of our best players would fit nicely into such a system: Fabian Johnson, Pulisic (he often plays as a wingback for Dortmund), and Yedlin would all fit well in a wingback role. It would also complement Jozy's holdup play...it's worth mentioning that both he and Bradley play in such a system with Toronto.
RE: Jon in NYC is going to be pumped that Hedges is on there.  
Jon in NYC : 7/19/2017 8:20 pm : link
In comment 13532664 Mr. Bungle said:
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RE: RE: Great job by the boys

Jon in NYC : 7/16/2017 7:31 am : link : reply

Hedges ... was terrific.




I actually meant horrific lol. He was brutal last game.
RE: RE: Jon in NYC is going to be pumped that Hedges is on there.  
Mr. Bungle : 7/19/2017 8:31 pm : link
In comment 13532837 Jon in NYC said:
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In comment 13532664 Mr. Bungle said:


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RE: RE: Great job by the boys

Jon in NYC : 7/16/2017 7:31 am : link : reply

Hedges ... was terrific.






I actually meant horrific lol. He was brutal last game.

You typed it. You meant it. :)
channel surfing between NYCFC and Red Bulls -  
Del Shofner : 7/19/2017 8:32 pm : link
that narrow field at Yankee Stadium hurts my eyes - what is that, 64 yards wide? They can't play the way they want to play on such a narrow field. Red Bulls' field looks world class in comparison.

This is leaving talent aside - I think for NYCFC to move up they've got to get their own place, great as YS is for baseball, for soccer not so much.

Oh - and Toronto is good, even on the narrow field.
here ya go -  
Del Shofner : 7/19/2017 8:42 pm : link
24 Tim Howard
3 Omar González
21 Matt Hedges
26 Michael Bradley
16 Justin Morrow
15 Eric Lichaj
25 Darlington Nagbe
9 Gyasi Zardes
20 Paul Arriola
27 Jozy Altidore
28 Clint Dempsey
That field at YS is an embarrassment  
B in ALB : 7/19/2017 8:47 pm : link
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Is MLS not minimum of 70 yards like regular FIFA regulations?  
Gmen1982 : 7/19/2017 8:50 pm : link
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RE: Is MLS not minimum of 70 yards like regular FIFA regulations?  
Del Shofner : 7/19/2017 9:04 pm : link
In comment 13532853 Gmen1982 said:
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If it is, NYCFC got an exemption. That YS field is not 70 yards wide. It looks like 10 yards from the edge of the penalty area to the touch line. That would make it 64 yards.
here's an article from FourFourTwo -  
Del Shofner : 7/19/2017 9:13 pm : link
MLS claims it's compliant but it's obviously not. Peter Vermes says it's 68 x 106 but I question if it's even that.
YS field 15% smaller than normal - ( New Window )
anyway - game on!  
Del Shofner : 7/19/2017 9:16 pm : link
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geez - Lichaj -  
Del Shofner : 7/19/2017 9:18 pm : link
thank goodness for Tim.
Timmy  
UConn4523 : 7/19/2017 9:18 pm : link
what a legend
They  
John from Atlanta : 7/19/2017 9:26 pm : link
better wake up fast.
Glad the refs didn't bite on that dive  
UConn4523 : 7/19/2017 9:27 pm : link
.
ES playing with real piss and vinegar  
B in ALB : 7/19/2017 9:27 pm : link
Hopefully they wear themselves out. US looking a couple steps behind.
Hedges with another giveaway  
B in ALB : 7/19/2017 9:28 pm : link
He looks like caca.
Zardes not offside -  
Del Shofner : 7/19/2017 9:32 pm : link
just robbed of a goal there.
Ahh that's garbage  
UConn4523 : 7/19/2017 9:32 pm : link
one of those calls that's made because of how open Zardes was.
bad yellow on Nagbe  
Del Shofner : 7/19/2017 9:36 pm : link
- wasn't even a foul.
I'm quickly beginning to dislike  
B in ALB : 7/19/2017 9:38 pm : link
El Salvador.
Dempsey not looking that sharp  
Del Shofner : 7/19/2017 9:52 pm : link
so far. Zardes looks good IMO.
Dempsey never wants to make the simple play  
B in ALB : 7/19/2017 9:54 pm : link
He's always trying to add some Bullshit spice. You're not that good bud.
Gonzalez!  
Del Shofner : 7/19/2017 9:55 pm : link
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Great job by Bradley,  
Mr. Bungle : 7/19/2017 9:58 pm : link
and nice finish by Gonzo!
man, Zardes is our danger man tonight  
Del Shofner : 7/19/2017 10:00 pm : link
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Lichaj from Dempsey!  
Del Shofner : 7/19/2017 10:02 pm : link
Both redeemed for the moment.
That was an outstanding first touch by Dempsey  
B in ALB : 7/19/2017 10:02 pm : link
Great goal
Now this is how you  
Mr. Bungle : 7/19/2017 10:03 pm : link
end a half!
halftime 2-0  
Del Shofner : 7/19/2017 10:03 pm : link
After a bad start, I will take it.
Total Football  
Go Terps : 7/19/2017 10:06 pm : link
The fullback in the striker position, finishing like a striker.

Should be up 3-0 after acclimating the first ten minutes. Anyone think it's the same score if Klinsmann is the manager?
Ok, late goals, but  
section125 : 7/19/2017 10:11 pm : link
El Salvador finally ran out of piss and vinegar.

Up to Lichaj's goal he was terrible as was Hedges.

Zardes looks excellent - quick and great ball control and passes - so far the best player on the US side. Nagbe - same. Bradley looks good back where he is now. Morrow looks pretty good too.

El Salvador with a hatchet job all night on Altidore. (as well as every other player)

Nagbe's yellow was a bad call - borderline at best.

Gonzalez playing very well.
RE: Total Football  
Jon in NYC : 7/19/2017 10:12 pm : link
In comment 13532921 Go Terps said:
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The fullback in the striker position, finishing like a striker.

Should be up 3-0 after acclimating the first ten minutes. Anyone think it's the same score if Klinsmann is the manager?


With jk as manager Lichaj would have actually been playing stoker.
Timmy Chandler would be captain  
B in ALB : 7/19/2017 10:16 pm : link
Of the team if yergey was still around.
RE: Total Football  
section125 : 7/19/2017 10:18 pm : link
In comment 13532921 Go Terps said:
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The fullback in the striker position, finishing like a striker.

Should be up 3-0 after acclimating the first ten minutes. Anyone think it's the same score if Klinsmann is the manager?


A rhetorical question that begs to be answered with a resounding - NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
That's a Dirty Fucking play by Bonilla  
B in ALB : 7/19/2017 10:22 pm : link
He should be bounced. This ref is atrocious.
Side question -  
section125 : 7/19/2017 10:23 pm : link
Is El Salvador the biggest bunch of pussies you have ever seen?

Tough guys dishing punishment and writhing in pseudo pain on the smallest of incidents.
ref misses a red card on ES  
Del Shofner : 7/19/2017 10:33 pm : link
per the great Joe Machnik.
Jordan Morris coming in -  
Del Shofner : 7/19/2017 10:37 pm : link
for Altidore or Dempsey?
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