But I really think they are going to try to get him involved very quickly to scare teams out of the Cover 2 and open up things more for OBJ (and Marshall).
I think a good season would be something around 60-800-6.
but his run after catch and ball skills are what intrigue me the most. Given that a lot of the defensive backfield will likely be out of ideal position to make a play on him due to Beckham's gravity, I expect some really good numbers.
But nearly 900 yards as a rookie? That might be a lot to ask. Remember that even some of the best tight ends in history didn't even eclipse 500 yards in their first year.
I would be thrilled with 45 catches 600 yds and 5 TDS as long as his drop rate is good.
The thing that the last couple of TE lacked was making the big catch in the big spot.
That's what separated Boss, Ballard, Etc. They alway seemed to get loose on 3rd down and big moments.
I would be thrilled with 45 catches 600 yds and 5 TDS as long as his drop rate is good.
The thing that the last couple of TE lacked was making the big catch in the big spot.
That's what separated Boss, Ballard, Etc. They alway seemed to get loose on 3rd down and big moments.
Yup, if Engram does that with Shepard (slightly) improving on last year's numbers and BM surpassing Cruz's and Beckham being Beckham, this offense is going to score 25+ pts/game.
They aren't going to be asking him to line up on Hart's right shoulder. He'll get lined up against LBs and DBs from the slot or on the move. He's a ok matchup there. That said, I haven't a clue what his numbers will look like. Too many talented guys to spread the ball around to. However, he could be a really effective player with far less than those numbers.
If he is over on catches and yards, he's likely rookie of the year. Not that it is out of the question, but I would say that is the upper end of his production. My over/under #'s would be more like 40/650/5 TD's.
They aren't going to be asking him to line up on Hart's right shoulder. He'll get lined up against LBs and DBs from the slot or on the move. He's a ok matchup there. That said, I haven't a clue what his numbers will look like. Too many talented guys to spread the ball around to. However, he could be a really effective player with far less than those numbers.
Well if thats the case your correct. But then hes not a TE and basically an upgrade over Shep.
at times. If not, he's little more than a slot receiver. There's nothing wrong with that, but it diminishes his perceived value quite a bit.
That said, I think the blocking concerns are overstated. It's not that he can't block, it's that he's a little underweight. Even so, he's not going to be blocking DL one-on-one very often. He'll hold his own with LB's and will win more battles than he loses with DB's.
to know how to block, then the skies the limit. If he cant develop into a solid/average blocker, it will defeat the entire purpose of having a te.
Why does he need to know how to block?? Are you talking as an "in line" TE?? By all accounts he is a willing down field blocker. I doubt he will be used as an "in line" TE much
They aren't going to be asking him to line up on Hart's right shoulder. He'll get lined up against LBs and DBs from the slot or on the move. He's a ok matchup there. That said, I haven't a clue what his numbers will look like. Too many talented guys to spread the ball around to. However, he could be a really effective player with far less than those numbers.
Well if thats the case your correct. But then hes not a TE and basically an upgrade over Shep.
He's 6'3" 236. How many 6'5" 270 lb DEs do you think they are going to ask him to block How many 255 lb SAMs? Doesn't mean he isn't a TE. Blocking DEs isn't the only job that defines a TE.
On one hand, I don't think he's going to get a lot play early because he's not really a blocking TE and it's an extremely difficult learning curve for most TE in general.
On the other hand, I think he's a Beckham type talent and could take the world by storm.
I am not as high as most here about Engram.
I think a good season would be something around 60-800-6.
I'll go over those numbers especially TDs.
But nearly 900 yards as a rookie? That might be a lot to ask. Remember that even some of the best tight ends in history didn't even eclipse 500 yards in their first year.
The thing that the last couple of TE lacked was making the big catch in the big spot.
That's what separated Boss, Ballard, Etc. They alway seemed to get loose on 3rd down and big moments.
The thing that the last couple of TE lacked was making the big catch in the big spot.
That's what separated Boss, Ballard, Etc. They alway seemed to get loose on 3rd down and big moments.
Yup, if Engram does that with Shepard (slightly) improving on last year's numbers and BM surpassing Cruz's and Beckham being Beckham, this offense is going to score 25+ pts/game.
15-20 less receiptions
15-20 less receiptions
Dodge so who takes the 60+ targets that usually go to the TE position?
That said, I think the blocking concerns are overstated. It's not that he can't block, it's that he's a little underweight. Even so, he's not going to be blocking DL one-on-one very often. He'll hold his own with LB's and will win more battles than he loses with DB's.
agreed ... I'm expecting 8 TDs and him to be way over that "long" by halftime vs Dallas.
Why does he need to know how to block?? Are you talking as an "in line" TE?? By all accounts he is a willing down field blocker. I doubt he will be used as an "in line" TE much
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They aren't going to be asking him to line up on Hart's right shoulder. He'll get lined up against LBs and DBs from the slot or on the move. He's a ok matchup there. That said, I haven't a clue what his numbers will look like. Too many talented guys to spread the ball around to. However, he could be a really effective player with far less than those numbers.
Well if thats the case your correct. But then hes not a TE and basically an upgrade over Shep.
He's 6'3" 236. How many 6'5" 270 lb DEs do you think they are going to ask him to block How many 255 lb SAMs? Doesn't mean he isn't a TE. Blocking DEs isn't the only job that defines a TE.
With Marshall and OBj and SS, we spread them out and he becomes the under target....I don't think there are many LB'ers that can stay with him.....
He may not have high receptions and yardage per se, but I expect YAC from him, something we didn't get from our TE's last season....
I here Myles Garrett can pass rush - ( New Window )
On the other hand, I think he's a Beckham type talent and could take the world by storm.
700 yards
65 yard long
4 TD
"Molokai 4"!
I agree, with the offensive line being a question mark I would think the TE will be seeing a lot quick passes.