Eric, is that a consistently applied standard or an absolute one?
Here is why I ask:
I did not agree with all of the mans public service positions. I also often thought he was hyper vigilent about keeping our nation safe to the point of seeing threats I did not see and on the other hand seeing threats I did but the majority of America did not.
But he did know that this nation and its people have enemies. Some we deserve. Many we do not. Does not matter. We humans are more tribal than we would like to admit.
I never met him.
But I was quite self centered back when I considered myself in prison of sorts on a team several floors below ground assigned to analyze the output of the Soviet Union and when it go to its depots in nations and uprisings designed to drain us.
I am sure that some that work narrowed the range of time material showed up at ports and depots along the trail to kill my fellow young people.
I am sure that work narrowed the range and timing for pilots far away.
I am sure that when I thought I was in a dead end job, John McCain was out there thinking he was dead.
I am sure that when I got tired of the metal chairs we sat on, somewhere out there John McCain wished he could sit
I am also sure that there was another man working at night as well. He started by working in logistics as well. His job was to plan how to kill Americans. His name was Vladimir.
I find your remarks ones I would invite you to self examine
for two reasons:
1) We are all a mixture of great moments when we stood up and were counted. Good moments when we reflexively did as expected. Moments that were ok but self serving. And low life moments we try to self bury and rationalize. All of us.
When John McCains moments came...he answered in ways that would shame most of us. Respect is owed for the service and the moments of manhood.
2) I am not sure your guy knows what an enemy is if they have given him money. Neither do you. Until you do, I would not disparage anyone in public life as holier or better than the very flawed public life of John McCain.
I dont understand your policy about no political comments or threads, it keeps me away and I'm sure many others. Biggest news story since 911 and we can''t discuss on this forum.
I dont understand your policy about no political comments or threads, it keeps me away and I'm sure many others. Biggest news story since 911 and we can''t discuss on this forum.
Sure. It costs me a ton of traffic. But it's not worth the headache. The country is too polarized, similar to 1860.
I don't understand your policy about no political comments or threads, it keeps me away and I'm sure many others. Biggest news story since 911 and we can''t discuss on this forum.
JerrysKids,
If lack of Political Threads keeps you away from BBI -- why do you come here?
The fact is that this is a NY Giants football fan site, not a political discussion site, and political discussions here cause folks to have a lot of bad feelings and creates huge animosities that we can't afford to allow here. We strive for harmonious discourse.
I am not sure your guy knows what an enemy is if they have given him money. Neither do you. Until you do, I would not disparage anyone in public life as holier or better than the very flawed public life of John McCain.
take care
Wait, does this imply that Eric is a Trump fanatic?
I am not sure your guy knows what an enemy is if they have given him money. Neither do you. Until you do, I would not disparage anyone in public life as holier or better than the very flawed public life of John McCain.
take care
Wait, does this imply that Eric is a Trump fanatic?
Eric, is that a consistently applied standard or an absolute one?
Here is why I ask:
I did not agree with all of the mans public service positions. I also often thought he was hyper vigilent about keeping our nation safe to the point of seeing threats I did not see and on the other hand seeing threats I did but the majority of America did not.
But he did know that this nation and its people have enemies. Some we deserve. Many we do not. Does not matter. We humans are more tribal than we would like to admit.
I never met him.
But I was quite self centered back when I considered myself in prison of sorts on a team several floors below ground assigned to analyze the output of the Soviet Union and when it go to its depots in nations and uprisings designed to drain us.
I am sure that some that work narrowed the range of time material showed up at ports and depots along the trail to kill my fellow young people.
I am sure that work narrowed the range and timing for pilots far away.
I am sure that when I thought I was in a dead end job, John McCain was out there thinking he was dead.
I am sure that when I got tired of the metal chairs we sat on, somewhere out there John McCain wished he could sit
I am also sure that there was another man working at night as well. He started by working in logistics as well. His job was to plan how to kill Americans. His name was Vladimir.
I find your remarks ones I would invite you to self examine
for two reasons:
1) We are all a mixture of great moments when we stood up and were counted. Good moments when we reflexively did as expected. Moments that were ok but self serving. And low life moments we try to self bury and rationalize. All of us.
When John McCains moments came...he answered in ways that would shame most of us. Respect is owed for the service and the moments of manhood.
2) I am not sure your guy knows what an enemy is if they have given him money. Neither do you. Until you do, I would not disparage anyone in public life as holier or better than the very flawed public life of John McCain.
I support you on sticking to the no politics rule. This is a football site and who would trust anyone's political opinion anyway on a site devoted to a game in which large men beat the crap out of each other and throw an oddly-shaped ball, with these men killing each other around when they turn 40.
I support you on sticking to the no politics rule. This is a football site and who would trust anyone's political opinion anyway on a site devoted to a game in which large men beat the crap out of each other and throw an oddly-shaped ball, with these men killing each other around when they turn 40.
The bottom line is white people have spoken and they don't like Kaep
LCtheINTMachine : 7/5/2017 11:22 pm : link : reply
He deserves his fate because white people are the arbiters of what is right and wrong in American society. That's because we have been here the longest - please don't make it about race.
is a survivor/hero and though I do not agree with all of his various political positions, I have a lot of respect for both what he went through and his willingness to speak his mind in a blunt manner.
I come here to read and chat about the NY Football Giants, but I also like a good NFT. I dont understand the censorship, let people discuss. Were all adults.
I dont understand your policy about no political comments or threads, it keeps me away and I'm sure many others. Biggest news story since 911 and we can''t discuss on this forum.
Sure. It costs me a ton of traffic. But it's not worth the headache. The country is too polarized, similar to 1860.
I rarely visit another Giants-related site anymore mainly because of the toxic political discourse. You aren't costing yourself traffic, it's a net positive, I think. Because if this site did get overly political, I and probably others would peace out. I actually like politics and like political debate, too. But just not here.
is a survivor/hero and though I do not agree with all of his various political positions, I have a lot of respect for both what he went through and his willingness to speak his mind in a blunt manner.
Agree 100%. I basically agree with nothing that McCain ever said, but I respect the man for his service to this country both militarily and politically.
And even if I hate his positions, he's not an evil man. He's going through a serious disease right now. He deserves all of our prayers and thoughts.
Additionally, we need to eradicate this world of all diseases now.
I come here to read and chat about the NY Football Giants, but I also like a good NFT. I dont understand the censorship, let people discuss. Were all adults.
But not everyone acts like adults on those threads. That's the point.
I come here to read and chat about the NY Football Giants, but I also like a good NFT. I dont understand the censorship, let people discuss. Were all adults.
I guess you are new to BBI. The fact is that while we are all adults many do not behave accordingly on political threads.
I come here to read and chat about the NY Football Giants, but I also like a good NFT. I dont understand the censorship, let people discuss. Were all adults.
First of all, I'm quite confident that not everyone here are all adults. Secondly, there are a million other forums and websites that allow political discussion. This is one place that strives to be politics-free, and personally, I appreciate that. Why do you feel the need to talk about politics on an NFL message forum?
Eric and gidiefor have explained the reasons, and they are valid ones. There are people here right now that probably need the ban hammer because they are illustrating exactly why this site shouldn't be a place for politics.
I come here to read and chat about the NY Football Giants, but I also like a good NFT. I dont understand the censorship, let people discuss. Were all adults.
I guess you are new to BBI. The fact is that while we are all adults many do not behave accordingly on political threads.
The thing is... this very thread kind of proves my point. Some folks nowadays deal with left/right, liberal/conservative bullshit (which is exactly what it is) that it appears some have forgotten how to be decent to one another. It's sad and stuff you'd expect from a child.
I dont remember who posted it but it didnt last much longer after that.
It doesn't matter one way or another but you did start the thread...
...
Fockin' boolshit, is what it is ... - ( New Window )
Here is why I ask:
I did not agree with all of the mans public service positions. I also often thought he was hyper vigilent about keeping our nation safe to the point of seeing threats I did not see and on the other hand seeing threats I did but the majority of America did not.
But he did know that this nation and its people have enemies. Some we deserve. Many we do not. Does not matter. We humans are more tribal than we would like to admit.
I never met him.
But I was quite self centered back when I considered myself in prison of sorts on a team several floors below ground assigned to analyze the output of the Soviet Union and when it go to its depots in nations and uprisings designed to drain us.
I am sure that some that work narrowed the range of time material showed up at ports and depots along the trail to kill my fellow young people.
I am sure that work narrowed the range and timing for pilots far away.
I am sure that when I thought I was in a dead end job, John McCain was out there thinking he was dead.
I am sure that when I got tired of the metal chairs we sat on, somewhere out there John McCain wished he could sit
I am also sure that there was another man working at night as well. He started by working in logistics as well. His job was to plan how to kill Americans. His name was Vladimir.
I find your remarks ones I would invite you to self examine
for two reasons:
1) We are all a mixture of great moments when we stood up and were counted. Good moments when we reflexively did as expected. Moments that were ok but self serving. And low life moments we try to self bury and rationalize. All of us.
When John McCains moments came...he answered in ways that would shame most of us. Respect is owed for the service and the moments of manhood.
2) I am not sure your guy knows what an enemy is if they have given him money. Neither do you. Until you do, I would not disparage anyone in public life as holier or better than the very flawed public life of John McCain.
take care
We have crossed a line in this society that is very sad.
We are all Americans and want the best for our country but have different ideas on how to get there.
Respect the effort.
And that thread spiraled out of control. Did you see the second to last post before it got deleted? Apparently not.
The process and the people swirling around it are corrosive and often degrees of corrupt.
We don't see and often only know later which hero's have feet of clay and which will suddenly stand when it counts.
Carl Winzlow forgives you.
Sure. It costs me a ton of traffic. But it's not worth the headache. The country is too polarized, similar to 1860.
JerrysKids,
If lack of Political Threads keeps you away from BBI -- why do you come here?
The fact is that this is a NY Giants football fan site, not a political discussion site, and political discussions here cause folks to have a lot of bad feelings and creates huge animosities that we can't afford to allow here. We strive for harmonious discourse.
take care
Wait, does this imply that Eric is a Trump fanatic?
Quote:
I am not sure your guy knows what an enemy is if they have given him money. Neither do you. Until you do, I would not disparage anyone in public life as holier or better than the very flawed public life of John McCain.
take care
Wait, does this imply that Eric is a Trump fanatic?
That's exactly what he is.
Nice!
Here is why I ask:
I did not agree with all of the mans public service positions. I also often thought he was hyper vigilent about keeping our nation safe to the point of seeing threats I did not see and on the other hand seeing threats I did but the majority of America did not.
But he did know that this nation and its people have enemies. Some we deserve. Many we do not. Does not matter. We humans are more tribal than we would like to admit.
I never met him.
But I was quite self centered back when I considered myself in prison of sorts on a team several floors below ground assigned to analyze the output of the Soviet Union and when it go to its depots in nations and uprisings designed to drain us.
I am sure that some that work narrowed the range of time material showed up at ports and depots along the trail to kill my fellow young people.
I am sure that work narrowed the range and timing for pilots far away.
I am sure that when I thought I was in a dead end job, John McCain was out there thinking he was dead.
I am sure that when I got tired of the metal chairs we sat on, somewhere out there John McCain wished he could sit
I am also sure that there was another man working at night as well. He started by working in logistics as well. His job was to plan how to kill Americans. His name was Vladimir.
I find your remarks ones I would invite you to self examine
for two reasons:
1) We are all a mixture of great moments when we stood up and were counted. Good moments when we reflexively did as expected. Moments that were ok but self serving. And low life moments we try to self bury and rationalize. All of us.
When John McCains moments came...he answered in ways that would shame most of us. Respect is owed for the service and the moments of manhood.
2) I am not sure your guy knows what an enemy is if they have given him money. Neither do you. Until you do, I would not disparage anyone in public life as holier or better than the very flawed public life of John McCain.
take care
Love this guy.
I too have come to strongly prefer BBI as a no-politics zone, and certainly wouldn't want to break that rule. Apologies if I offended.
Oh look, it's another dirtbag.
LCtheINTMachine : 7/5/2017 11:22 pm : link : reply
He deserves his fate because white people are the arbiters of what is right and wrong in American society. That's because we have been here the longest - please don't make it about race.
I too have come to strongly prefer BBI as a no-politics zone, and certainly wouldn't want to break that rule. Apologies if I offended.
No worries. But when the follow up comment (not yours)is "that's exactly what he is" my reaction is "Oh shit, here we go again".
What did Brett and Filthy say?
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I dont understand your policy about no political comments or threads, it keeps me away and I'm sure many others. Biggest news story since 911 and we can''t discuss on this forum.
Sure. It costs me a ton of traffic. But it's not worth the headache. The country is too polarized, similar to 1860.
I rarely visit another Giants-related site anymore mainly because of the toxic political discourse. You aren't costing yourself traffic, it's a net positive, I think. Because if this site did get overly political, I and probably others would peace out. I actually like politics and like political debate, too. But just not here.
Agree 100%. I basically agree with nothing that McCain ever said, but I respect the man for his service to this country both militarily and politically.
And even if I hate his positions, he's not an evil man. He's going through a serious disease right now. He deserves all of our prayers and thoughts.
Additionally, we need to eradicate this world of all diseases now.
But not everyone acts like adults on those threads. That's the point.
Quote:
with that word choice, as I didn't believe it was the case.
I too have come to strongly prefer BBI as a no-politics zone, and certainly wouldn't want to break that rule. Apologies if I offended.
No worries. But when the follow up comment (not yours)is "that's exactly what he is" my reaction is "Oh shit, here we go again".
Someone asked a question, and I answered it. For fuck's sake, it's not like Eric goes out of his way to hide it.
I guess you are new to BBI. The fact is that while we are all adults many do not behave accordingly on political threads.
First of all, I'm quite confident that not everyone here are all adults. Secondly, there are a million other forums and websites that allow political discussion. This is one place that strives to be politics-free, and personally, I appreciate that. Why do you feel the need to talk about politics on an NFL message forum?
Eric and gidiefor have explained the reasons, and they are valid ones. There are people here right now that probably need the ban hammer because they are illustrating exactly why this site shouldn't be a place for politics.
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comment about McCain was deplorable.
What did Brett and Filthy say?
Terrible, horrible, no good things. Mostly about the Knicks though.
Quote:
I come here to read and chat about the NY Football Giants, but I also like a good NFT. I dont understand the censorship, let people discuss. Were all adults.
I guess you are new to BBI. The fact is that while we are all adults many do not behave accordingly on political threads.
The thing is... this very thread kind of proves my point. Some folks nowadays deal with left/right, liberal/conservative bullshit (which is exactly what it is) that it appears some have forgotten how to be decent to one another. It's sad and stuff you'd expect from a child.
GiantFilthy and Brett were unbanned.
Others who have been banned in the past have be re-instated if they agree to cooperate. (We get grief for reinstatements all of the time).