NFT: Question for the mods: How does a poster become unbanned?

is the poster a him or a her?

of FilmGiant?

your answer to this will go a long way in determining the length of the ban.

...I forget why though! I do know that after pleading my case to Eric, I got reinstated pretty quickly and easily.

but now the Eric "apology" thread is gone.

SMH.

Or be prepared and have a couple in case one is banned beforehand.

and promise never to misbehave again.

which I think Tommen outlawed, but Cersei is sure to bring it back

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In comment 13534866 BrettNYG10 said:

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There's nothing shameful about two men testing each other's strength.

even do to get banned? He's been a character and a presence on BBI for years.

and he thought the "ask for forgiveness and promise to be nice" part beneath his dignity. So he won't be back. He was not a multiple offender.

In comment 13534874 Moondawg said:

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and he thought the "ask for forgiveness and promise to be nice" part beneath his dignity. So he won't be back. He was not a multiple offender.

I had to do it. It wasn't so bad, really... I just went to my happy place until it was over.

but it's not that easy to get permanently banned here. What did this person do, was it a single 'error' or a long history of issues? More likely it was the former, and bringing them back may change behavior for a bit, but likely will just end up with the same issues. Can't imagine why someone that desperate to be an active BBI member would take actions that resulted in banning in the first place - unless that person can't really consciously control how they act on a message board.

Basically, anyone who got perma-banned is likely to repeat those same behaviors. Better question is, why did they do whatever got them banned in 1st place?

for the shit they spew on the internet. Thank you for that Eric.

As for your banned poster. BOO FUCKIN' HOO. He'll be a better person for it.

In comment 13534903 Cenotaph said:

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but it's not that easy to get permanently banned here. What did this person do, was it a single 'error' or a long history of issues? More likely it was the former, and bringing them back may change behavior for a bit, but likely will just end up with the same issues. Can't imagine why someone that desperate to be an active BBI member would take actions that resulted in banning in the first place - unless that person can't really consciously control how they act on a message board. Basically, anyone who got perma-banned is likely to repeat those same behaviors. Better question is, why did they do whatever got them banned in 1st place?

I'm not here to make a stink, but seeing how the bans were thrown around just yesterday, I would not claim that they are always judiciously applied.

It's a great question.

We're pretty lenient about letting people back as long as they seem to understand why they got banned in the first place and seem to cooperate. In fact, one of the criticisms we get is letting too many previously banned people back or allowing them to have new accounts under different names.

One of the more common issues we face is this:

Poster X contacts us about he/she getting abused by another poster, providing an example. We ask for a link to the thread. But the thread shows that both parties were actually guilty of escalating the fight to name-calling. Poster X may not accept his/her culpability in the affair. We'll ask both to cool it.

Time passes and poster X complains again. We investigate and see the same pattern (sometimes it will be poster X who started the name-calling). We raise this and the poster not only won't accept responsibility but starts lashing out at the moderators for being unfair. At that point, we have a problem... someone who isn't even going cooperate and see his/her role in the issue.

(Some of these people continue to read the site but will still send me hate e-mail even months or years later...those folks are not likely to be invited back).

In regards to the poster that I am referring to. I know dep accepts responsibility for his actions and I know he regrets his behavior and how he reacted to his banning, but he's a good guy. He's passionate and outspoken and slightly annoying when it comes to Eli, but he's a good dude and he adds value to many discussions. He has emailed you guys apologizing a few times and he's gotten no response. He's not the type of guy to make a dupe either. Any leniency here for the depster?

In comment 13534925 Keith said:

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In regards to the poster that I am referring to. I know dep accepts responsibility for his actions and I know he regrets his behavior and how he reacted to his banning, but he's a good guy. He's passionate and outspoken and slightly annoying when it comes to Eli, but he's a good dude and he adds value to many discussions. He has emailed you guys apologizing a few times and he's gotten no response. He's not the type of guy to make a dupe either. Any leniency here for the depster?

Are you Dep?

dep has been the topic of discussion of the moderators for a long time. We've cut him tons of slack over the years. For lack of a better description, he's proven to be terribly high maintenance. And he's terribly abusive.

BTW... my poster x explanation almost fits dep to a "t".

That being said, I know for a fact that he regrets his behavior and how he has treated the mods(yourself included). He's a good guy, he really is, he just needs to reel it in sometimes when he gets worked up. All I am asking is to open the lines of communication with him and let him aplogize. Everyone on bbi will be much better for it! Thanks for listening.

to be banned here and exceptionally nasty. So I think tough to those who have gotten hit with it.

That said, as a longtimer, certain posters seem to be grandfathered in. Not a big deal but it does happen.

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depper loses his composure sometimes but I think he's generally a good guy who was here to talk football and sports. We've had way, way worse parading around here if we're being honest. There are guys here on their 10th dupe.

I think he regrets his actions and has had time to reflect.

Not my site, not my rules, but I'd give him another shot to redeem himself. I know he feels bad about the way he acted and regrets it.

In comment 13534871 Metnut said:

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even do to get banned? He's been a character and a presence on BBI for years.

He probably went absolutely ballistic and personal on somebody for something slight.

Many of the more outspoken posters have been here a while, and/or have many friends on the site who will side with them, regardless of behavior. Very common to see 'Yeah, he acts like a jerk sometimes, but he's a good guy'. People rarely get perma-banned here for a single slip - it's usually a pattern where things escalate to name calling and that garbage. Some people can't avoid or back down from it - they get stuck in, continue to escalate and use profanity/attack posters, etc. Sure, these people may contribute to some threads, but they may also completely turn others off topic into childish name calling fights. It's tough for the mods in these cases - the posters themselves rarely recognize their own contribution to the problems, and often have a fair amount of support from long time posters asking for their return. But the patterns of why they got banned suggest it's unlikely these posters will come back and not fall into those same issues.

But his Mr. Hyde side was like a perverse point guard: he had a tendency to make everyone around him better at being an asshole. Like, I do enjoy posting absurd comments from time to time, but I'm generally not someone who deliberately posts things to legitimately make someone mad. But I did so with Dep just because it was funny to see how he'd react to something so relatively trivial, inert and non-personal.

be clear here with dep:

Again, we cut him more slack than most people... and we did so for years.

We repeatedly had to tell him to cool it, and he promised to change his ways, but couldn't do so.

He's not unusual. We've had others like that on BBI. Basically "regular" posters who some enjoyed, others hated, but who simply would fly off the handle on a regular basis.

If I listed the handles, it would elicit a mixture of support for the bannings and regret that the person is gone.

In most cases, we never say never and can re-examine at a future date.

An apology
Ice cubes
A gorilla (preferably stufffed)
A 9 iron
Lube
Signing a document declaring something called a Radnee is Voldemort
A donation

In comment 13534980 Cenotaph said:

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Many of the more outspoken posters have been here a while, and/or have many friends on the site who will side with them, regardless of behavior. Very common to see 'Yeah, he acts like a jerk sometimes, but he's a good guy'. People rarely get perma-banned here for a single slip - it's usually a pattern where things escalate to name calling and that garbage. Some people can't avoid or back down from it - they get stuck in, continue to escalate and use profanity/attack posters, etc. Sure, these people may contribute to some threads, but they may also completely turn others off topic into childish name calling fights. It's tough for the mods in these cases - the posters themselves rarely recognize their own contribution to the problems, and often have a fair amount of support from long time posters asking for their return. But the patterns of why they got banned suggest it's unlikely these posters will come back and not fall into those same issues.

Gary and gidiefor like to call them timeouts now, not bannings. Timeouts is a better word because most of the time, they are allowed back quickly.

With the new registration process (which is unwieldy but effective), we have 100 percent shut off spammers from the site. And most trolls don't bother anymore either.

In comment 13534988 Lawrence_Taylor_56 said:

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An apology Ice cubes A gorilla (preferably stufffed) A 9 iron Lube Signing a document declaring something called a Radnee is Voldemort A donation

Actually, a number of people who have donated have been banned over the years... and in some cases they immediately demand (and receive) their money back.

Dep Again.

Eric handled the donation situation the right way. So.....dep is back in now?

So you have to royally shit the bed to banned.

In comment 13535035 Joey in VA said:

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So you have to royally shit the bed to banned.

royally, but not literally.

a BBI mod parole board complete with, Gary in a Giants tie.

Who would take the time?...other than MiS of course.

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Dep would that get him unbanned? That's the least Eli can do for all the support Dep gave him over the years!

In comment 13535057 Tittle 9 20 64 said:

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Dep would that get him unbanned? That's the least Eli can do for all the support Dep gave him over the years!

lol

In comment 13535035 Joey in VA said:

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So you have to royally shit the bed to banned.

Joey, you were the ORIGINAL hothead. (grin)

In comment 13535042 Les in TO said:

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a BBI mod parole board

if the glove don't fit, you must re-admit!

Free Scott in morgantown btw

Yep tanked

where is bigbluebretheren these days??

Was a turd.

are advocating for someone and saying the "good guy" stuff. Eric has laid out a formula. If he is such a "good guy" he'll let some time pass, come back contrite and convince the mods that that is the case. I've followed the banning threads for a while because they are extremely entertaining we all get heated sometimes, I've gotten into some pissing matches myself over the years. But c'mon, to first stand out among people on the internet for being extreme enough to get banned, and then secondarily take it too far in the cream of the crop of those posters it doesn't matter how "good of a guy you are" you have emotional control problems.

The best thing you can do to help your friend is to tell him to get a handle on that and come back genuinely sorry and changed. All this lobbying through people makes him look even more emotionally immature. That's what children do.

In comment 13535099 NoGainDayne said:

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are advocating for someone and saying the "good guy" stuff. Eric has laid out a formula. If he is such a "good guy" he'll let some time pass, come back contrite and convince the mods that that is the case. I've followed the banning threads for a while because they are extremely entertaining we all get heated sometimes, I've gotten into some pissing matches myself over the years. But c'mon, to first stand out among people on the internet for being extreme enough to get banned, and then secondarily take it too far in the cream of the crop of those posters it doesn't matter how "good of a guy you are" you have emotional control problems. The best thing you can do to help your friend is to tell him to get a handle on that and come back genuinely sorry and changed. All this lobbying through people makes him look even more emotionally immature. That's what children do.

Why?

Because we've had posters here guilty of child abduction or whatever that scumbag did who were allowed to post for years.

We have people who are on their 10th dupe handle who constantly troll, add nothing of value, or simply exist to piss people off.

In comparison, a guy who loses his temper arguing about Eli seems pretty tame as far as I'm concerned.

I've honestly never had one bad interaction with dep in the years he's been here. We've disagreed on some things, but nothing ever got personal.

I'm sure he rubs people the wrong way sometimes, I just don't think it's fair that he's basically banished when it took far worse for others to get banned and less for them to come back.

Whatever. Again - not my site, not my rules- and that's fine.

I think he needed a timeout. He's served it, expressed regret for his actions, and has apologized.