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Kyrie Irving asked the Cavaliers to trade him in a meeting last week, according to @WindhorstESPN.
That Melo doesn't opt out next year. Apparently he is best shape of his life from what his trainer tells us. If he has a great year on a good team, is there chance he can get like 3 years 60 million from some vs. playing out contract at 35 prob coming off a worse year then next year looking at 1 or 2 year deal.
ball-dominant score-first PG. We've already seen Kyrie on bad teams. That movie ends the same way pretty often. He puts the Knicks in the same situation Melo did. Depending on the front office to build around him without draft picks, which they have proven they are not good at. Kyrie doesn't make them a top 4 seed.
Plus isn't it a red flag that he would rather not play alongside Lebron and go to the finals again?
RE: I'm not exactly in a rush to pay a lot to get another
ball-dominant score-first PG. We've already seen Kyrie on bad teams. That movie ends the same way pretty often. He puts the Knicks in the same situation Melo did. Depending on the front office to build around him without draft picks, which they have proven they are not good at. Kyrie doesn't make them a top 4 seed.
Plus isn't it a red flag that he would rather not play alongside Lebron and go to the finals again?
wouldnt knicks be in a better situation for the simple fact they have kp?
you would have 2 young building blocks with frank who is 18, thjr and willy...
someone would make the junp to new york to come play with them especially if lebron left the east..
RE: I'm not exactly in a rush to pay a lot to get another
ball-dominant score-first PG. We've already seen Kyrie on bad teams. That movie ends the same way pretty often. He puts the Knicks in the same situation Melo did. Depending on the front office to build around him without draft picks, which they have proven they are not good at. Kyrie doesn't make them a top 4 seed.
Plus isn't it a red flag that he would rather not play alongside Lebron and go to the finals again?
Yes, Kyrie is a shoot first PG, but I'm not going to hold the results of his first few seasons against him when his best teammates were Tristan Thompson and an ancient Antwuan Jamison. There's a sizable difference between that and an improving KP, an improving Willy, and whatever THJ becomes. The comparison to the post- Melo trade Knicks really makes no sense. The improvement the Knicks will make is with those 3 young players they already have.
If KP is as good as all the people on BBI swore he was when the trade rumors were publicized, what are we really worried about? If they're not a top 4 seed in the East, then KP isn't as good as many of you thought. One thing we know is Kyrie Irving can be the second best player on a championship team.
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Ramona Shelburne Retweeted Chris Haynes
Knicks very interesting. Kyrie is from the area. KP was already dangled...and Knicks could still do S&T with DRose
Seems to me like she just passed on someone else's tweet. You calling her dumb for that would be like me calling you dumb for quoting her tweet.
that's not what happened at all. Are you too dumb to see who tweeted what? Haynes listed Irving's preferred destinations. Ramona tweeted the unworkable sign-and-trade option all on her own. Always amusing when these clowns who get paid to cover the league mess up basic stuff.
RE: I'm not exactly in a rush to pay a lot to get another
ball-dominant score-first PG. We've already seen Kyrie on bad teams. That movie ends the same way pretty often. He puts the Knicks in the same situation Melo did. Depending on the front office to build around him without draft picks, which they have proven they are not good at. Kyrie doesn't make them a top 4 seed.
Plus isn't it a red flag that he would rather not play alongside Lebron and go to the finals again?
the league is full of score first PGs these days. The guy is 24 and is just entering his prime. You can draft in the lottery for years and never get a guy this good.
RE: RE: I'm not exactly in a rush to pay a lot to get another
ball-dominant score-first PG. We've already seen Kyrie on bad teams. That movie ends the same way pretty often. He puts the Knicks in the same situation Melo did. Depending on the front office to build around him without draft picks, which they have proven they are not good at. Kyrie doesn't make them a top 4 seed.
Plus isn't it a red flag that he would rather not play alongside Lebron and go to the finals again?
Yes, Kyrie is a shoot first PG, but I'm not going to hold the results of his first few seasons against him when his best teammates were Tristan Thompson and an ancient Antwuan Jamison. There's a sizable difference between that and an improving KP, an improving Willy, and whatever THJ becomes. The comparison to the post- Melo trade Knicks really makes no sense. The improvement the Knicks will make is with those 3 young players they already have.
If KP is as good as all the people on BBI swore he was when the trade rumors were publicized, what are we really worried about? If they're not a top 4 seed in the East, then KP isn't as good as many of you thought. One thing we know is Kyrie Irving can be the second best player on a championship team.
This is the second time you've done this and I still don't know why. You seem like you've got some kind of issue with people claiming he has a ton of potential. Which he does. He's also 21 years old. However good he's going to be, he's got another 4 years or so before he's like going to get there. He's good now. He's good for his age. He shouldn't be expected to lead any team anywhere right now.
Irving might be a score first PG, but he is one of the top PG's in the league and is still young. Its like if the knicks were interested in westbrook people would be like "he gets too many triple doubles". Im not saying irving is the best but pairing him with KP would be amazing for our future.
That said i cant see it happening. Even if you sent out Melo, Lee, and KOQ for Irving, whichever of JR/Shump Cle would rather trade and Frye i still think we would have to throw in at least a couple unprotected firsts and maybe even Frank. I dont think i could do all of that, but id prolly do Frank and a pick or two picks (maybe 2018 top 3 protected or something) but no pick.
And i get CLE prolly still turns that down, but i dont want to see the knicks put all their assets into one player again.
for the simple fact if you tank ypu hope that pick becomes a player like irving, so in my eyes you are adding that player a year early without the growing pains...
i also think having irving and kp as your pair with thjr and willy on roster you will attract a max guy...
now the qiestion is do the cavs go with hoping someone offers a young up and coming player for ircing or do they go fro a quick fix for next year and then implode the team the following year...
id be fine with Frank and a first or two firsts but no frank. Odds are though it takes all of that to get him (if cle even takes that). I guess we have to see who else comes knocking and what kind of offer they can make. The knicks at least have Melo to dangle as a win now player who will appease Lebron. Plus some other win now guys like Lee/KOQ and then young upside like Frank or WH and some picks.
Irving might be a score first PG, but he is one of the top PG's in the league and is still young. Its like if the knicks were interested in westbrook people would be like "he gets too many triple doubles". Im not saying irving is the best but pairing him with KP would be amazing for our future.
That said i cant see it happening. Even if you sent out Melo, Lee, and KOQ for Irving, whichever of JR/Shump Cle would rather trade and Frye i still think we would have to throw in at least a couple unprotected firsts and maybe even Frank. I dont think i could do all of that, but id prolly do Frank and a pick or two picks (maybe 2018 top 3 protected or something) but no pick.
And i get CLE prolly still turns that down, but i dont want to see the knicks put all their assets into one player again.
I am not hating on him. Fine player. Really good. How good? Playing with Lebron makes good players seem great and Lebron himself made it very publicly clear the Cavs needed a point guard / playmaker late last year.
Did we not all agree that an actual point guard was the best fit for the growth of this young players on this team? If you're going to spend a lot to get Kyrie (and you will have to) you'd better be sure that a score-first player who isn't really known for consistent defensive effort and nobody really knows if he's capable of elevating players around him since he's never done it is the guy that you want to pin your future on. Because what you will have to give up to get him is going to set the time frame back a bit.
Moreover, the time frames don't match up. The knicks are young. Kyrie is 25 (which isn't old at all). By the time the rest of the team develops and has expectations to win he's probably going to be close to 30.
Unless you think this team is one all star away, which, I don't know why you would think that.
So cle didn't want to trade Melo for love. Now they are trading love for Melo anyway and then Irving for Bledsoe?? I could see them trying to get Bledsoe and Melo but not for love. And I'm not sure pho can be enticed to move Bledsoe for frank and fillers.
So cle didn't want to trade Melo for love. Now they are trading love for Melo anyway and then Irving for Bledsoe?? I could see them trying to get Bledsoe and Melo but not for love. And I'm not sure pho can be enticed to move Bledsoe for frank and fillers.
Well the last line says picks being moved. I'm guessing Cleveland would be getting those picks. That, and maybe Cleveland is a bit more prepared to move on from Love than they were
I think it would need to be something like this....
NYK Get - Irving, Chandler, Shumpert
PHX Get - Lee, Frank, Frye + top 5 protected knicks pick (Hopefully)
CLE gets - Anthony and Bledsoe.
Anthony and bledsoe is not a bad return for CLE. PHX dumps chandler and gets Frank, a first, and Lee for Bledsoe and the knicks get irving for essentially Frank and lightly protected first. Obviously there could be some moving parts, but that seems at least close to fair. Now im not sure roster wise it really makes sense for PHX to get Frank and Lee so that might be where it all falls apart.
You think that with Irving this team would take 5 years to develop? Jeezus.
What teams in the NBA win with 21/22 year olds as your go-to players?
And what information do we have that Kyrie Irving is carrying a bunch of kids anywhere? As I said, you're giving up a lot to get him, so right from the start, you're going in shorthanded and with limited ability to construct a team around him early on.
This is the Melo trade Act #2, if what is being reported
is true. If the Knicks trade this years'pick (Frank can't be traded until Aug 5th) & next years, you're hoping that KI,THJ,KP & WHG will form a nucleus that will propel the Knicks into the playoffs.What it propels them into is mediocrity. Kyrie is a superstar PG but Melo was a superstar SF & if we do this deal,we're back to post Melo trade. I love Kyrie's game but unless we can do Melo,Lee & a 2020/21 protected pick for KI, I say move Melo for young players and/or picks in this trade or to the Rockets(w/3rd team)
RE: This is the Melo trade Act #2, if what is being reported
is true. If the Knicks trade this years'pick (Frank can't be traded until Aug 5th) & next years, you're hoping that KI,THJ,KP & WHG will form a nucleus that will propel the Knicks into the playoffs.What it propels them into is mediocrity. Kyrie is a superstar PG but Melo was a superstar SF & if we do this deal,we're back to post Melo trade. I love Kyrie's game but unless we can do Melo,Lee & a 2020/21 protected pick for KI, I say move Melo for young players and/or picks in this trade or to the Rockets(w/3rd team)
how is it the melo trade?
you giving up kp? no
you giving up thjr? no
you giving up willy? no
your giving up 2018 first? ok isnt ehat you hope for that pick to become is kyrie?
plus you dont think someone would want to come play with iriving and kp?
plus who was the kp that the knicms were pairing with melo?
is true. If the Knicks trade this years'pick (Frank can't be traded until Aug 5th) & next years, you're hoping that KI,THJ,KP & WHG will form a nucleus that will propel the Knicks into the playoffs.What it propels them into is mediocrity. Kyrie is a superstar PG but Melo was a superstar SF & if we do this deal,we're back to post Melo trade. I love Kyrie's game but unless we can do Melo,Lee & a 2020/21 protected pick for KI, I say move Melo for young players and/or picks in this trade or to the Rockets(w/3rd team)
how is it the melo trade?
you giving up kp? no
you giving up thjr? no
you giving up willy? no
your giving up 2018 first? ok isnt ehat you hope for that pick to become is kyrie?
plus you dont think someone would want to come play with iriving and kp?
plus who was the kp that the knicms were pairing with melo?
You make good points & I'm not against getting KI but I think we have to see how many picks they're giving up. Jordan Schultz say both Cavs & Suns getting picks along w/Frank going to the Suns & Melo to the Cavs. To me,way too much. You project that others will join but that song was sung during the Melo years as well & here we are today! By the way, the KP that Melo paired up w/was Stat-they were the dynamic duo,remember?
RE: RE: Why would the Knicks leak that they are willing to offer
is true. If the Knicks trade this years'pick (Frank can't be traded until Aug 5th) & next years, you're hoping that KI,THJ,KP & WHG will form a nucleus that will propel the Knicks into the playoffs.What it propels them into is mediocrity. Kyrie is a superstar PG but Melo was a superstar SF & if we do this deal,we're back to post Melo trade. I love Kyrie's game but unless we can do Melo,Lee & a 2020/21 protected pick for KI, I say move Melo for young players and/or picks in this trade or to the Rockets(w/3rd team)
how is it the melo trade?
you giving up kp? no
you giving up thjr? no
you giving up willy? no
your giving up 2018 first? ok isnt ehat you hope for that pick to become is kyrie?
plus you dont think someone would want to come play with iriving and kp?
plus who was the kp that the knicms were pairing with melo?
You make good points & I'm not against getting KI but I think we have to see how many picks they're giving up. Jordan Schultz say both Cavs & Suns getting picks along w/Frank going to the Suns & Melo to the Cavs. To me,way too much. You project that others will join but that song was sung during the Melo years as well & here we are today! By the way, the KP that Melo paired up w/was Stat-they were the dynamic duo,remember?
jordan shulz is not a source, he is never right...
and i get people being nervous because of the melo trade but as long as kp or willy are not involved i am good..
mentally banning any Knicks fan on BBI, twitter, reddit, my friends etc that are okay with any Irving trade that involves KP. Just thought you guys should know lol
mentally banning any Knicks fan on BBI, twitter, reddit, my friends etc that are okay with any Irving trade that involves KP. Just thought you guys should know lol
there would be no point to do that...
at least if it is melo and a couple of firsts you have irving and kp...
Actually at the time of the trade,Stat was 28,Melo was 26
ok and stat was 28 going on 35 and you had nothing else...
if you make this trade you have kp and iriving with thjr and willy
But the year the trade was made,Stat was a NBA stud-hindsight's always 20/20.And after those 4,then what? You want the trade. I only want the trade if they don't give away the house (Frank/2 1sts).Let's see how it plays out!
Actually at the time of the trade,Stat was 28,Melo was 26
ok and stat was 28 going on 35 and you had nothing else...
if you make this trade you have kp and iriving with thjr and willy
But the year the trade was made,Stat was a NBA stud-hindsight's always 20/20.And after those 4,then what? You want the trade. I only want the trade if they don't give away the house (Frank/2 1sts).Let's see how it plays out!
my deal is melo and a couple of firsts, say 18 top 5 protected, 20 top 5 pritected..
Seems to me like she just passed on someone else's tweet. You calling her dumb for that would be like me calling you dumb for quoting her tweet.
Retweeting something dumb is a conscious choice.
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Seems to me like she just passed on someone else's tweet. You calling her dumb for that would be like me calling you dumb for quoting her tweet.
Retweeting something dumb is a conscious choice.
Isn't that her new colleague? She probably respects him.
You're being very kind to Hardaway by placing him in that trio, but no doubt the future would be brighter than it's been in 20 years.
Who said to trade THJ?
Carmelo can opt out next year so he really would not be stuck.
Plus isn't it a red flag that he would rather not play alongside Lebron and go to the finals again?
Plus isn't it a red flag that he would rather not play alongside Lebron and go to the finals again?
wouldnt knicks be in a better situation for the simple fact they have kp?
you would have 2 young building blocks with frank who is 18, thjr and willy...
someone would make the junp to new york to come play with them especially if lebron left the east..
Plus isn't it a red flag that he would rather not play alongside Lebron and go to the finals again?
Yes, Kyrie is a shoot first PG, but I'm not going to hold the results of his first few seasons against him when his best teammates were Tristan Thompson and an ancient Antwuan Jamison. There's a sizable difference between that and an improving KP, an improving Willy, and whatever THJ becomes. The comparison to the post- Melo trade Knicks really makes no sense. The improvement the Knicks will make is with those 3 young players they already have.
If KP is as good as all the people on BBI swore he was when the trade rumors were publicized, what are we really worried about? If they're not a top 4 seed in the East, then KP isn't as good as many of you thought. One thing we know is Kyrie Irving can be the second best player on a championship team.
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this is a Berman level post:
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Ramona Shelburne Retweeted Chris Haynes
Knicks very interesting. Kyrie is from the area. KP was already dangled...and Knicks could still do S&T with DRose
Seems to me like she just passed on someone else's tweet. You calling her dumb for that would be like me calling you dumb for quoting her tweet.
that's not what happened at all. Are you too dumb to see who tweeted what? Haynes listed Irving's preferred destinations. Ramona tweeted the unworkable sign-and-trade option all on her own. Always amusing when these clowns who get paid to cover the league mess up basic stuff.
Plus isn't it a red flag that he would rather not play alongside Lebron and go to the finals again?
the league is full of score first PGs these days. The guy is 24 and is just entering his prime. You can draft in the lottery for years and never get a guy this good.
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ball-dominant score-first PG. We've already seen Kyrie on bad teams. That movie ends the same way pretty often. He puts the Knicks in the same situation Melo did. Depending on the front office to build around him without draft picks, which they have proven they are not good at. Kyrie doesn't make them a top 4 seed.
Plus isn't it a red flag that he would rather not play alongside Lebron and go to the finals again?
Yes, Kyrie is a shoot first PG, but I'm not going to hold the results of his first few seasons against him when his best teammates were Tristan Thompson and an ancient Antwuan Jamison. There's a sizable difference between that and an improving KP, an improving Willy, and whatever THJ becomes. The comparison to the post- Melo trade Knicks really makes no sense. The improvement the Knicks will make is with those 3 young players they already have.
If KP is as good as all the people on BBI swore he was when the trade rumors were publicized, what are we really worried about? If they're not a top 4 seed in the East, then KP isn't as good as many of you thought. One thing we know is Kyrie Irving can be the second best player on a championship team.
This is the second time you've done this and I still don't know why. You seem like you've got some kind of issue with people claiming he has a ton of potential. Which he does. He's also 21 years old. However good he's going to be, he's got another 4 years or so before he's like going to get there. He's good now. He's good for his age. He shouldn't be expected to lead any team anywhere right now.
That said i cant see it happening. Even if you sent out Melo, Lee, and KOQ for Irving, whichever of JR/Shump Cle would rather trade and Frye i still think we would have to throw in at least a couple unprotected firsts and maybe even Frank. I dont think i could do all of that, but id prolly do Frank and a pick or two picks (maybe 2018 top 3 protected or something) but no pick.
And i get CLE prolly still turns that down, but i dont want to see the knicks put all their assets into one player again.
i also think having irving and kp as your pair with thjr and willy on roster you will attract a max guy...
now the qiestion is do the cavs go with hoping someone offers a young up and coming player for ircing or do they go fro a quick fix for next year and then implode the team the following year...
Still confusing. Lol.
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i was saying id consider frank and a pick or two picks but no frank (preferable in either scenario something like top 3 protected for 2018)
Still confusing. Lol.
Oh, I think I get what you are saying. Either
Frank and a pick
OR
just 2 picks
Love and Frank to Suns
Kyrie and Chandler to Knicks
Plus picks being moved
This is one trade being discussed
Love and Frank to Suns
Kyrie and Chandler to Knicks
Plus picks being moved
This is one trade being discussed
This feel farfetched, but the Knicks would immediately become a playoff team ironically enough.
I always liked Tyson's game. I thought he got a bad rap here.
That said i cant see it happening. Even if you sent out Melo, Lee, and KOQ for Irving, whichever of JR/Shump Cle would rather trade and Frye i still think we would have to throw in at least a couple unprotected firsts and maybe even Frank. I dont think i could do all of that, but id prolly do Frank and a pick or two picks (maybe 2018 top 3 protected or something) but no pick.
And i get CLE prolly still turns that down, but i dont want to see the knicks put all their assets into one player again.
I am not hating on him. Fine player. Really good. How good? Playing with Lebron makes good players seem great and Lebron himself made it very publicly clear the Cavs needed a point guard / playmaker late last year.
Did we not all agree that an actual point guard was the best fit for the growth of this young players on this team? If you're going to spend a lot to get Kyrie (and you will have to) you'd better be sure that a score-first player who isn't really known for consistent defensive effort and nobody really knows if he's capable of elevating players around him since he's never done it is the guy that you want to pin your future on. Because what you will have to give up to get him is going to set the time frame back a bit.
Moreover, the time frames don't match up. The knicks are young. Kyrie is 25 (which isn't old at all). By the time the rest of the team develops and has expectations to win he's probably going to be close to 30.
Unless you think this team is one all star away, which, I don't know why you would think that.
Love and Frank to Suns
Kyrie and Chandler to Knicks
Plus picks being moved
This is one trade being discussed
i would hate tieing up money with chandler and noah, and cutting into willys playing time...
i am good with melo and picks straight up for irving but adding another high priced center kind of kills the youth movement
Well the last line says picks being moved. I'm guessing Cleveland would be getting those picks. That, and maybe Cleveland is a bit more prepared to move on from Love than they were
PHX Get - Lee, Frank, Frye + top 5 protected knicks pick (Hopefully)
CLE gets - Anthony and Bledsoe.
Anthony and bledsoe is not a bad return for CLE. PHX dumps chandler and gets Frank, a first, and Lee for Bledsoe and the knicks get irving for essentially Frank and lightly protected first. Obviously there could be some moving parts, but that seems at least close to fair. Now im not sure roster wise it really makes sense for PHX to get Frank and Lee so that might be where it all falls apart.
What teams in the NBA win with 21/22 year olds as your go-to players?
And what information do we have that Kyrie Irving is carrying a bunch of kids anywhere? As I said, you're giving up a lot to get him, so right from the start, you're going in shorthanded and with limited ability to construct a team around him early on.
how is it the melo trade?
you giving up kp? no
you giving up thjr? no
you giving up willy? no
your giving up 2018 first? ok isnt ehat you hope for that pick to become is kyrie?
plus you dont think someone would want to come play with iriving and kp?
plus who was the kp that the knicms were pairing with melo?
my guess cleveland leaked it
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Melo and 2 firsts in a Kyrie deal? Why start the market there?
my guess cleveland leaked it
My guess is that it wasn't leaked. This was just a guess by a reporter.
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is true. If the Knicks trade this years'pick (Frank can't be traded until Aug 5th) & next years, you're hoping that KI,THJ,KP & WHG will form a nucleus that will propel the Knicks into the playoffs.What it propels them into is mediocrity. Kyrie is a superstar PG but Melo was a superstar SF & if we do this deal,we're back to post Melo trade. I love Kyrie's game but unless we can do Melo,Lee & a 2020/21 protected pick for KI, I say move Melo for young players and/or picks in this trade or to the Rockets(w/3rd team)
how is it the melo trade?
you giving up kp? no
you giving up thjr? no
you giving up willy? no
your giving up 2018 first? ok isnt ehat you hope for that pick to become is kyrie?
plus you dont think someone would want to come play with iriving and kp?
plus who was the kp that the knicms were pairing with melo?
You make good points & I'm not against getting KI but I think we have to see how many picks they're giving up. Jordan Schultz say both Cavs & Suns getting picks along w/Frank going to the Suns & Melo to the Cavs. To me,way too much. You project that others will join but that song was sung during the Melo years as well & here we are today! By the way, the KP that Melo paired up w/was Stat-they were the dynamic duo,remember?
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Melo and 2 firsts in a Kyrie deal? Why start the market there?
my guess cleveland leaked it
Good pt on the leak. However, why would they make such a strong offer right away. It shows desperation.
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is true. If the Knicks trade this years'pick (Frank can't be traded until Aug 5th) & next years, you're hoping that KI,THJ,KP & WHG will form a nucleus that will propel the Knicks into the playoffs.What it propels them into is mediocrity. Kyrie is a superstar PG but Melo was a superstar SF & if we do this deal,we're back to post Melo trade. I love Kyrie's game but unless we can do Melo,Lee & a 2020/21 protected pick for KI, I say move Melo for young players and/or picks in this trade or to the Rockets(w/3rd team)
how is it the melo trade?
you giving up kp? no
you giving up thjr? no
you giving up willy? no
your giving up 2018 first? ok isnt ehat you hope for that pick to become is kyrie?
plus you dont think someone would want to come play with iriving and kp?
plus who was the kp that the knicms were pairing with melo?
You make good points & I'm not against getting KI but I think we have to see how many picks they're giving up. Jordan Schultz say both Cavs & Suns getting picks along w/Frank going to the Suns & Melo to the Cavs. To me,way too much. You project that others will join but that song was sung during the Melo years as well & here we are today! By the way, the KP that Melo paired up w/was Stat-they were the dynamic duo,remember?
jordan shulz is not a source, he is never right...
and i get people being nervous because of the melo trade but as long as kp or willy are not involved i am good..
Houston gets a tough C and a 3rd star in Love.
The Knicks get Irving and cap relief.
3 way trade HOU-CLE-NYK - ( New Window )
Actually at the time of the trade,Stat was 28,Melo was 26
there would be no point to do that...
at least if it is melo and a couple of firsts you have irving and kp...
just irving is pointless
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kp is 22
Actually at the time of the trade,Stat was 28,Melo was 26
ok and stat was 28 going on 35 and you had nothing else...
if you make this trade you have kp and iriving with thjr and willy
Knicks get: Kyrie, Chandler, Shump
Cleveland trades: Kyrie, Love, Shump
Cleveland gets: Melo, Bledsoe, Lee, Willy
Suns trade: Chandler, Bledsoe
Suns get: Love
Suns 1st goes to Cleveland. Knicks might have to include a protected 1st as well.
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kp is 22
Actually at the time of the trade,Stat was 28,Melo was 26
ok and stat was 28 going on 35 and you had nothing else...
if you make this trade you have kp and iriving with thjr and willy
But the year the trade was made,Stat was a NBA stud-hindsight's always 20/20.And after those 4,then what? You want the trade. I only want the trade if they don't give away the house (Frank/2 1sts).Let's see how it plays out!
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In comment 13535937 TheMick7 said:
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In comment 13535919 nygiants16 said:
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kp is 22
Actually at the time of the trade,Stat was 28,Melo was 26
ok and stat was 28 going on 35 and you had nothing else...
if you make this trade you have kp and iriving with thjr and willy
But the year the trade was made,Stat was a NBA stud-hindsight's always 20/20.And after those 4,then what? You want the trade. I only want the trade if they don't give away the house (Frank/2 1sts).Let's see how it plays out!
my deal is melo and a couple of firsts, say 18 top 5 protected, 20 top 5 pritected..
thats it...