If you could add 1 Giant from the past to the current roster

Of the former Giant who is not in the ring of honor. Jumbo is a really good option.

Or Ron Stone (a few pro bowls) if they counted.

I'd go with Charles Way or Jacobs. Get us those tough yards inside.

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In comment 13536262 John from Atlanta said: Quote: NFL, Strahan by a mile. Multiple pro-bowls? check HoF? check I think your day job has you working too hard.

Eh. Not any worse than when a guy says 1 player and people list 10 of them.

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Pick a giant from the past that never made a pro bowl or all pro. Some of the names listed earlier here made multiple pro bowls some were even all pro. Marshall, banks, bavaro, barber -- all these guys are great great players as far as I'm concerned. And they made pro bowls(s) ---those are easy calls to make. Many others are too. Find me the perfect fitting player that never made a pro bowl. Kinda challenging.

A guy that unfairly never made a pro bowl -- mark Collins but this giants team is loaded at cb. I think McKenzie made a pro bowl -- didn't he make it in 2008?? Just checked McKenzie made all pro 2010. Toomer never made a pro bowl but we are great at WR....

I'll go the sneaky route and take Andy headen. He was good enough to be a very good starter. He'd do just fine in this defense. Either hunt or headen whichever guy was better suited to shine in the 4/3.

Give Eli some time, and this offense will be lethal...

I believe that definition refers to plants...

adjective
1. lasting for an indefinitely long time; enduring:
her perennial beauty.
2. (of plants) having a life cycle lasting more than two years.

Tiki is not a plant.

It's tiki barber, and it isn't close.

Is a boraderline hof'er look at his total yards from scrimmage and consider that absolute crap he played with.

I know secondary is a strength but drc is getting up there and misses time. Think of sehorn jackrabbit and apple lined up together

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Why LT? He'd play where Casillas plays and he could blitz a lot; LT was dominant against the run; and, he could also cover with the best of them! You'd be adding a 1st Team All-Pro to an already stellar defense.

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need help on the line. he can play T/G

So he can step in for Justin Pugh when Pugh gets hurt again this year, and take over for him next year when some other team decides to give Pugh the monster contract he keeps talking about.

makes this current defense very tough to beat plus his leadership skills.

we could sure use a proven clutch kicker.

All-Pros.

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Lots of possibilities, but I think I'd go with positions of the most need. Not a star, but a solid, durable starter on decent lines for several years: Doug Riesenberg.

Top choice: Kareem McKenzie, but he was an all-pro in 2010, so may not qualify here.

I'd also look at Rob Carpenter, as he could help with the run game plus be a real threat out of the backfield.

A 24-year-old Tony Galbreath would be nice, even though he was older with the Giants.

Another non-all-pro who would radically help - Brian Kelley.

to add Jim Burt to this line.

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Spider Lockhart gone too. John Mendenhall was a hammer too.

Lockhart and Mendenhall both in the same post?

Must be from my era.

Did anyone say Brad Can Pelt?

Brad Van Pelt.

so perhaps he'd qualify. Imagine adding him.

Or Gary Reasons. Another fantastic addition.

Not sure I would go with line backer (or Defense in general) - I love Banks and Armstead and Reasons and Van Pelt .... but, all those guys played when the Giants were using a 3-4 defense. With the 4-3 - I think I would go with DL - Leonard Marshall, George Martin, .... hell maybe even line up Eric Howard next to "Snacks". Snacks and Howard would be one hell of a very strong interior DL.


any OL help - gets us to the SB or close to it.

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But nobody said Osi yet? There are a lot of good names brought up already. McKenzie first popped into my head but I am surprised Osi wasn't brough up. He would give this D exactly what it needs which is more pass rush and rest for JPP amd Vernon.

They don't need Osi as bad. IMO. You would pick a Osi to rotate in W JPP and Vernon over Leonard Marshall to play next to those guys? Or Armstead or Banks at LB. Or. T like Elliot or McKenzie? Osi is a good to have. I think adding anyone above would have a lot more impact.

Erik Howard next to Snacks and no one is running on us.

makes it really hard, because I'd go Rosey Brown, Jumbo, or McKenzie.
I'll go, ready:
Darrell Dess: stable LG
Armstead: always around the ball, quietly made good things happen.
Ard:1/2 Snee, 1/2 Seubert...just plain tough.

is the prototypical contemporary MLB who can cover as well as stop the run behind our excellent DTs.

I do not know whether BJ Goodson is quick enough for the modern game.

qualifies based on the criteria.

Eli would have loved playing with him.

A few:

Philippi Sparks -- very good corner under repped on bad Giants teams.

Rich Seubert -- very good OL addresses a huge weakness

Kenny Phillips -- upgrades the FS spot, maybe he doesn't get hurt this time around

Or Mendhall, although he might not qualify under stipulation. Too lazy to check.

It has to be Kareem McKenzie

would be the choice

is ALWAYS LT. Unless the QB isn't Eli or someone better. Then you add Eli.

Just like drafting. You don't do it for need. You take the BPA.

I instantly thought OL factoring in this current roster

I'd kill for Mckenzie or Seubert on this team. Mckenzie was so f'ing good.

In this day and age, he would likely play a game or two at the most before his season-ending suspension.

I might advocate here for Gary Reasons, just to throw another name into the mix.

but Keith Hamilton needs consideration

OV Hammer Snacks JPP ... yikes.

he only made one pro bowl in 14 seasons. he was a very good left tackle especially in the running game. would help keep eli's back clean and potentially open things up for tight ends and running backs in the passing game as he would require less help.

If they qualify. Pass defense would be sick. Mendenhal would be a beast.

Peak Barber with this offense would be insane.

Best thing for an anemic offense and great D

Just looked him up. 3 Time All Pro

OL is a unit, one replacement does not fix all. Brad Daluiso was a consideration, but not sure Rosas is not is not the same type. LB or FS would fill a need, but defense is stout as is.
A power back to complement the youngsters nicely.
Not counting CFL, Big Red had 2 Pro Bowls in 10 years, so to me, fits OP criteria.

(unless I missed it). 3 strong DEs won us 2 SBs so not sure why some would downplay it by criticizing the Osi suggestion. Tuck would keep JPP/Vernon fresher, provide a rush from inside, and could even play some 'base' D without them getting run over as JPP/Vernon/Snacks are all great against the run.



Also like the outside-the-box suggestion of Charles Way. Versatile FB that can catch some passes. I imagine McAdoo would use him much the way he plans to use Ellison.

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(unless I missed it). 3 strong DEs won us 2 SBs so not sure why some would downplay it by criticizing the Osi suggestion. Tuck would keep JPP/Vernon fresher, provide a rush from inside, and could even play some 'base' D without them getting run over as JPP/Vernon/Snacks are all great against the run. Also like the outside-the-box suggestion of Charles Way. Versatile FB that can catch some passes. I imagine McAdoo would use him much the way he plans to use Ellison.

I was thinking Carthon, but Way is more of a threat in the passing game.

Pettigout.

Not kidding either

I don't know what the parameters are but Mark Bavaro made the PB only two times. So I'd probably take him over Joe if perennial means more than two.

And honestly, I wouldn't mind David Wilson if he were healthy in this offense. That would be a lot of fun to see.

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Hammer next to Snacks would be great. Other votes would be for Jumbo Elliott and Jessie Armstead.

Keith Hamilton was a leader both on the field and in the locker room, something sorely needed on this team, we seem to have more prima donnas than leaders.

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Is a boraderline hof'er look at his total yards from scrimmage and consider that absolute crap he played with.

Tiki was an excellent football player and a crappy person....

you have to go Carl Banks #1. I would go Keith Hamilton #2 as a perfect fit next to Snacks. #3 I would go Antonio Pierce as he was more than a MLB. He was a leader and ran that defense putting us in correct plays on the fly. #4 Jumbo Elliott who could easily be #1 on the list except the other players are better IMO. #5 would be Kareem McKenzie who is very underrated as a RT. Would help our Running game big time.