NFT: Yankees reportedly ask Marlins about Giancarlo Stanton

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In comment 13536340 robbieballs2003 said:

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Frazier is really good but for Giancarlo, you have to make that trade

But the length of Stanton's contract is insane. Haven't we learned from A-Rod and Elsbury about these long deals? Short-term? Yeah, Stanton would be awesome. Long-term? Ugh.

I'm not against it if it means they can still offer a monster contract to Harper and land him but if it keeps them from making moves like that or for more pitching and you give up top prospects? No thanks.

Rather have Harper .

We need Lefty power to compliment Judge, Gary, Gleybar, Frazier


Yankees will make so much money off all those guys

Both Harper and Judge play RF. I am sure it wouldn't be crazy to move one of them to left but what happens with a guy like Frazier? No way he would ever play CF if it ever opened up. So, he would be pure trade bait? DH?

At the beginning of the year I was very much on board with Harper but that was before Judge was doing what he is doing. As much as I would love Harper on the Yanks I just don't know if it is a match. I could see Machado being more of a target.

I am fine with going after proven talent (hitters) and using some of these prospects to acquire better SPs too but I am just not excited about all these SPs that are currently available. Yu Darvish does intrigue me more than Gray though.

In comment 13536383 robbieballs2003 said:

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Both Harper and Judge play RF. I am sure it wouldn't be crazy to move one of them to left but what happens with a guy like Frazier? No way he would ever play CF if it ever opened up. So, he would be pure trade bait? DH? At the beginning of the year I was very much on board with Harper but that was before Judge was doing what he is doing. As much as I would love Harper on the Yanks I just don't know if it is a match. I could see Machado being more of a target. I am fine with going after proven talent (hitters) and using some of these prospects to acquire better SPs too but I am just not excited about all these SPs that are currently available. Yu Darvish does intrigue me more than Gray though.

I'm down in DC Metro area and a lot of fans think he could a solid CF.

If that is the case then I am on board. Trade Ellsbury for a bag of peanuts.

have to give up since they are taking on the massive contract?

i doubt this happens, but it's fun to speculate.

the next owners make that call?

In comment 13536426 bceagle05 said:

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the next owners make that call?

Maybe new ownership wants to be out of that contract before they purchase the team? Maybe it could be some sort of stipulation?

In comment 13536388 robbieballs2003 said:

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If that is the case then I am on board. Trade Ellsbury for a bag of peanuts.

Yes. His speed was something I questioned but apparently he has good speed and could play CF.

He would be a perfect fit in Boston

That's it. If Judge hinted he wanted out wouldn't every team call? Silly.

plan.

In comment 13536372 DennyInDenville said:

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We need Lefty power to compliment Judge, Gary, Gleybar, Frazier Yankees will make so much money off all those guys

I agree with this - while the Yanks have made the point lefty/righty balance is less of a requirement that in the past, we still need some lefty power - right now who can we count on? Bird proving unreliable so far...Headley and Ellsbury are due to be dumped...Rutherford was a few years away and gone now anyway...Hicks has done it for 2 months then got hurt...Gardy showing decent pop but he's not really the future anymore

Regardless of whether we make a run at Harper, the Yanks will need some lefty bats from somewhere

In comment 13536482 mfsd said:

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In comment 13536372 DennyInDenville said: Quote: We need Lefty power to compliment Judge, Gary, Gleybar, Frazier Yankees will make so much money off all those guys I agree with this - while the Yanks have made the point lefty/righty balance is less of a requirement that in the past, we still need some lefty power - right now who can we count on? Bird proving unreliable so far...Headley and Ellsbury are due to be dumped...Rutherford was a few years away and gone now anyway...Hicks has done it for 2 months then got hurt...Gardy showing decent pop but he's not really the future anymore Regardless of whether we make a run at Harper, the Yanks will need some lefty bats from somewhere

After trading Rutherford, Florial and McKinney are probably the most prominent lefty power sticks the Yanks have on the farm. And McKinney with be a Rule-5 candidate in December.

but not so much Financially. The contracts the team gave to Arod, CC, Ellsbury, and Tex has handcuffed this team for years, and to a certain extent is still holding back some of the team's younger talent. Harper is a great player, but his talent is not that much better than what the Yankees have to justify the stupid money it will take to sign him. Plus the day is coming when big $s are going to have to be allocated to Judge, Sanchez, and others.

In comment 13536496 Beer Man said:

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but not so much Financially. The contracts the team gave to Arod, CC, Ellsbury, and Tex has handcuffed this team for years, and to a certain extent is still holding back some of the team's younger talent. Harper is a great player, but his talent is not that much better than what the Yankees have to justify the stupid money it will take to sign him. Plus the day is coming when big $s are going to have to be allocated to Judge, Sanchez, and others.

what a load of crap. That "handcuff" is entirely self imposed

that contract is an albatross and he's hurt frequently. Rather continue doing what we are doing and spend that money on free agents.

Where would Stanton play? We have a pretty decent RF already. You want to pay a DH $300 million?

I'm not buying this for a second. Probably the Marlins leaking it to get other teams motivated to pay up

What I just posted is all but verified in the article.

"A source close to the Marlins...". Of course. It's the oldest trick in baseball. You want to boost a players possible return, convince teams the Yankees are involved

In comment 13536453 DennyInDenville said:

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He would be a perfect fit in Boston

I hope they do. Dombrowski is known to selling the Farm for big names vets and miggy has a giant fork sticking out of his back

Like I said on another thread, before I was shot down with usual girardi and cashman doom and gloom:

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SEATTLE — Joe Girardi intimated on Saturday that Clint Frazier has surpassed Jacoby Ellsbury on the outfield depth chart — and the Yankees will be much better off if it stays that way. “It’s tough to address a player that has had a really good career and tell him that you’re going with someone younger who has the hot hand,” Girardi said Saturday. “That’s never an easy conversation. But it’s the part of the game that you have to deal with. And the big thing is we’re not saying it’s permanent, but when (Jacoby) gets his chances, it’s important that he plays well.”

Frazier likely isn't going anywhere in a trade and he sure as fuck isn't getting sent down just for the sake of Ellsbury. Yanks aren't stupid.

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And that’s a problem for the Yankees, who would be best-served cutting Ellsbury loose when Hicks returns from his oblique injury in 2-to-3 weeks. Only it doesn’t work that way. Brian Cashman has said that when Hicks comes back, Frazier will likely be sent down because he has minor-league options.

That's really annoying.

Gotta find a way to trade Ellsbury. Eat much of the contract.

"Because he has minor league options". Brilliant. Judge has minor league options left too, why not send him down as well?

What a stupid reason to not have the best team on the field. "We will be a worse team while we compete for a playoff spot, but he has minor league options!".

sending a kid down because of options, but in this case it defies any logic. Take the bat out of the equation (which is a sizable difference don't get me wrong) the kid is a player. Every game he does subtle things that this team lacks- excellent baserunner especially going 1st to 3rd. He really hustles on D and cuts balls off. Everything this kid does screams out we need to see more of him even when he hits the inevitable rookie slump.

highly unlikely they can work something before the deadline. After the deadline they'll put him on waivers and he'll pass through of course then maybe they can do something with him. Cashman just needs to find a way that both Ellsbury and Headley are not part of the 2018 Yankees. Even if it means paying them to go away. I'm sure they can dump Headley if they pay a good part of his money. Ellsbury because of the no trade is much more problematic.

only an idiot owner would take that contract.

In comment 13536523 BigBlueShock said:

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Where would Stanton play? We have a pretty decent RF already. You want to pay a DH $300 million? I'm not buying this for a second. Probably the Marlins leaking it to get other teams motivated to pay up

either he will go to 1B or Judge to reduce the wear and tear on his knees.

Stanton is 27 who cares about the money. What do you think Harper is going to get?

would be the issue. Ellsbury would prolly be willing to go somewhere else if he's gonna be on the bench here. The problem is finding a sucker to take him.

The contract and the player and the position he plays run contrary to what the Yankees are trying to do. The Yanks are trying to get under the luxury tax threshold next season and it would be crazy to trade a bunch of young assets when they already have Judge in RF.

Apparently, they were scouting his start last night. He's a FA but will still probably be expensive. I'd rather continue the sell off than load up for short term. Ellsbury is the one contract we need to get rid of. I don't mind keep Headley as PH. Todd Frazier, Holliday i wouldn't mind DFA'ing.

has fairly poor stats the last 1 year.
Yanks don't need him, or Harper.Plus the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
Good enough homegrowns to build around Judge and Sanchez; if anything trade homegrowns for a starter(s)or Cash will = Dumbrowski(mis-sp. intentional)

But I'm fine with Darvish instead. Yanks were scouting him a couple days ago.

In comment 13536614 KingZ said:

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Apparently, they were scouting his start last night. He's a FA but will still probably be expensive. I'd rather continue the sell off than load up for short term. Ellsbury is the one contract we need to get rid of. I don't mind keep Headley as PH. Todd Frazier, Holliday i wouldn't mind DFA'ing.

The only way the Yankees will be able to trade Ellsbury is if they eat a large portion of his remaining contract.

In comment 13536552 BigBlueShock said:

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"Because he has minor league options". Brilliant. Judge has minor league options left too, why not send him down as well? What a stupid reason to not have the best team on the field. "We will be a worse team while we compete for a playoff spot, but he has minor league options!".

I still refuse to believe that Frazier would be sent down. Forget the quote I'm sticking to my guns. Frazier isn't going anywhere.

In comment 13536654 Jay on the Island said:

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In comment 13536614 KingZ said: Quote: Apparently, they were scouting his start last night. He's a FA but will still probably be expensive. I'd rather continue the sell off than load up for short term. Ellsbury is the one contract we need to get rid of. I don't mind keep Headley as PH. Todd Frazier, Holliday i wouldn't mind DFA'ing. The only way the Yankees will be able to trade Ellsbury is if they eat a large portion of his remaining contract.

That contract needs to go in the dumpster lol

In comment 13536659 KingZ said:

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In comment 13536654 Jay on the Island said: Quote: In comment 13536614 KingZ said: Quote: Apparently, they were scouting his start last night. He's a FA but will still probably be expensive. I'd rather continue the sell off than load up for short term. Ellsbury is the one contract we need to get rid of. I don't mind keep Headley as PH. Todd Frazier, Holliday i wouldn't mind DFA'ing. The only way the Yankees will be able to trade Ellsbury is if they eat a large portion of his remaining contract. That contract needs to go in the dumpster lol

I'll fucking eat it out of the dumpster if it let's Ellsbury go the way of Panda...

In comment 13536509 HomerJones45 said:

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In comment 13536496 Beer Man said: Quote: but not so much Financially. The contracts the team gave to Arod, CC, Ellsbury, and Tex has handcuffed this team for years, and to a certain extent is still holding back some of the team's younger talent. Harper is a great player, but his talent is not that much better than what the Yankees have to justify the stupid money it will take to sign him. Plus the day is coming when big $s are going to have to be allocated to Judge, Sanchez, and others. what a load of crap. That "handcuff" is entirely self imposed

Thus says the guy that probably has all of his credit cards max'd out and who has never balanced his checkbook

I'm sure the Mets would happily part with T.J. Rivera, Matt Reynolds and Hansel Robles for Stanton. Aw hell, I'd even throw in Lucas Duda and pick up part of the last few months of his contract.

You're welcome, Marlins!

And I wouldn't do it. It's jus the kind of contract that they have be looking to dispose of. And the lineup becomes very 1 dimensional.