NFT: Knicks chat: Houston out as assistant gm?

In comment 13537750 Strahan91 said:

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. Celtics radio guy - ( New Window )

the deal would already have to be done otherwise why would the cavs say no to another team making a. id if it could be a better offer?

In comment 13537758 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 13537750 Strahan91 said: Quote: . Celtics radio guy - ( New Window ) the deal would already have to be done otherwise why would the cavs say no to another team making a. id if it could be a better offer?

The only reason they might prefer to deal with the Knicks and not the Celts is that the Celts are a real threat now and the knicks are not.

In comment 13537749 Deej said:

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In comment 13537743 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: In comment 13537499 Deej said: Quote: Doesnt make a lot of sense to me. 3.5 hours is far away. There is no "drop in" 3.5 hour flight (each way). I dont begrudge a guy for not wanting to be away from his kid. But the POR vs. HOU thing seems like BS to me. He's willing to go to HOU to play with Paul, not because it is near his kid. If he was pushing CLE, BOS, BK, PHI, WAS I'd buy that a bit more -- those are places where you can get to NY fast. Seattle and portland are pretty much the end of the world, to be fair. OKC and Houston are quite literally half the distance. Flying it is 3.5 hours vs. 5 hours. Add in travel time to/from airport and waiting around pre/post flight and it's more like 5.5 vs. 7. It's not a very big difference. If his kid stays in NY, how many times more would he see his kid as a Rocket vs. as a Trailblazer?

His son is 10 (I think). Maybe he likes being able to chat with him after games and playing most his games on the West Coast would prevent that?

In comment 13537758 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 13537750 Strahan91 said: Quote: . Celtics radio guy - ( New Window ) the deal would already have to be done otherwise why would the cavs say no to another team making a. id if it could be a better offer?

Totally BS. I called him out on twitter and he got defensive. He suggested Ainge doesn't want to bother with talks "so far" down the road with the Knicks. Totally defies logic, then I said I guess we should hear a done deal shortly and he said these things can still fall apart... so Ainge would sit out negotiations on a deal that isn't close enough to being "done"? lol everyone wants their day in the sun.

In comment 13537785 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 13537758 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 13537750 Strahan91 said: Quote: . Celtics radio guy - ( New Window ) the deal would already have to be done otherwise why would the cavs say no to another team making a. id if it could be a better offer? Totally BS. I called him out on twitter and he got defensive. He suggested Ainge doesn't want to bother with talks "so far" down the road with the Knicks. Totally defies logic, then I said I guess we should hear a done deal shortly and he said these things can still fall apart... so Ainge would sit out negotiations on a deal that isn't close enough to being "done"? lol everyone wants their day in the sun.

this is my thinking, no team will tell another team dont make an offer already talking to another team unless that deal is basically done

In comment 13537783 giants#1 said:

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His son is 10 (I think). Maybe he likes being able to chat with him after games and playing most his games on the West Coast would prevent that?

You're overthinking it. Houston/OKC games end at 10 or 10:30 ET. He's not trying to push himself to an Eastern team.

The simple explanation is probably the correct explanation -- he wants to play with Paul and can be talking into Russ + PG13. Less so the Portland guys. The kid thing is likely an excuse (given that he's not trying to force himself on a north east team)

Breathe easier, Knicks fans.

and an upgrade over the animated corpse of Deron Williams

Not an offer that's good for the Knicks, but one that's really comparable to what the Cavs could get from others.

I'd say Hernangomez, Frank N., and an unprotected pick next year. I'm not crazy about that trade for the Knicks, but I can't see the Cavs settling for anything less than that...or likely even that.

In comment 13537957 yatqb said:

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Not an offer that's good for the Knicks, but one that's really comparable to what the Cavs could get from others. I'd say Hernangomez, Frank N., and an unprotected pick next year. I'm not crazy about that trade for the Knicks, but I can't see the Cavs settling for anything less than that...or likely even that.

if i am the cavs:

melo, willy and 2 1sts for irving

In comment 13537957 yatqb said:

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Not an offer that's good for the Knicks, but one that's really comparable to what the Cavs could get from others. I'd say Hernangomez, Frank N., and an unprotected pick next year. I'm not crazy about that trade for the Knicks, but I can't see the Cavs settling for anything less than that...or likely even that.

I saw somewhere today (forget who reported it) that they are looking for 2 veterans and a young asset. I'd start them off with an offer of Melo, Courtney Lee, and a first round pick. They would have to send back Shumpert and Frye's contracts to make salaries match along with Irving.

The only issue with them bringing in Melo is that the fit with him, Lebron, Love, and Thompson is awkward. They would have to find a new home for Love, perhaps they could send him to Phoenix for a package centered around Bledsoe.

If Lebron leaves and Melo also opts out next year they quickly become awful. To me they should ask for Lee, Willy and KP, but the Knicks won't go there. Perhaps substitute Frank N. and another #1 for KP.

(We'd sure have been better off keeping Lopez than taking on Rose and Noah last year, huh?)

Melo, Lee, 1st round pick (hopefully top 6 protected) for Irving, Frye and Shump. Lee could actually thrive in Cleveland and Melo could bring some scoring that they lose with Kyrie leaving. Frye I actually do not mind at all, he has one year left at about 7 million and is a good player off the bench. Shump is getting paid a bit more but still under contract for only two more seasons.

Does Melo and Lee plus a 1st rounder take Cleveland over the top? Probably not but at least they get an asset in return. I am not sure if this deal gets it done, they probably will want two first round picks or a 1st and Willy

Cleveland would be silly to give him up for an aging Melo, a decent shooting guard, and a #1. They likely can get a bidding war going between several teams and get a lot more than that.

I don't think we can top that, nor should we. I'd be willing to trade Frank, Carmelo, MAYBE a unprotected first, but that's it.

In comment 13537980 Anakim said:

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I don't think we can top that, nor should we. I'd be willing to trade Frank, Carmelo, MAYBE a unprotected first, but that's it.

Maybe the Knicks can get in on that:

Cleveland gets - Bledsoe, Melo (Maybe a future Knicks #1)
Cleveland gives - Irving, Shumpert, Frye

Phoenix gets - Irving, C. Lee
Phoenix gives - Bledsoe, J Jackson, B. Knoght

Knicks get - J Jackson, Frye, Shumpert, B. Knight
Knicks give - Melo, Lee, (Future #1?)

In comment 13537980 Anakim said:

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I don't think we can top that, nor should we. I'd be willing to trade Frank, Carmelo, MAYBE a unprotected first, but that's it.

suns would be stupid to do that in my opinion...

just keep building around booker, jackson and chriss...

they said they want booker to be like harden ball always in his hands, then why trade for irving?

In comment 13537983 Eli Wilson said:

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In comment 13537980 Anakim said: Quote: I don't think we can top that, nor should we. I'd be willing to trade Frank, Carmelo, MAYBE a unprotected first, but that's it. Maybe the Knicks can get in on that: Cleveland gets - Bledsoe, Melo (Maybe a future Knicks #1) Cleveland gives - Irving, Shumpert, Frye Phoenix gets - Irving, C. Lee Phoenix gives - Bledsoe, J Jackson, B. Knoght Knicks get - J Jackson, Frye, Shumpert, B. Knight Knicks give - Melo, Lee, (Future #1?)

Right teams, wrong trade:

Cleveland gives: Irving, Shump, Frye
Cleveland gets: Bledsoe, Melo

Phoenix gives: Knight, Bledsoe
Phoenix gets: Shump, Frank, Knicks 2018 no. 1 top 5 protected

Knicks give: Melo, Frank, 2018 1st top 5 protected
Knicks get: Irving, Frye, Knight

In comment 13537957 yatqb said:

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Not an offer that's good for the Knicks, but one that's really comparable to what the Cavs could get from others. I'd say Hernangomez, Frank N., and an unprotected pick next year. I'm not crazy about that trade for the Knicks, but I can't see the Cavs settling for anything less than that...or likely even that.

Here are the 3 assets I'm willing to move...

- Melo
- Frank
- PROTECTED 2018 first round pick (somewhere between 5-8)

There's no way I make the 2018 pick unprotected. I also would be strongly against giving up Willy.

blazers color guy saying the blazers are the 3rd team in deal

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watch us just end up with the harkless, Leonard, Hartenstein crap we thought we were getting a week or so ago.

In comment 13538035 Italianju said:

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watch us just end up with the harkless, Leonard, Hartenstein crap we thought we were getting a week or so ago.

Can't wait to hear people talk up Leonard and how he was a high pick...6 years ago. Blazers fans absolutely despise him. They talk about him the way we used to talk about Fat Ray/Jeffries.

HAVE to include Leonard, fwiw. They have plenty of other salary filler to make it work.

idea the origin but smoke that Ariza has been informed he's involved and coming here.

eply
[–]_Quetzalcoatlus_ 11 points 6 hours ago
Blazers fan jumping in on the top comment to let y'all know: Rice is our recently fired color announcer. He was let go because he was getting old and saying some wacky shit on TV. As far as I know, he's never broken a story before.
Maybe he's right, but I would take it with a grain of salt.

In comment 13538039 Jon in NYC said:

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HAVE to include Leonard, fwiw. They have plenty of other salary filler to make it work.

Just saying Leonard flat sucks. Blazers fans talk about him like he's truly garbage and 38% from the field at 7'1 is tough to pull off...If you can't get burn 5 years into your career you likely aren't very good.

him, but most assume they want to dump a bit more salary then just Harkless if they are going to take on Anderson. Who knows though.

Id be fine with Ariza coming here, we should 100% be able to trade him to a contender during the season. To be honest id rather trade him right away, but either way he is an asset.

we better end up with more then Hartenstein. EIther HOU is throwing in Qi and/or POR is throwing in another asset. If we get a couple extra assets for taking leonard im ok with that. Let him sit on the bench until we need the capspace and then stretch him. But im only taking him if we are getting more youth/picks to take him.

In comment 13538040 DanMetroMan said:

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idea the origin but smoke that Ariza has been informed he's involved and coming here.

maybe deal got completely reworked and anderson and leonard are not involved?

here before you know it!

for a couple of these components coming to NYK:

Isaiah Hartenstein
Troy Williams (perhaps that announced signing didn't actually occur yet)
Isaiah Taylor

Mo Harkless
Noah Vonleh
Pat Conaughton

for a couple of these components coming to NYK:

Isaiah Hartenstein
Troy Williams (perhaps that announced signing didn't actually occur yet)
Isaiah Taylor

Mo Harkless
Noah Vonleh
Pat Conaughton

In comment 13537892 bceagle05 said:

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Breathe easier, Knicks fans.

let the record show the market spoke pretty clearly on Rose's value in today's NBA. He's getting closer and closer to his destiny of leading the Chinese league in scoring. It's telling that an older player with his own lengthy injury history (George Hill) got a ton more money.

In comment 13538064 Pep22 said:

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for a couple of these components coming to NYK: Isaiah Hartenstein Troy Williams (perhaps that announced signing didn't actually occur yet) Isaiah Taylor Mo Harkless Noah Vonleh Pat Conaughton

Looks like Williams signing has happened.

"Williams signed a three-year contract extension with the Rockets on Thursday, Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN reports."

From that grotesque civil trial's reveals to no-showing work, I can't think of a worse initial impression of a player to a new city.