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NFT: Can only Lol at this point... Zack Wheeler stress fracture

DanMetroMan : 7/24/2017 4:40 pm
Unreal (yes in his arm)
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Championship!  
ZGiants98 : 7/24/2017 6:25 pm : link
The New York Mets announced Monday that they have signed RHP Jonathan Albaladejo to a minor league deal.

Albaladejo, 34, pitched in the Major Leagues from 2007-2010 and 2012 for the Nationals, Yankees and Diamondbacks. In 66 career appearances he has thrown 76.2 innings, striking out 56 and walking 32. He has a career 1.422 WHIP, 4.34 ERA and 4.89 FIP.

Pitching for the Bridgeport Bluefish of the Atlantic League this season, he won seven games pitching to a 4.44 ERA with 103 strikeouts in 99 1/3 innings.

He had a strong 2016 campaign during which he went 15-6 with a 4.06 ERA in 172.2 innings. He was teammates with former Met favorite Endy Chavez who hit .345 in 95 games for Bridgeport in 2016.
Wish they would have sold high on him..  
Sean : 7/24/2017 6:28 pm : link
earlier when he put together a few nice starts. This team needs to stop expecting things from often injured SP's.
Whats Bartolo Colon doing nowadays?  
spike : 7/24/2017 6:31 pm : link
We might have some starts for him
Wheeler has 17 starts at 92 pitches a start  
Vanzetti : 7/24/2017 6:32 pm : link
86 innings are deceiving because he throws so many pitches per inning.

Sounds like they just overworked him coming off two years of not pitching. That's what happens when you have a manager and GM in the final year of their contracts. They are thinking more about this year than the future. Wheeler actually had a pretty good string of starts. Sounds like he just hit a wall physically.

I do not think this necessarily means he has to go to the pen. He just needs some rest. Might be a blessing in disguise.

I'm actually surprised Blevins has held up as well as he has, considering his load.

Of all the pitchers, Wheeler and Matz were the ones I was most likely  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/24/2017 6:33 pm : link
to say wouldn't be around long.
I'd shelf Wheeler for the season  
spike : 7/24/2017 6:34 pm : link
and let him try again in the spring.

No sense rushing any of these guys back. Pitch Montero, Pill, Lugo, Degrom, and Matz (if he holds up....)
At this point  
JoeMoney19 : 7/24/2017 6:50 pm : link
with the Mets, Cubs & Astros, it is a proven fact that you need to build around young offense because pitching is a complete crap shoot.
RE: At this point  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/24/2017 6:53 pm : link
In comment 13537884 JoeMoney19 said:
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with the Mets, Cubs & Astros, it is a proven fact that you need to build around young offense because pitching is a complete crap shoot.


You need both. The mets had half the equation solved, and failed to follow up on getting the offense required to justify the pitching. I still say they should sell off what they can and try to get some young, athletic prospects.
Flexen to be called up  
BigBlueShock : 7/24/2017 7:25 pm : link
To pitch Thursday
RE: RE: RE: Just a heads up...  
Jim in Fairfax : 7/24/2017 8:47 pm : link
In comment 13537862 ZGiants98 said:
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Mets calling it a "Stress Reaction" which is a precursor to an actual fracture. Still laughable and changes nothing.


You're making that up.



Huh? No Im not. That's what the Mets are calling it... lol.



Sorry, lame joke attempt. See my 5:13pm post.
maybe Wheeler  
spike : 7/24/2017 9:32 pm : link
will be the future Mets closer
do you know who DOESN'T have a fracture?  
feelflows : 7/24/2017 9:54 pm : link
Dom Smith

he's 3 for 3 tonight with his 15th homer (batting .338)

not bad for a fat/lazy bastid!
RE: do you know who DOESN'T have a fracture?  
Eric on Li : 7/24/2017 10:13 pm : link
In comment 13537969 feelflows said:
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Dom Smith

he's 3 for 3 tonight with his 15th homer (batting .338)

not bad for a fat/lazy bastid!


They need to just get him already. Deal Duda and be done with it.
JDG  
feelflows : 7/24/2017 10:24 pm : link
looks nasty tonight.

which means he will promptly get bombed.
.  
arcarsenal : 7/24/2017 10:59 pm : link
Cespedes is fun to watch when he runs full speed. It's like seeing a lunar eclipse or something. But when it does happen, the man can fly.
Wow no mention  
ZGiants98 : 7/24/2017 11:24 pm : link
that the Mets are calling up Flexen?? Pretty crazy. He will be starting in place of Wheeler.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Just a heads up...  
ZGiants98 : 7/24/2017 11:25 pm : link
In comment 13537928 Jim in Fairfax said:
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In comment 13537854 Jim in Fairfax said:


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Mets calling it a "Stress Reaction" which is a precursor to an actual fracture. Still laughable and changes nothing.


You're making that up.



Huh? No Im not. That's what the Mets are calling it... lol.





Sorry, lame joke attempt. See my 5:13pm post.


Wow I suck. Twice in the same thread completely missed it. lol
Smith is on fire...  
ZGiants98 : 7/24/2017 11:27 pm : link
I feel much better about a Duda trade now then I did a few weeks ago.
RE: Wow no mention  
spike : 7/24/2017 11:30 pm : link
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that the Mets are calling up Flexen?? Pretty crazy. He will be starting in place of Wheeler.


Im surprised Pill doesn't get another start
Obviously semi alarming due to recent performance  
bhill410 : 7/24/2017 11:31 pm : link
But I think some of this DL stint is related to trying to manage Wheelers innings and jumping on any potential DL offering.

I know I am dumb and I still want them to trade off reed, Duda and grandy - but part of me still feels like we could make it semi interesting (think get within 4/5 games of second wild card by late August) if Harvey and Thor come back at all effective before September.

Anyway excited to see flexon instead of Pill.
I think we go on a run with or without trades  
ZGiants98 : 7/25/2017 12:36 am : link
Rosario and Smith could come up and our 4 starting OF alignment can go to 3 and we might not miss much of a beat in terms of the lineup. Addison Reed will be the killer. Not going to have much of a shot without him. Probably the one guy I hope we can hold onto unless he brings back a ransom.
Jesus reed misses blowing  
bhill410 : 7/25/2017 12:44 am : link
Game by two inches
RE: Jesus reed misses blowing  
Vanzetti : 7/25/2017 12:48 am : link
In comment 13538019 bhill410 said:
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Game by two inches


Sometimes it is better to be lucky than good
RE: Obviously semi alarming due to recent performance  
Vanzetti : 7/25/2017 12:53 am : link
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But part of me still feels like we could make it semi interesting (think get within 4/5 games of second wild card by late August) if Harvey and Thor come back at all effective before


We all know the odds of actually making the playoffs are very slim but If they can go on a little run then baseball in August will keep the attention. Of those of us willing to buy into what will probably turn out to be an illusion

But I don't want baseball to be over for me as a fan at the end of July. All of us Mets fans have endured too many seasons like that
RE: RE: Wow no mention  
DanMetroMan : 7/25/2017 8:23 am : link
In comment 13538007 spike said:
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that the Mets are calling up Flexen?? Pretty crazy. He will be starting in place of Wheeler.



Im surprised Pill doesn't get another start


Pill is not a major league talent
What's everyone's thoughts on an outfield  
bhill410 : 7/25/2017 11:40 am : link
Of Bruce - conforto - cespedes with lagaras in against lefties and Bruce occasionally moving to first? Resign reed, sign Cobb and add moustakas and who knows maybe rebuild is faster than anticipated. Cain is probably a better fit but I have to think Bruce will be a lot cheaper. Thor - degrom - Cobb - Harvey - Matz with Lugo & Montero starting in pen until first injury(s) to starters.
I wish we have a DH position  
spike : 7/25/2017 2:21 pm : link
Then we would have no problems signing Bruce
RE: I wish we have a DH position  
Metnut : 7/25/2017 2:38 pm : link
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Then we would have no problems signing Bruce


Agreed. Sadly, there's no DH in the NL and we already have two corner OFs. I'd rather allocate resources elsewhere. Also, the fact that just about every other GM keeps passing on this guy makes me even more skeptical about his skillset going forward. He really has to repeat his production from this year (basically a career year) to really be useful.
I kind of feel the  
Metnut : 7/25/2017 2:41 pm : link
same as BHill in that I don't want baseball to be over already. I understand the playoffs are a long shot, but I'd still like to see the team win games down the stretch. Reed would be the biggest loss but maybe Rosario and Smith and replicate Duda and Cabrera's production (like Z said).
RE: do you know who DOESN'T have a fracture?  
Ron Johnson : 7/25/2017 2:47 pm : link
In comment 13537969 feelflows said:
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Dom Smith

he's 3 for 3 tonight with his 15th homer (batting .338)

not bad for a fat/lazy bastid!


not bad but .325 is the Mendoza line in the PCL
I have a feeling Smith's  
Metnut : 7/25/2017 2:52 pm : link
.379 babip won't carry over to MLB. Either way though, if the Mets don't want to extend Duda, Smith needs MLB ABs. He's been a guy that's often struggled a bit each time he was promoted, but after getting enough ABs, turned it around. Would be nice to get some 200 or so MLB ABs in 2017.
You  
DanMetroMan : 7/25/2017 2:55 pm : link
guys scoff but .338 is "only" tied for 8th in the PCL, 13 players are hitting .325+. Silly league. Only Mexico as a league is more ridiculous.
Cubs  
DanMetroMan : 7/25/2017 3:06 pm : link
interested in Rene Rivera
Heyman says Rosario could get the call up as early as Monday.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 7/25/2017 4:42 pm : link
Not that Heyman is my go-to for Mets info.
RE: You  
pjcas18 : 7/25/2017 4:50 pm : link
In comment 13538617 DanMetroMan said:
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guys scoff but .338 is "only" tied for 8th in the PCL, 13 players are hitting .325+. Silly league. Only Mexico as a league is more ridiculous.


Who scoffs?, I've been railing against LV since they went there. I have been advocating to keep players in BING vs LV so they don't get inflated stats.

I hate the place (not LV itself, I like LV, but for the Mets AAA team I hate it), and I believe it contributed to things like Akeel Morris, not that he's irreplaceable or even good, who knows how he winds up, but maybe if he didn't get hammered in his lone callup from A+ ball and they had someone closer to use he might not have been called up at all and possibly not dealt for a sub-par old utility player.

and there are other factors too. I think having a local team like the Red Sox do (Pawtucket and Portland are both sub 2-hour drive from Boston), helps foster fandom at a younger level and more active level.
Vegas is a joke but he's hit .300 each of the past 3 years  
Eric on Li : 7/25/2017 4:58 pm : link
with about 500 PA's each year. His K rate has also been a solid 15% over that time. Yes Vegas has inflated his BA and power, but his XBH have steadily increased every year so he's been trending in the right direction for some time.
What I don't get is why wRC+  
ZGiants98 : 7/25/2017 5:07 pm : link
Doesn't translate if it takes into effect leagues and parks. It's still going to be higher Id imagine but it should level it down some a little bit.
RE: Cubs  
spike : 7/25/2017 6:32 pm : link
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interested in Rene Rivera


Do it!!! Rivera won't be back next season either. Time for Plawecki to shine.. or stink it up
Marcos Molina back from the DL with a vengeance  
pjcas18 : 7/25/2017 6:46 pm : link
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Rumble Ponies‏Verified account @RumblePoniesBB 2m2 minutes ago

Pitching Change: Ben Griset takes over in the 7th, we're still scoreless.

Molina: 6.0 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 9 SO, 79 pitches - 52 strikes


Wonder what Molina is hitting  
bhill410 : 7/25/2017 7:07 pm : link
On the gun. News that Sandy will promote from the ole rumble ponies has him salivating apparently.
seems like the Mets organizationally  
pjcas18 : 7/25/2017 8:00 pm : link
have a lot of players on the DL.

COLA has 8 pitchers and 6 position players on the DL. Here are the pitchers per astromets twitter:

RE: RE: You  
DanMetroMan : 7/26/2017 7:47 am : link
In comment 13538757 pjcas18 said:
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guys scoff but .338 is "only" tied for 8th in the PCL, 13 players are hitting .325+. Silly league. Only Mexico as a league is more ridiculous.



Who scoffs?, I've been railing against LV since they went there. I have been advocating to keep players in BING vs LV so they don't get inflated stats.

I hate the place (not LV itself, I like LV, but for the Mets AAA team I hate it), and I believe it contributed to things like Akeel Morris, not that he's irreplaceable or even good, who knows how he winds up, but maybe if he didn't get hammered in his lone callup from A+ ball and they had someone closer to use he might not have been called up at all and possibly not dealt for a sub-par old utility player.

and there are other factors too. I think having a local team like the Red Sox do (Pawtucket and Portland are both sub 2-hour drive from Boston), helps foster fandom at a younger level and more active level.


PJ,
Just to be clear it wasn't a knock on Dom or anyone here more that the "jokes" about LV are mostly actually close to the truth. It's wild when you look up the leaders and see 13 players hitting .325+
RE: I wish we have a DH position  
MetsAreBack : 7/26/2017 9:56 am : link
In comment 13538557 spike said:
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Then we would have no problems signing Bruce


I'd rather have Bruce on this team than Cespedes, personally. But I don't think that's an option at this point. Career wise -- fairly similar numbers, Bruce is a lot more durable, more polished media wise and seemingly more focused on his job, and one year younger.
Not to mention  
spike : 7/26/2017 11:24 am : link
No hamstring issues
This monday should have a flurry of activities  
spike : 7/26/2017 11:27 am : link
Hopefully Sandy will be part of the sellers
Cubs supposedly  
Metnut : 7/26/2017 1:29 pm : link
in on Lugo. Love his spin-rate on CB and think he has breakout potential.

What would the cubs  
Metnut : 7/26/2017 1:31 pm : link
give up for Reed, Lugo and Rivera?
Most on twitter  
pjcas18 : 7/26/2017 1:45 pm : link
saying the Mets wouldn't trade Lugo b/c cost controlled, only 27, also love his spin rate and and agree he's a breakout candidate, but I would.

to save him.

As a met he's doomed to TJ in the next 6 months to a year, maybe by getting him off the cursed team they can salvage his career.
If  
DanMetroMan : 7/26/2017 2:38 pm : link
they don't deal Granderson they are morons. Even a top 30 prospect is better than nothing.
They  
DanMetroMan : 7/26/2017 2:43 pm : link
will have Milone make starts over Molina watch.
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