NFT: Portland involved in Melo 3 team trade per Mike Rice

broadcaster.

I would love to get ANYTHING of value in return.

Fans on Reddit are saying Rice was fired for saying wild things and has "never" broken a story. Don't shoot the messenger

and in the other thread dan posted a comment from a blazers fan on reddit saying that this broadcaster was recently fired and that he has never broke a story before. Not saying its fake, just throwing that on this thread as well.

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[�]_Quetzalcoatlus_ 17 points 7 hours ago
Blazers fan jumping in on the top comment to let y'all know: Rice is our recently fired color announcer. He was let go because he was getting old and saying some wacky shit on TV. As far as I know, he's never broken a story before.
Maybe he's right, but I would take it with a grain of salt.

he was a bit of a nut case through the years. But, I'm sure he's still connected through the team in various ways.

has broken some stories in the past and has connections within NBA offices..

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Inside sources have told me that Melo will 100% be a Rocket by 5:45 Tuesday evening. You heard it here first.

for a deal to be completed early this week. Multiple people have said that, of course none of them are at Woj level, but still. Plus for the knicks and rockets and whoever there really isnt much value in dragging this out. The knicks took their timeout to let Perry see what he can do and now they are going to move forward with whatever they can get. Lets just hope its at least a deal we can all stomach.

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that Knicks would receive...

Harkless, Ariza, Qi, picks??

will be the biggest piece, Qi won't be involved. That's my prediction.

In comment 13538082 DanMetroMan said:

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will be the biggest piece, Qi won't be involved. That's my prediction.

That would be pretty disappointing all things considered. Is Harkless even a difference maker?

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In comment 13538082 DanMetroMan said: Quote: will be the biggest piece, Qi won't be involved. That's my prediction. That would be pretty disappointing all things considered. Is Harkless even a difference maker?

Nope. He's a solid role player.

harkless, leonard, and hartenstein for a week or so now. Anything more then that and i will be pleasantly surprised.

situation

Rockets picks they can deal 2020 first
Worst 2018 2nd from Charlotte, Memphis and Miami
2020 second

So if the picks were coming from Houston the absolute best the Knicks can do in the near future is a bad 2nd round pick

Portland- Has their first, doesn't have their second, doesn't have their 2019 2nd. Has 2019 second of LAL or Wolves (the better pick)

So the best picks available (hypothetically) are Portland's 2018 pick, Portland's 2019 pick and Houston's 2020 1st (100% not suggesting the Knicks are getting 3 1sts, I wouldn't be surprised if they get none) just pointing out what is allowed to be traded.

is a guy I'd love to grab in this deal

a decent asset

That we are getting anything back, if we get Harkless, harrnstein and 1st I would be good, but I doubt we are getting a 1st

could be wrong but I find it very hard to believe the Blazers give up their 2019 1st if they are taking Ryan Anderson. I think the best we can hope for is 2020 Houston pick.

I've seen of Hartenstein is basically only wide open two handed dunks. Is he a decent prospect outside of that?

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I've seen of Hartenstein is basically only wide open two handed dunks. Is he a decent prospect outside of that?

Bad attitude, NBA range/size. Back concerns. Has a shot to be part of a rotation for a good NBA team. Showed some flashes in summer league. Talent alone is likely a 1st rounder but very hot and cold.

I don't mean to sh_t on him but is he that much different than a more highly paid N'Dour type i.e. very long SF who has above avg but not elite athletic ability and therefore, some defensive versatility but is a poor shooter, ball handler?

I just haven't seen him in volume so my perception may be off a bit.

Does this mean Kyrie is going to Minnesota (from his list)?

about Hartenstein I like are:

a) one of those guys with funky left handed finishing ability around the hoop (sort of the way Thaddeus Young finishes)

b) very good passing ability

thing is just annoying. We can't get ANYTHING better than than guy for melo?

don't really have anything to give to Cleveland for Kyrie that would be comparable. That's the only problem I see with that deal.

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I don't mean to sh_t on him but is he that much different than a more highly paid N'Dour type i.e. very long SF who has above avg but not elite athletic ability and therefore, some defensive versatility but is a poor shooter, ball handler? I just haven't seen him in volume so my perception may be off a bit.

He's a good athlete, strong in transitionl. He's solid at multiple things, not great at anything. If he's the guy who shot 35% from 3 he's not a bad addition, if he's the guy who shot 25% from 3 the previous 2 seasons it's not going to be good. He's not a bad player at all.

he has been a more productive NBA player then Ndour. He is an ok SF who doesnt really do anything great. Basically a solid role player who still has a bit of upside i think.

Can't expect a lot for an old scorer who played older than his birthdate would suggest and is also on the hook for $27m.

this comment isn't meant to be negative...have you watched Harkless play a lot? I get the stats. But the few times I watched Portland play this past year he literally was not a factor.

im guessing CLE doesnt give a shit about his "list". He is cost controlled for 2 more seasons. The only advantage a team on his list would have is that they might think they have a better chance of resigning him, but again that is 2 years away, a lot can change.

I think he ends up in PHX, but i think it is a dumb move for PHX.

is the actual best player we get back, we should certainly be getting some picks. Trade is essentially a salary dump if not (not necessarily a bad thing either).

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he has been a more productive NBA player then Ndour. He is an ok SF who doesnt really do anything great. Basically a solid role player who still has a bit of upside i think.

big thing for me, he plays good defense, kp needs defenders and shooters around him, it is why i loke the frank pick...

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this comment isn't meant to be negative...have you watched Harkless play a lot? I get the stats. But the few times I watched Portland play this past year he literally was not a factor.

In the NBA I haven't, but I'm an SJU alum so I know Moe's game pretty well. Blazers aren't exactly prime time viewing. Looked pretty much like the same player I remembered in college during the playoffs but his 3 ball wasn't falling. My concern would be a fluky good 2017 from 3. He did not have a good 3 ball at SJU.

has a shot to be a contributor but he's going to take some time. I think he'd be absolutely destroyed on the defensive end as a rookie. Might even be a guy you consider stashing or d/g-leaguing.

but I have a feeling he is going to make this trade even worse with his play this upcoming season (not that we have much of a choice at this point).

While flawed and aging, people might be forgetting how impactful a motivated, fit and healthy Carmelo can be.

In some of those clips playing pickup ball with Kyrie, he looked really trim and quick.

defense when the president of the team is basically calling you out 24/7, it's tough to really care about the team/direction you're on.

sas said on mike and mike, knicks willing to give up anyone except kp in deal for irving, melo to cavs real possibility

In comment 13538087 DanMetroMan said:

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situation Rockets picks they can deal 2020 first Worst 2018 2nd from Charlotte, Memphis and Miami 2020 second So if the picks were coming from Houston the absolute best the Knicks can do in the near future is a bad 2nd round pick Portland- Has their first, doesn't have their second, doesn't have their 2019 2nd. Has 2019 second of LAL or Wolves (the better pick) So the best picks available (hypothetically) are Portland's 2018 pick, Portland's 2019 pick and Houston's 2020 1st (100% not suggesting the Knicks are getting 3 1sts, I wouldn't be surprised if they get none) just pointing out what is allowed to be traded.

I would be happy with their unprotected 2020 1st round pick. You never know what can happen in a few years. Harden and co will be 3 years older and if he breaks down or misses substantial time due to injury that pick could be a lottery pick. It doesn't help the team now but it could pay off big time in the future.

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but I have a feeling he is going to make this trade even worse with his play this upcoming season (not that we have much of a choice at this point). While flawed and aging, people might be forgetting how impactful a motivated, fit and healthy Carmelo can be. In some of those clips playing pickup ball with Kyrie, he looked really trim and quick.

Yeah, but the Knicks were never gonna see that guy. He seemed all too content showing up and collecting his massive paycheck here in NY.

else the knicks are doing their best to get HOU to up their offer by leaking this CLE and OKC stuff. I said it a week or so ago, but i feel like it would be tough for Morey to sit down with Paul and Harden and say sorry we missed out on Melo but i really didnt want to include Qi.....

have to believe Houston values Qi so highly because of the Chinese market. Everything I've read agrees he's not NBA ready and may never be anything more than a role player.

It just sucks that we are over a barrel here.

I have been saying this whole time that I think Melo can impact the top % of teams in the league.

OKC, Houston, Cleveland will all look like very different teams with/without Melo. In Cleveland's case I was thinking more in addition to Kyrie but who knows.

dont they have to be shipping back (i) Harkless, plus Davis+Aminu OR Leonard?

Im basically a pass on anything Houston can offer around Anderson.

okay with trading him. Makes me sick to think that Melo gets to dictate where he will go while speaking out of both sides of his mouth. I'd rather let him rot on the bench over getting nothing in return. Teams need to stop letting players have so much power. Threaten to let him rot on the bench and I bet he opens up his list some.

and is "eager" to see him traded [another source].

Well then.
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and there is no repairing it at this point. I am a little disappointed in Kyrie and how he's handled this situation. Immensely talented, but I'd be a little concerned trading for this guy.

In comment 13538127 nygiants16 said:

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sas said on mike and mike, knicks willing to give up anyone except kp in deal for irving, melo to cavs real possibility

Melo, Willy, Frank. Get it done!

knee is a major concern to me. Knowing our luck it won't turn out well...

thing is amazing because in reality, the Knicks can probably give the Cavs the most for Irving (not including KP). And it would give Irving a chance to come home and be the man in NY.