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NGT: La'el Collins signs 2 year ext worth 15.4 millon

chopperhatch : 7/25/2017 5:21 pm
Surprised it wasn't posted...if I just didnt see it, will delete.

Garofalo broke the story on NFL Network, said that the deal essentially pays him what he wouldve received ona rookie deal if he was drafted in round 1. Also leaves open his ability to test free agency in 2 years.

I know many here were high on him including myself. But didnt he project better as a G and underwhelmed at LG? He is slated as the starting RT on the Dallas depth chart.
4 million signing boner - ( New Window )
He was Mike Mayock's top-rated OT prospect prior to the 2015 draft.  
Klaatu : 7/25/2017 5:26 pm : link
In case you were wondering, Ereck Flowers was #2 (and please, no jokes about him playing like #2, either).
RE: He was Mike Mayock's top-rated OT prospect prior to the 2015 draft.  
chopperhatch : 7/25/2017 5:31 pm : link
In comment 13538780 Klaatu said:
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In case you were wondering, Ereck Flowers was #2 (and please, no jokes about him playing like #2, either).


No, I remember that. I actually really liked him. Though I liked Flowers size a little better. I just remember reading about him not performing that well at LG and now he is moving out to RT? I also remember the knock on us taking him was that he was better suited at G.
He beat out Leary at LG  
giants#1 : 7/25/2017 5:37 pm : link
in his rookie season and started 2016 there before getting injured. Snacks completely abused him game 1 though and (IIRC) he didn't fare much better in weeks 2-3 of 2016 before hitting IR.

In any event, the 2 year extension makes him one of the highest paid RTs (by AAV) in the NFL and I don't believe he's even taken a regular season snap there.
RE: He beat out Leary at LG  
chopperhatch : 7/25/2017 5:40 pm : link
In comment 13538791 giants#1 said:
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in his rookie season and started 2016 there before getting injured. Snacks completely abused him game 1 though and (IIRC) he didn't fare much better in weeks 2-3 of 2016 before hitting IR.

In any event, the 2 year extension makes him one of the highest paid RTs (by AAV) in the NFL and I don't believe he's even taken a regular season snap there.


Egg Zach Lee
Honestly, chop, I think he's best suited to play RT.  
Klaatu : 7/25/2017 5:40 pm : link
I think he'll do well there, especially with Zack Martin playing next to him. I think their starting LG spot is up for grabs, but whomever wins that job will be playing in between Tyron Smith and Travis Frederick, which will surely help.
Cooper  
grizz299 : 7/25/2017 5:56 pm : link
another former no.1 is slated to start at OLG.
I think the line is potentially even stronger this year.
I also am one who is convinced Prescott is going to be exponentially better too.
The offence is going to be a handful, but I can't see a defence that's lost some five to six starters holding down the fort against this much improved Giant offence. I see us improved in every category..TE, WR, RB, OL all significant upgrades.
I don't want Zeke suspended. I want to beat their best. Exciting and defining match-up I think we've all been savoring for months. And even so, they'll be fifteen games to go afterwards and so much can happen it's probably wrong to call it defining - though it will feel like it.
This will be Coopers 4th NFL team  
BSIMatt : 7/25/2017 6:26 pm : link
And he is replacing Leary who just got 20 mil guaranteed(compared to the 4 mil? Dallas just handed Collins). The worry was that Dallas got Zack Martin 2.0 when Collins fell in their lap, after 2 underwhelming seasons at guard, where he was outclassed by Leary, I think it's at least fair to say they didn't get the second coming of Zack Martin.

Collins hasn't taken a single NFL rep at tackle, and was just average at guard, surrounded by the same Tyron Smith and Travis Frederick that are supposed to help Cooper suddenly blossom.

Also, Collins did not beat out Leary his rookie year, he got onto the field due to injury to Leary, the reverse happened last year the Cowboys line was better for it as Collins play regressed his sophomore year.
JPP  
annexOPR : 7/25/2017 6:32 pm : link
gets Collins in his first start at RT?

Save your money La'el ...
The numbers pretty much confirm what most people assumed:  
Big Blue Blogger : 7/25/2017 6:33 pm : link
There was a handshake deal in place to tear up his rookie contract after two years and replace it with one that makes Collins whole for not being drafted.

Hats off to Dallas. That's where he wanted to be. All anyone had to do to prevent it was give the League Office the finger and draft him. No way the Giants would do that, but I figured somebody would. Didn't the Rams draft about seven offensive linemen that year?
RE: JPP  
BSIMatt : 7/25/2017 6:35 pm : link
In comment 13538829 annexOPR said:
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gets Collins in his first start at RT?

Save your money La'el ...


Tell Jerry to get his popcorn ready...
RE: RE: JPP  
adamg : 7/25/2017 6:38 pm : link
In comment 13538832 BSIMatt said:
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In comment 13538829 annexOPR said:


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gets Collins in his first start at RT?

Save your money La'el ...



Tell Jerry to get his popcorn ready...


He's gonna need a lot more than that ready...

BSIMatt  
Klaatu : 7/25/2017 7:28 pm : link
I don't think Cooper is a lock to start for Dallas at LG. They signed a couple of UDFA Guards this year, one of whom could surprise, just like Leary did for them in the past.

As for Collins at RT, I thought it was a mistake for the Cowboys to move him inside. I always thought RT would be his best position. I'm hardly an expert on O-Line play, so we'll see what happens with him this year.
Collins  
annexOPR : 7/25/2017 7:30 pm : link
should be starting somewhere on the right side for the giants ...

oh well - I don't care about their OL as long as the Giants have this DL
I'm really hoping the Giants landed the future at RT for them  
UberAlias : 7/25/2017 8:01 pm : link
Late in that same draft or in this past one. We shall see.

Cooper was splitting first team LG reps  
BSIMatt : 7/25/2017 8:13 pm : link
With Chaz Green last I saw, so I don't think he is a lock either(was just responding to Grizz)

Collins may be better at RT, but it is odd that with Free operating as the weak link of the unit and Leary playing so well that it took Dallas this long to even give Collins any tackle reps going into his third season with the organization.
RE: Cooper was splitting first team LG reps  
fanatic II : 7/25/2017 9:18 pm : link
In comment 13538928 BSIMatt said:
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With Chaz Green last I saw, so I don't think he is a lock either(was just responding to Grizz)

Collins may be better at RT, but it is odd that with Free operating as the weak link of the unit and Leary playing so well that it took Dallas this long to even give Collins any tackle reps going into his third season with the organization.


You can add Byron Bell and Joe Looney to the mix also.

There are 4 players for the one starter spot, the three players that don't win the spot will be the backups on the line.

Joe Looney is the backup center and plays both guard positions.

Cooper has been taking reps at center during the OTAs, we'll see if that continues in training camp.

Chaz Green was the supposed starter at RT when Free retired, but Collins was named the starter during OTAs. Green was the swing tackle last year and started two games when Tyron Smith was injured. Now he has to play inside to if he wants to start.

Byron Bell was sign in free agency from Tennessee and is primarily a tackle. Last year he played guard when Tennessee had injury problems. He can play everything, but center.

No matter who wins the RG spot, Dallas will have good depth on the OL.
RE: The numbers pretty much confirm what most people assumed:  
DonQuixote : 7/25/2017 10:28 pm : link
In comment 13538830 Big Blue Blogger said:
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There was a handshake deal in place to tear up his rookie contract after two years and replace it with one that makes Collins whole for not being drafted.

Hats off to Dallas. That's where he wanted to be. All anyone had to do to prevent it was give the League Office the finger and draft him. No way the Giants would do that, but I figured somebody would. Didn't the Rams draft about seven offensive linemen that year?


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why would any team agree to black list  
SHO'NUFF : 7/25/2017 11:26 pm : link
any player, just so Dallas can swoop in and offer deals under the table?
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