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| "It's like the elephant in the room, and you don't want to talk about it," Beckham says in the video. "But I've gotten to the point in my life where I'm like, 'No, I'm going to ... there's no need to not talk about it. "I believe that I will be hopefully not just the highest-paid receiver in the league, but the highest-paid, period." |
Why? What's so funny?
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Do you ever wonder when they show those videos of someone working out they're always in slow motion and it's purpose is to show the dedication and "relentless drive" of the individual. .
Why? What's so funny?
Nothing wrong with wanting to be the best.
It's a hidden humor. Kind of like his response and shitty quoting. He hides his response in the quote.
He will not be the highest paid player. A WR does not warrant that kind of money..
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It's a hidden humor. Kind of like his response and shitty quoting. He hides his response in the quote.
Is this like that Lena Dunham thing? Because I definitely saw the humor in that.
so whats worse him saying this or leveon bell skipping camp because he wants a new contract?
It would actually be better if whiny fans like you were the ones who shut the fuck up, honestly.
This isn't news.
Maybe listen to the rest of what he says.. where he says he doesn't feel like the things he's already done are good enough anymore. Says he can't rest until he's holding the trophy in the air and that football is his life.
You think this guy doesn't care about winning? You couldn't be more wrong.
Put him on commission.
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just shut the FUCK up for 5 mins, play football and let the rest come to him. If he wants to win so badly then stop saying shit to the media that is just going to be a distraction to the team and get the media into a frenzy! He's either a really stupid person or his top priority is not winning. He truly has the potential to be one of the greatest of all time but man he really goes out of his way to be an enigma.
Don’t think I’m overreacting at all. Guarantee this becomes a national sports headline by tomorrow morning. This isn’t what you want the first day of camp...
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just shut the FUCK up for 5 mins, play football and let the rest come to him. If he wants to win so badly then stop saying shit to the media that is just going to be a distraction to the team and get the media into a frenzy! He's either a really stupid person or his top priority is not winning. He truly has the potential to be one of the greatest of all time but man he really goes out of his way to be an enigma.
It would actually be better if whiny fans like you were the ones who shut the fuck up, honestly.
This isn't news.
Maybe listen to the rest of what he says.. where he says he doesn't feel like the things he's already done are good enough anymore. Says he can't rest until he's holding the trophy in the air and that football is his life.
You think this guy doesn't care about winning? You couldn't be more wrong.
Maybe YOU should listen to the whole thing where he also says he is starting to feel like football is becoming more of a job to him and he doesn’t love it the way he used to. There’s no question in my mind that what he said is an issue and is not what you hear from players who’s top priority is winning and not themselves. Imagine a Belichik coached player saying this nonsense.
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just shut the FUCK up for 5 mins, play football and let the rest come to him. If he wants to win so badly then stop saying shit to the media that is just going to be a distraction to the team and get the media into a frenzy! He's either a really stupid person or his top priority is not winning. He truly has the potential to be one of the greatest of all time but man he really goes out of his way to be an enigma.
Don’t think I’m overreacting at all. Guarantee this becomes a national sports headline by tomorrow morning. This isn’t what you want the first day of camp...
And who really gives a flying fuck except for you, mdc1 (whose douchebaggery exceeds even yours), Pat Leonard, Gary Myers, Mike Florio, and Ross Tucker? Do you think his teammates care? If you do, you're an even bigger idiot than I suspect.
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In comment 13540808 Josh in the City said:
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just shut the FUCK up for 5 mins, play football and let the rest come to him. If he wants to win so badly then stop saying shit to the media that is just going to be a distraction to the team and get the media into a frenzy! He's either a really stupid person or his top priority is not winning. He truly has the potential to be one of the greatest of all time but man he really goes out of his way to be an enigma.
It would actually be better if whiny fans like you were the ones who shut the fuck up, honestly.
This isn't news.
Maybe listen to the rest of what he says.. where he says he doesn't feel like the things he's already done are good enough anymore. Says he can't rest until he's holding the trophy in the air and that football is his life.
You think this guy doesn't care about winning? You couldn't be more wrong.
Maybe YOU should listen to the whole thing where he also says he is starting to feel like football is becoming more of a job to him and he doesn’t love it the way he used to. There’s no question in my mind that what he said is an issue and is not what you hear from players who’s top priority is winning and not themselves. Imagine a Belichik coached player saying this nonsense.
You're not very good at interpreting spoken words.
The point is that football becomes more business like as you get older and more entrenched in the league. It's no longer like a "hobby" you go out and just enjoy.
These guys have hard jobs. You think they play a game and it's so fucking easy. Half of the guys who play in this league wind up with irreparable damage to their bodies (or worse, their brains) when all is said and done.
Odell Beckham doesn't exist to serve you. He's well within his rights to want to be compensated accordingly.
Fans like you are the fucking worst.
As I said on the trade Beckham thread. I'd have no problem paying him IF Webb turns out to be good and we have a QB on a rookie contract for 3 years. Otherwise- good luck with that.
Your 2020 Giants- "Beckham and the UDFA Chuckle Bunch"
Relax, Jooooooosh.
The Bengals paid AJ, ATL paid Julio, PIT paid AB. We're going to pay OBJ.
Josh is absolutely right on the money.
Some of you don't get it- it's not about Odell's talent. It is unmistakable. He plays this "winning is most important" card all the time but it's fake. Odell is about Odell, and you know what? That's fine. I'd say almost every player in the NFL feels the same way- it's a job. Get paid and start a post football life at 30-40.
The PROBLEM is that MOST players are smart enough to just keep quiet about it. Play the media to be useful to you and do your negotiating or business behind closed doors. Beckham doesn't do that because he has a BRAND, that is more important.
THAT my friends....is the POOR OPTICS.
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just shut the FUCK up for 5 mins, play football and let the rest come to him. If he wants to win so badly then stop saying shit to the media that is just going to be a distraction to the team and get the media into a frenzy! He's either a really stupid person or his top priority is not winning. He truly has the potential to be one of the greatest of all time but man he really goes out of his way to be an enigma.
Don’t think I’m overreacting at all. Guarantee this becomes a national sports headline by tomorrow morning. This isn’t what you want the first day of camp...
So?
You can be both a calculated attention whore and want to win/work hard towards that. It's not either/or.
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In comment 13540808 Josh in the City said:
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just shut the FUCK up for 5 mins, play football and let the rest come to him. If he wants to win so badly then stop saying shit to the media that is just going to be a distraction to the team and get the media into a frenzy! He's either a really stupid person or his top priority is not winning. He truly has the potential to be one of the greatest of all time but man he really goes out of his way to be an enigma.
Don’t think I’m overreacting at all. Guarantee this becomes a national sports headline by tomorrow morning. This isn’t what you want the first day of camp...
And who really gives a flying fuck except for you, mdc1 (whose douchebaggery exceeds even yours), Pat Leonard, Gary Myers, Mike Florio, and Ross Tucker? Do you think his teammates care? If you do, you're an even bigger idiot than I suspect.
Yes they do and so does Jerry Reese.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/giants/2017/01/09/odell-beckham-grow-up-jerry-reese-eli-manning-new-york/96369574/
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just shut the FUCK up for 5 mins, play football and let the rest come to him. If he wants to win so badly then stop saying shit to the media that is just going to be a distraction to the team and get the media into a frenzy! He's either a really stupid person or his top priority is not winning. He truly has the potential to be one of the greatest of all time but man he really goes out of his way to be an enigma.
Josh is absolutely right on the money.
Some of you don't get it- it's not about Odell's talent. It is unmistakable. He plays this "winning is most important" card all the time but it's fake. Odell is about Odell, and you know what? That's fine. I'd say almost every player in the NFL feels the same way- it's a job. Get paid and start a post football life at 30-40.
The PROBLEM is that MOST players are smart enough to just keep quiet about it. Play the media to be useful to you and do your negotiating or business behind closed doors. Beckham doesn't do that because he has a BRAND, that is more important.
THAT my friends....is the POOR OPTICS.
There's nothing not smart about how Beckham builds his brand. They're fantastic at it and making sure the attention is on him, all the time.
So long as he's healthy and producing, it doesn't matter.
Don’t think I’m overreacting at all. Guarantee this becomes a national sports headline by tomorrow morning. This isn’t what you want the first day of camp...
You're equating something being "a national sports headline by tomorrow morning" with actual importance.
As Ian Rappaport said, "There's a difference between REAL distractions (like Zeke Elliot investigation) and media-driven distractions (like 99.9% of the ones involving Odell)."
Would y'all rather the story be "Odell Beckham not at training camp due to contract dispute?"
Because that's the story surrounding LeVeon Bell right now.
Decisions,decisions
I figure something like 6 years 105 million with 60 million guaranteed. That's 17.5 million a year which is the largest APY for any WR in NFL history. That's a half a million more per year then Antonio Brown got. I believe that'd also be the most guaranteed money for a non QB offensive player.
Would y'all rather the story be "Odell Beckham not at training camp due to contract dispute?"
Because that's the story surrounding LeVeon Bell right now.
yes, some would - because its become quite apparent that some on here just want to bitch about everything , and a hold out might actually be justified
Odell could cure cancer - someone would bitch about him not doing it soon enough.
same pkayer still hurt played in a game overseas against the rams?
same player who talks up his teammates evwry chance he gets?
Big. Freakin'. Deal.
mdc1, I didn't realize that Jerry Reese was one of OBJ's teammates. Not one of them - not one - has ever said anything bad about the kid. On the contrary, they've gone out of their way to praise his work ethic, his intensity, and his commitment. Maybe someone should ask Weston Richburg how he feels about OBJ?
As for Reese questioning OBJ's maturity, again...Big. Freakin'. Deal. I remember when he questioned Eli's pocket presence. In the Grand Scheme of things it means absolutely nothing except to fuel a narrative-driven media.
Is OBJ running for office? No? Then who gives a shit about optics? The only optics that matter are the ones showing him blowing by DBs on his way to the end zone.
I think that's become my least favorite word in the English language.
Incredible player makes comments that he wants to be highest paid player in the league as a reflection of his drive to be the best player in the league. News at 11.
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Sounds like someone was just looking for an excuse to use the word. Optics. Pfffft.
I think that's become my least favorite word in the English language.
Let's discuss offline, mmmkay?
This isn't some shit where you just go out onto a field and have fun 16 times a year playing a game. The NFL is a tough, tough sport. The training, preparation, and everything that goes into just being able to be on the field in the first place.
A lot of these guys leave the game behind with irreparable damage to their bodies. Long after they've walked away, they still wake up with aches , pains, or worse.
Players on rookie deals risk a career ending injury every time they step onto the field and know there's a chance of never seeing the real payday.
If at the end of the day, Beckham works his tail off and continues to help NYG win football games, who the fuck cares about "optics" ?
I highly doubt people here go to work every day out of their love for their occupation and don't care about their compensation. Everyone should know their own worth and be compensated accordingly. Everyone has that right. Beckham is no different.
he's on the giants. I root for him, especially when he scores TDs. I don't particularly "like" him - nor does any story like this impact my life whatsoever.
bunch of "die hards" might as well be whiny little school girls. he did nothing wrong. he said nothing wrong. he answered a question.
You treat him like he should act like a humble Pop Warner kid, just happy to be on the field. He works hard, loves his team and loves the game.
But keep focusing on tweets and Facebook. You'll live as a very unhappy, miserable, shitty fan. Enjoy!
You treat him like he should act like a humble Pop Warner kid, just happy to be on the field. He works hard, loves his team and loves the game.
But keep focusing on tweets and Facebook. You'll live as a very unhappy, miserable, shitty fan. Enjoy!
But, B!
The OPTICS!!!!
I don't begrudge anyone trying to get every penny they can. It's a short career.
Non story.
When the time comes, the Giants will make him the highest paid receiver in football. Just like every other team did with their star WR when they gave them a new deal.
That's really all there is to it.
Couldn't be any less of a story but people will keep trying to make it one.
He's going to be asked about his next contract in every interview until the day he has a new contract. He's not going to stop talking to the media. Wake up.
Anyone claiming he didn't put this out there, down to the timing, to make the focus even more on him is either naive or a homer or both.
So what though that he did? How is it going to hurt the team if people not in that locker room talk about Odell more than they do McAdoo's incredibly lame motivation tactics?
Definitely optics. Most eye-roll inducing bullshit there is.
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let me ask a simple question. What was th purpose or benefit of him doing that interview and saying the stupid shit he said? I mean he has to know it’s going to become a story. And to do it so that it’s released literally on the first day of training camp is obviously not a coincidence. The ONLY reason to do it is to make the narrative about Odell. If you guys can’t see that then I don’t know what else to tell you except “wake up.”
Anyone claiming he didn't put this out there, down to the timing, to make the focus even more on him is either naive or a homer or both.
So what though that he did? How is it going to hurt the team if people not in that locker room talk about Odell more than they do McAdoo's incredibly lame motivation tactics?
The guys in the locker room don't care.
When the time comes, the Giants will make him the highest paid receiver in football. Just like every other team did with their star WR when they gave them a new deal.
That's really all there is to it.
Couldn't be any less of a story but people will keep trying to make it one.
Yup. And then guess what, within 12 months another WR will get more than him.
It is amazing how such "educated" fans don't see how this goes down every time. I get that the 24 hr networks like ESPN have to make a mountain out of a molehill, but the fact that stuff like this gets blown up on here is embarassing
As a fan, I'm happy he's not. I don't really care about the off the field noise. I think some fans don't quite appreciate how good he is.
As a fan, I'm happy he's not. I don't really care about the off the field noise. I think some fans don't quite appreciate how good he is.
But he's not doing that even though he could and is not without precedent.
That should be the OPTIC.
But shitty fans secretly want to bitch about "shitty" players.
What an epic fucking clown. The ONLY reason this would become a story is because of fans like you that freak the fuck out at everything he does. To most people, it's a non story. But guys like you will make it one by calling in to all the radio shows and voicing your "concerns" about a harmless fucking comment. Get over yourself.
I mostly lurk, but you are quite the whiny bitch.
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let me ask a simple question. What was th purpose or benefit of him doing that interview and saying the stupid shit he said? I mean he has to know it’s going to become a story. And to do it so that it’s released literally on the first day of training camp is obviously not a coincidence. The ONLY reason to do it is to make the narrative about Odell. If you guys can’t see that then I don’t know what else to tell you except “wake up.”
Anyone claiming he didn't put this out there, down to the timing, to make the focus even more on him is either naive or a homer or both.
So what though that he did? How is it going to hurt the team if people not in that locker room talk about Odell more than they do McAdoo's incredibly lame motivation tactics?
The guys in the locker room don't care.
Which was my point, to be clear.
Beckham knew what he was doing when he said this, when it came out, but it still changes nothing that actually matters in terms of the on field Giants product for the worse. It doesn't matter.
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let me ask a simple question. What was th purpose or benefit of him doing that interview and saying the stupid shit he said? I mean he has to know it’s going to become a story. And to do it so that it’s released literally on the first day of training camp is obviously not a coincidence. The ONLY reason to do it is to make the narrative about Odell. If you guys can’t see that then I don’t know what else to tell you except “wake up.”
I mostly lurk, but you are quite the whiny bitch.
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I'd recommend he holdout until he got a new deal if I were his agent.
As a fan, I'm happy he's not. I don't really care about the off the field noise. I think some fans don't quite appreciate how good he is.
But he's not doing that even though he could and is not without precedent.
That should be the OPTIC.
But shitty fans secretly want to bitch about "shitty" players.
Yeah, exactly. I wouldn't begrudge him at all if he did but could see others doing so. Getting upset over this nonsense is ridiculous.
I don't get the constant outrage over this kid.
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let me ask a simple question. What was th purpose or benefit of him doing that interview and saying the stupid shit he said? I mean he has to know it’s going to become a story. And to do it so that it’s released literally on the first day of training camp is obviously not a coincidence. The ONLY reason to do it is to make the narrative about Odell. If you guys can’t see that then I don’t know what else to tell you except “wake up.”
I mostly lurk, but you are quite the whiny bitch.
This Xs 100000000.
It's remarkable, really. He thinks these guys are like Madden players.
Triggered!
LOL!!!!!!
It is for guys who think players should all just be of the "happy to be here" mindset and just take whatever the team is willing to give them.
Why would the Giants pay him by far the most if any WR? I think he should be the hughest paid, but absolutely no reason to make him the highest paid by far, thats just bad business
My man, 50 grand. Preach.
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Here's what's going to happen..
When the time comes, the Giants will make him the highest paid receiver in football. Just like every other team did with their star WR when they gave them a new deal.
That's really all there is to it.
Couldn't be any less of a story but people will keep trying to make it one.
Yup. And then guess what, within 12 months another WR will get more than him.
It is amazing how such "educated" fans don't see how this goes down every time. I get that the 24 hr networks like ESPN have to make a mountain out of a molehill, but the fact that stuff like this gets blown up on here is embarassing
LOL! True!
same pkayer still hurt played in a game overseas against the rams?
same player who talks up his teammates evwry chance he gets?
Same player who cried like a little girl about his team's effort. Same player who lost his s*** against a player that he dominates. Same player who made out with a kicking net. Yeah, okay.
You treat him like he should act like a humble Pop Warner kid, just happy to be on the field. He works hard, loves his team and loves the game.
But keep focusing on tweets and Facebook. You'll live as a very unhappy, miserable, shitty fan. Enjoy!
Same guy who did not show up in the playoffs. Same guy who showed up late at an event where kids were present where he was chilling the night before in LA. This dude is a douchebag. Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you. F*** out of here.
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same player who came back into the ravens game hurt and won them the game?
same pkayer still hurt played in a game overseas against the rams?
same player who talks up his teammates evwry chance he gets?
Same player who cried like a little girl about his team's effort. Same player who lost his s*** against a player that he dominates. Same player who made out with a kicking net. Yeah, okay.
Take a xanax, pal.
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and has never broken the law, hit a woman, got in a fight at a bar, got caught with drugs, DUI, or any of the prevalent crimes committed by professional athletes. He's involved with charities and just the other day made a kids wish by visiting him in the hospital.
You treat him like he should act like a humble Pop Warner kid, just happy to be on the field. He works hard, loves his team and loves the game.
But keep focusing on tweets and Facebook. You'll live as a very unhappy, miserable, shitty fan. Enjoy!
Same guy who did not show up in the playoffs. Same guy who showed up late at an event where kids were present where he was chilling the night before in LA. This dude is a douchebag. Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you. F*** out of here.
He had a bad game. No question.
But you know what tuff guy?
They don't make the playoffs without him dominating in the regular season.
And I didn't realize he played defense too.
Get the fuck outta here.
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Do you ever wonder when they show those videos of someone working out they're always in slow motion and it's purpose is to show the dedication and "relentless drive" of the individual. .
Why? What's so funny?
Is it that difficult to not insert your reply into the quote code?
What's with the apostrophes?
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Do you ever wonder when they show those videos of someone working out they're always in slow motion and it's purpose is to show the dedication and "relentless drive" of the individual. .
Why? What's so funny?
Is it that difficult to not insert your reply into the quote code?
Kivorka is a Fucking Moron. Pay no attention.
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The greatness on the field comes with the distractions that are unique to him. He is not going to shut up...he craves the attention.
What's with the apostrophes?
We need to get rid of this fucking O'Douls guy immediately.
As I said on the trade Beckham thread. I'd have no problem paying him IF Webb turns out to be good and we have a QB on a rookie contract for 3 years. Otherwise- good luck with that.
Your 2020 Giants- "Beckham and the UDFA Chuckle Bunch"
You still haven't learned how the cap works since that last post, so maybe don't be so eager to reference your own post?
Just stick to telling us all about the Midwest club scene.
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Apparently those like myself who are concerned about paying him like that "don't understand how the cap works."
As I said on the trade Beckham thread. I'd have no problem paying him IF Webb turns out to be good and we have a QB on a rookie contract for 3 years. Otherwise- good luck with that.
Your 2020 Giants- "Beckham and the UDFA Chuckle Bunch"
You still haven't learned how the cap works since that last post, so maybe don't be so eager to reference your own post?
Just stick to telling us all about the Midwest club scene.
You guys sure are fascinated with that story to keep bringing it up. Why don't you go checknow it out and report back? You would probably love it.
Why would the Giants pay him by far the most if any WR? I think he should be the hughest paid, but absolutely no reason to make him the highest paid by far, thats just bad business
I meant compared to other WRs next year only. Guys like Brown and Jones are making less than their AAV in 2018. If Odell signs a new deal sometime before next season, he'll likely be making nearly double Julio Jones' 2018 salary and at least 25% more than AB.
I think the video is significant. He broadens things when he says he wants to be paid more than a Quarterback.
I still say this has become reminescent of the Dallas board where they are blind to the pattern that Zeke brings.
We have a pattern that's developed with Odell.
it's seems to me that he's more interested in attention getting than winning.
I think it's outrageous and counterproductive to go out for warmups wiht no shirt on before the Packer game. Maybe that contributed to the easy passes he dropped or maybe it was the attention he brought on himself with the trip to Miami.
The net, the tantrum, the shirtless act, the wall punched and hand risked, Miami ....any one or two is allright, I think the cumulative is telling and concerning and forms a pattern.
I am worried that there's only one ball. And Odell needs records - if for nothing else than to bring him to the highest paid player in the game.
This is potential trouble.
He is assumming the Mantle (sic) that Jeter wore. But Jeter had rings, he performed on the big stage and he was about team. So instead of looking like Jeter at this point I am worried that Odell is going the way of Matt Harvey. Where the stardom is the thing and winning is secondary.
You might disagree with that and you might have cogent rebuttals, but certainly some weight has to be given to what's basically "diva" behavior from a kid who hasn't won and didn't perform well when given the big stage. And is always hogging the spotlight with attention getting behavior.
The ideal scenario for management is that OBJ plays this year for $1.8M, next year for $8.4M and the following year under the franchise tag. Not only is it cheaper than giving him a longterm deal now (or during the year), but the year to year nature of it keeps the team off the hook if he should suffer a catastrophic injury. But as ideal as that scenario is, management can't justify it to the fans and players as long as OBJ's contract demands are reasonable.
Now that OBJ is finally eligible for a contract extension after giving them three years of Pro Bowl play on a rookie deal that will pay him $1.8M this year, he has the right to demand an extension that would make him the highest paid WR in the league. If management denied him that, I think the fans would side with him and so would the locker room--even if he were to hold out over it! But if management can say they are willing, but he is being unreasonable, nobody would blame them--not the fans and not his teammates--for not caving to ridiculous demands. And then he gets stuck playing it one year at a time for a fraction of what he'd get in a long term extension and on top of that, he is the one taking on all the risk.
He would've been better off saying he wants to be the highest paid non-QB in the league. He has a much better argument comparing himself to Von Miller than he does comparing himself to Aaron Rodgers.
Hopefully he starts the season out strong or we could be line to see more tantrums on the field.
i think we better win it all this season...
It will be a king's ransom, and probably short of SuperBowl QB money, but cannot argue he is not worth it.
It will be a king's ransom, and probably short of SuperBowl QB money, but cannot argue he is not worth it.
There comes risk with that too...no?
But posturing for more money is what stars do. They all go about it differently, but it s part of the business. To me this does not come under the same category as other flamboyant and look at me moves OBJ has orchestrated.
There comes risk with that too...no?
p.s.-- Who knows for how long he will be as explosive as he currently is? It can go all of a sudden.
It will be interesting to see how he handles it if they are successful, but he gets fewer looks and touches. Which, if the new pieces all pan out as we hope, should be the case.
Beckham will come in under $20mm per season, IMO. Applying the 13% increase in yearly salary from Jones to Brown, and that brings Beckham to just over $19mm.
We can all assume whatever we want about the amounts but $25mm per is astronomical and something I don't think he would ever get from anyone, and he'd have to be a free agent to even breach those waters, something the Giants won't let happen.
Beckham will come in under $20mm per season, IMO. Applying the 13% increase in yearly salary from Jones to Brown, and that brings Beckham to just over $19mm.
We can all assume whatever we want about the amounts but $25mm per is astronomical and something I don't think he would ever get from anyone, and he'd have to be a free agent to even breach those waters, something the Giants won't let happen.
Tend to agree with all the above points. I would also add a bit to the $19M or so to get it done after this season.
he ven says that he still has a lot to prove to get that...
also to the people who say he will be mad if he is not getting touches while the tram wins, what proof do you have of this?
this is the same guy who said shepard was going to break all of his records and wouldnt go on nfl network unless they invited the whole wr group with him last year....he always mentions his teammates and not one teammate says a bad word about him...
also please stop with giants tradition, this is the same team that has employed, rapists, druggies and guys with domestic violence charges, stop with giants tradition...people forget how much trash that 2011 team talked in the media?
also chris canty said the entire team partied the night before a superbowl, landon collins said the defense partied on that same day beckham was in miami...
We all know that isn't happening. He's not going to be paid more than top, or even middle of the road QB's.
Yeah... but he's like... young.
And you're like... old. Very old. Too damn old.
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If he wants to be the highest paid player in the NFL, that's what it would take to make him that.
We all know that isn't happening. He's not going to be paid more than top, or even middle of the road QB's.
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I want to be the highest paid player, too.
Yeah... but he's like... young.
And you're like... old. Very old. Too damn old.
I prefer to think of myself as experienced.
My guess is he gets the contract somewhere between midseason and before 2018 OTAs start. I think he probably comes in under Von Miller's AAV, but gets a massive (perhaps record setting) guarantee and signing bonus. My guess is it's a 4 year deal so he can cash in again before he turns 30 years-old.
Beckham will come in under $20mm per season, IMO. Applying the 13% increase in yearly salary from Jones to Brown, and that brings Beckham to just over $19mm.
We can all assume whatever we want about the amounts but $25mm per is astronomical and something I don't think he would ever get from anyone, and he'd have to be a free agent to even breach those waters, something the Giants won't let happen.
UConn- clearly you do not understand the magical NY Giants Salary Cap- where we can use pixie dust to structure a contract that allows us to somehow put 25 million dollars into one players pocket and not hamstring the creation of a balanced team.
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Brown is at $17mm per year, Green at $15mm per year Jones at $14.25mm per year, and everyone else is $14mm or under all without various amounts of guaranteed money.
Beckham will come in under $20mm per season, IMO. Applying the 13% increase in yearly salary from Jones to Brown, and that brings Beckham to just over $19mm.
We can all assume whatever we want about the amounts but $25mm per is astronomical and something I don't think he would ever get from anyone, and he'd have to be a free agent to even breach those waters, something the Giants won't let happen.
UConn- clearly you do not understand the magical NY Giants Salary Cap- where we can use pixie dust to structure a contract that allows us to somehow put 25 million dollars into one players pocket and not hamstring the creation of a balanced team.
ok then how does atlanta do it? and they are about to pay freeman
how do the packers do it?
how do the steelers do it?
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Brown is at $17mm per year, Green at $15mm per year Jones at $14.25mm per year, and everyone else is $14mm or under all without various amounts of guaranteed money.
Beckham will come in under $20mm per season, IMO. Applying the 13% increase in yearly salary from Jones to Brown, and that brings Beckham to just over $19mm.
We can all assume whatever we want about the amounts but $25mm per is astronomical and something I don't think he would ever get from anyone, and he'd have to be a free agent to even breach those waters, something the Giants won't let happen.
UConn- clearly you do not understand the magical NY Giants Salary Cap- where we can use pixie dust to structure a contract that allows us to somehow put 25 million dollars into one players pocket and not hamstring the creation of a balanced team.
ok then how does atlanta do it? and they are about to pay freeman
how do the packers do it?
how do the steelers do it?
They sacrifice quality at other positions and HOPE that they can cobble together production with scrubs.
Do you want Kevin Lewis and Mark Herzlich starting at LB, because paying a WR 25 million and a QB a market rate salary is how you get those guys starting.
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In comment 13541822 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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In comment 13541591 UConn4523 said:
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Brown is at $17mm per year, Green at $15mm per year Jones at $14.25mm per year, and everyone else is $14mm or under all without various amounts of guaranteed money.
Beckham will come in under $20mm per season, IMO. Applying the 13% increase in yearly salary from Jones to Brown, and that brings Beckham to just over $19mm.
We can all assume whatever we want about the amounts but $25mm per is astronomical and something I don't think he would ever get from anyone, and he'd have to be a free agent to even breach those waters, something the Giants won't let happen.
UConn- clearly you do not understand the magical NY Giants Salary Cap- where we can use pixie dust to structure a contract that allows us to somehow put 25 million dollars into one players pocket and not hamstring the creation of a balanced team.
ok then how does atlanta do it? and they are about to pay freeman
how do the packers do it?
how do the steelers do it?
They sacrifice quality at other positions and HOPE that they can cobble together production with scrubs.
Do you want Kevin Lewis and Mark Herzlich starting at LB, because paying a WR 25 million and a QB a market rate salary is how you get those guys starting.
That's not what they do. They draft well. In the Packers and Steelers you have two organizations that have historically drafted well and Atlanta lately hasn't been too far behind.
Paying Beckham what he's worth will not hamstring the team any more than it has the Steelers and Falcons (who, by the way, both made the playoffs last year... with the latter making it to the Super Bowl).
In cap year 2020 the Giants can exit or extend the contracts of Vernon, JPP, Harrison, and Jenkins with minimal dead space.
There will be cost additions if Collins, Pugh, etc. are re-signed. Which hopefully they will be. Signing good players is a good thing.
Paying great players has all types financial benefits, both for the cap and the real finances of the team.
Really good players offset the cost required to get production. OBJ makes literally everyone on the offense better, and will allow for lower paid players to contribute.
OBJ also puts a disproportionate amount of money in the pockets of ownership - he will be paid well by the Giants.
As far as the armchair shrinks diagnosing him and naive idiots vilifying him...ugh.
As far as the armchair shrinks diagnosing him and naive idiots vilifying him...ugh.
richard sherman said the same thing, he said players should walk until they get guaranteed contractz...
this is not some new thing
on BBI. I am not on here to get into a pissing contest about
Odell. I will say this much, him and his agent are slightly
delusional if they believe in the future he will get QB type
of money. You can try to get what you can, don't blame
a player for that...but ain't happening!
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The big deal is that he is in camp and not holding out like Aaron Donald. Another young top player at his position. And honestly, Beckham had every right to hold out - as have other superstar Giants in the past.
That would have been a story.
This isn't one.
Move on.
Football players essentially risk their lives for 4 months and then hope their team chooses to bring them back. It's insane.