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What can we expect out of Bobby Hart ?

Manny in CA : 7/29/2017 10:24 pm
While all the attention has been on LT Flowers, RT Hart has been less than impressive (not playing the last game and playoff game against GB).

The Giants drafted Bisnowaty late and have ex USC Wheeler and possibly Fluker as competition (something tells me that one of them will take Hart's job); as a big improvement ? Probably not.
I'm not as optimistic about the rookies as you are.  
81_Great_Dane : 7/29/2017 10:27 pm : link
But I'd be happy for one of those guys to step up - be it Hart, Fluker or one of the rookies.
Bobby Hart  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 7/29/2017 10:29 pm : link
is not even 23 yet. He is a kid. He worked hard in the off season program. So it might be realistic to expect him to be better than he was last year. There is a reson why the Giants believe in him.

Time will tell.
If the NYG never get  
bigbluehoya : 7/29/2017 10:31 pm : link
Another damn thing from Hart, the return was still not worse than average. He was a 7th round pick.
From the early reports  
Jay on the Island : 7/29/2017 11:06 pm : link
It seems that Fluker is strictly a guard. He is in good shape and he worked hard but several have noted how choppy his footwork is and that he can only be relied on at guard.

Hart is in great shape as well and he has worked harder than anyone to keep the starting job and I hope that he earns it because that would allow Bisnowaty and Wheeler time to develop. I haven't been this excited about the backup offensive linemen in a very long time.
23 a late round pick  
grizz299 : 7/30/2017 4:55 am : link
thrust into a starting position at a critical spot.
I am cautiously optimistic.
. Second year with offensive line coach
. Second year starting
. Superb work ethic
. Ellison helps him
. Anticipated improvement with Jerry (he's been to the offseason camp again) and/or Fluker help.
it might not be relevant, but when OBJ was having one of his hissy's last year, it's Hart that grabbed him and talked harshly to him. At the time I thought the kid has a sense of self and has to have some regard to get in OBJ's face. I think he gets the "David Diehl" label we've been looking to hang on some many people. Overachiever, tough, wonderful workethic, all he can be and rises up in big occasions and a team leader.
Overall I am worried that the 'off-season giddies' are having their way with me, because i think we're looking at the best team in football. And if the line comes together (and I think that's odd's on to happening) we're looking at a team with no weaknesses.

The best part is going against JPP and OV  
George from PA : 7/30/2017 5:41 am : link
We will know what we have before the real bullets fly.

I can not I matinee any rookie this year would do better....possibly Fluker.

But we do seem to have some young players with potent.

We still could use a veteran.....as back=up and help teach the kids.....or step in if no one steps up
Right Now, Bobby Hart Has Out-Performed...  
M.S. : 7/30/2017 6:51 am : link

...his draft position to a greater extent than our LT.

Nuff said.
Great comments by all.  
section125 : 7/30/2017 6:56 am : link
I do think he is a bit slow a foot. He gets beat by speed rusher with wide rushes. Not sure how much training can improve foot speed. Of course all it takes is fractions of a second to go from hero to zero. If he gets just a touch quicker he will be fine. Of course better knowledge of opponent and playbook helps quicken the game.

I did notice, once he locks up someone, game over, he does not get beat. Think he is quite powerful so I can see where the guard label came from.
My opinion?  
Big Blue '56 : 7/30/2017 7:36 am : link
Ya gotta have Hart!
To paraphrase Rick Pitino,  
Doomster : 7/30/2017 8:34 am : link
"Kareem McKenzie is not walking though that door".....

We all want Flowers to play like a first rounder....can he possibly change his technique against speed rushers? we want Pugh and Richburg to be healthy again....Was it an injury or film that was the reason for Richburg's fall from grace? but the right side of the line is a cluster f*ck, and we are asking late round picks and another potential bust to step in and perform miracles...

If Eli can get rid of the ball quickly, it will negate their faults....if he has to hold onto it longer, better hope the TE's and Backs do a better job of blocking....

This offensive line is what it is....if there is improvement, it might be slight......but somehow it has to play somewhat better than last season...
Early reports are promising...  
Klaatu : 7/30/2017 8:52 am : link
But as others have said we really won't know until the pads come on and the real hitting begins. This year it seems that the competition is a little stiffer and that can only help, but I think a "wait and see" approach is our best bet for now.
RE: My opinion?  
M.S. : 7/30/2017 9:11 am : link
In comment 13543294 Big Blue '56 said:
Quote:
Ya gotta have Hart!


You've gotta have heart
All you really need is heart
When the odds are sayin' you'll never win
That's when the grin should start

You've gotta have heart
Miles 'n miles n' miles of heart
Oh, it's fine to be a genius of course
But keep that old horse
Before the cart
First you've gotta have heart

I hear he plays  
Beer Man : 7/30/2017 9:32 am : link
with a lot of Hart
RE: RE: My opinion?  
Big Blue '56 : 7/30/2017 9:34 am : link
In comment 13543323 M.S. said:
Quote:
In comment 13543294 Big Blue '56 said:


Quote:


Ya gotta have Hart!



You've gotta have heart
All you really need is heart
When the odds are sayin' you'll never win
That's when the grin should start

You've gotta have heart
Miles 'n miles n' miles of heart
Oh, it's fine to be a genius of course
But keep that old horse
Before the cart
First you've gotta have heart


👍👍
Hart's gonna start  
SGMen : 7/30/2017 10:55 am : link
He'll hold his own, and if he or Flowers need help we have a solid blocking TE in R. Ellison.
Damn  
Doomster : 7/30/2017 11:13 am : link
M.S. : 9:11 am : link : reply
In comment 13543294 Big Blue '56 said:
Quote:
Ya gotta have Hart!


You've gotta have heart
All you really need is heart
When the odds are sayin' you'll never win
That's when the grin should start

You've gotta have heart
Miles 'n miles n' miles of heart
Oh, it's fine to be a genius of course
But keep that old horse
Before the cart
First you've gotta have heart


YANKEES!!!!!!!!
My expectations for Hart are low  
Milton : 7/30/2017 11:38 am : link
And my expectations for Bisnowaty are such that I'm hoping he can show enough to pass Hart on the depth chart. Nothing against Hart personally, I just don't think he has the athletic ability to be anything more than a guy you are always trying to replace. Bisnowaty may not be the next Karl Nelson or Kareem McKenzie, but he has enough size and athletic ability to be a plus player at right tackle.
With Fluker and Bisnowaty get reps alongside each other...  
Milton : 7/30/2017 11:44 am : link
...on the second unit, there will be familiarity if they both replace the current starters, Jerry and Hart. I'm not down on Jerry the way others are, but I love Fluker's potential. And Fluker and Bisnowaty bring a lot more nasty to the table than do Jerry and Hart, which is what you want from the right side of your OL.

Athletes on the left side, ass-kickers on the right!
We got everything we could expect out of Hart  
Jimmy Googs : 7/30/2017 11:50 am : link
he played Offensive Tackle for a NFL playoff-level team in 2016.

He didn't do it well but, seemingly, beat out the rest of the "competition" the Front Office has put up against him thus far.

Improvement  
Bluesbreaker : 7/31/2017 10:43 am : link
He got a lot of playing time so I am sure he worked
on strength and conditioning . Not sure what one would
expect from a late round draft pick . If he is dedicated
to getting stronger and well conditioned I would expect
him to play much better in hopes he can develop into
a legitimate starter at worst a solid back up .
unlikely that Wheeler  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/31/2017 12:00 pm : link
is going replace Bobby Hart

He's interesting because of his college production, but that hit a snag in his Senior year; and looking at him up close, he has smaller feet than I do and I'm 6'1" size 12. His top part looks like an NFL lineman -- but not the bottom part. It's hard to imagine him taking on NFL caliber Defenses right now.

We'll see more next week - but that's my impression.
Admire the fire he displays on the field  
JonC : 7/31/2017 1:30 pm : link
but agree he's a low ceiling prospect we're looking to upgrade, rooting more for the light goes on for Fluker and his talent.
I like  
dorgan : 7/31/2017 2:12 pm : link
the kid's attitude. I wouldn't bet against him starting again. He's got some grit and won't give it up easily.

Competition is a beautiful thing..

He (hey ?) have to be better - and significantly so  
grizz299 : 8/7/2017 11:32 am : link
1. Second year starter.
2. Second year with the same off. coach.
3. Line is intact and should develop continuity.
4. 22 years old
5. Addition of Ellison **
6. Extensive workouts in the off-season.

Anyone of those suggests improvement,the cumulative impact has to be significant. That doesn't mean he'll be good, just that he'll be better.
And "better" should be enough.
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