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NFT: Game of Thrones - Season 7 Episode 4: The Spoil(er)s of War

Big Blue Blogger : 8/1/2017 2:55 pm
In a season marked by extensive leaks and detective work, this might be the episode that has been spoiled in the greatest detail. And that was before the script was allegedly hacked this week. I'll try to avoid any of the leaked material. That said, the Episode Four preview gave away a lot, and the prior spoilers color the interpretation of certain shots. In short, READ NO FURTHER IF YOU WISH TO REMAIN UNSULLIED.

1) Cersei appears to have secured the Iron Bank's support, contingent on safe delivery of the Tyrell gold.

2) Jaime has taken possession of the loot that provides the episode's title, but he looks less than confident about transporting it. Long, Westworldesque establishing shots suggest that he and Bronn have a lot of open ground to cross, which could be a problem when the enemy has a Dothraki horde (unbeatable in the open plain) and three you-know-whats.

3) Speaking of the you-know-whats, Daenerys has lost her Westerosi allies and most of her patience with Tyrion's clever plans. It's just about "Dracarys" time. I figured Dany would hold her, um, fire for another week or two; but when a preview closes with a shot of Drogon, somebody's gonna get lit up.

4) Jon is exploring caverns by torchlight. Is that obsidian on the walls?

5) Theon appears to get his groove back - at least enough to pull a rowboat ashore with a determined expression.

6) A lone, diminutive rider eyes Winterfell from a distance. By all appearances, a girl returns home.

7) Sansa exudes administrative competence.

8) Baelish exudes whatever it is Baelish always exudes.

9) Pod takes another beating - probably from Brienne, but at some point he and his magic dick are going to see actual combat.

10) A dagger - possibly one we've been wondering about for quite a while - figures prominently.

11) Another quiet week north of the Wall. I'm not sure who's slower - Gendry in a boat or the Night's King on horseback.
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Ten Ton Hammer : 8/6/2017 10:16 pm : link
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To what extend Arya knows about Littlefinger's machinations? Is he on her list?



He is.

And Bran even said so tonight when he was talking to the both of them.



Littlefinger is not on the list. I don't think Arya knows any of his schemes.




How can Bran be wrong about something? Isn't he supposed to know everything?



bran said cersei is on the list, that's why Arya was going to kings landing.

Did he say Littlefinger was on the list? I didn't hear that.


Crap, I'm sorry. Now I'm the one not hearing things correctly.
RE: That does look like Thor  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2017 10:17 pm : link
In comment 13551143 ZGiants98 said:
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was he getting a cameo?


Supposedly.
RE: RE: That does look like Thor  
ZGiants98 : 8/6/2017 10:17 pm : link
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was he getting a cameo?



Supposedly.


Nice!
"I noticed you staring at her 'good heart.'"  
bceagle05 : 8/6/2017 10:19 pm : link
Davos is the man.
This episode went faster than the last  
Canton : 8/6/2017 10:29 pm : link
I didn't want it to end. HBO has stepped up its game.



UCONN,

I know you haven't been happy with th show as of late. What do you u think of this season thus far?

This episode..
I thought the visual of Jaime going down  
Giantfan in skinland : 8/6/2017 10:30 pm : link
was cheesy. But I do like the way it brings things full circle. The start of the chaos for the Stark family was us seeing Bran falling after Jaime pushes him out the window. Just as the Starks are finally reuniting, we see Jaime falling.
Convenient water  
PEEJ : 8/6/2017 10:32 pm : link
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RE: I thought the visual of Jaime going down  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/6/2017 10:32 pm : link
In comment 13551153 Giantfan in skinland said:
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was cheesy. But I do like the way it brings things full circle. The start of the chaos for the Stark family was us seeing Bran falling after Jaime pushes him out the window. Just as the Starks are finally reuniting, we see Jaime falling.

I didn't make the connection until you wrote that. You're right.
What did Bran say to Littlefinger  
ZGiants98 : 8/6/2017 10:33 pm : link
right before they were interrupted? I couldn't understand it.
RE: What did Bran say to Littlefinger  
Canton : 8/6/2017 10:36 pm : link
In comment 13551156 ZGiants98 said:
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right before they were interrupted? I couldn't understand it.


Bran, in reply to littlefingers comment, " chaos" Bran Saud chaos is a ladder..

At that very moment, littlefinger realizes Bran is on to him.
RE: What did Bran say to Littlefinger  
KevinBBWC : 8/6/2017 10:36 pm : link
In comment 13551156 ZGiants98 said:
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right before they were interrupted? I couldn't understand it.


Chaos is a ladder. Had to google cause I couldn't make it out either.
RE: What did Bran say to Littlefinger  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2017 10:37 pm : link
In comment 13551156 ZGiants98 said:
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right before they were interrupted? I couldn't understand it.


Chaos is a ladder (like Littlefinger said to Varys earlier)
RE: What did Bran say to Littlefinger  
Bill L : 8/6/2017 10:37 pm : link
In comment 13551156 ZGiants98 said:
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right before they were interrupted? I couldn't understand it.
"Chaos is a ladder".
Those with better memories (I cheated and read it" will tell you that littlefinger said it a long time ago. Bran throwing it back to him tells little finger that bran is on to him.
Thanks guys!  
ZGiants98 : 8/6/2017 10:38 pm : link
Had no idea he said it or wouldn't have made the connection even if I did. lol
Loved seeing Drogon fuck shit up.  
BNY Giants Club : 8/6/2017 10:38 pm : link
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Yes I googled  
pjcas18 : 8/6/2017 10:39 pm : link
it, I couldn't make the words out and I didn't remember it, and Bill L is spot on, it's to let Littlefinger know that Bran is omniscient.
When Dany sought Jon's counsel  
bceagle05 : 8/6/2017 10:41 pm : link
I was hoping he was gonna channel Mance Rayder and tell her to light the biggest fire the South has ever seen.
I could see Qyburn poisoning the arrows  
ZGiants98 : 8/6/2017 10:41 pm : link
and Dragon dying.
Would make WAY more sense than trying to kill  
ZGiants98 : 8/6/2017 10:42 pm : link
a flying dragon with a head shot/heart shot.
RE: This episode went faster than the last  
UConn4523 : 8/6/2017 10:42 pm : link
In comment 13551152 Canton said:
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I didn't want it to end. HBO has stepped up its game.



UCONN,

I know you haven't been happy with th show as of late. What do you u think of this season thus far?

This episode..


It's been solid, parts I like parts I don't. I still find the strategy more interesting than some of the battles. The battle tonight was solid, but once they dragons come it puts a damper on it. Would love to see the Dothraki fight straight up against the enemy instead. I enjoyed they Arya reunion much more than Brans. Also enjoyed Bronns exchanges with Jaime.

One thing that really bothers me is that absolutely nothing is happening in the north while this is all going on in the south. I realize there are different timelines that we have to assume but it's hard to hear about winter coming and winter now here and still nothing from the dead marching.
They did say that the army of the dead  
PEEJ : 8/6/2017 10:45 pm : link
was approaching Eastwatch
Man the Dothraki were badass in this  
ZGiants98 : 8/6/2017 10:46 pm : link
There was a ton of Lannister on Dothraki one on one before Dragon showed up and they still interweaved it perfectly IMO.

So Children of the Forest create the White Walkers to defeat man  
ZGiants98 : 8/6/2017 10:47 pm : link
Then they band together with Man as far south as Dragonstone?
"Who taught you how to do that?"  
Jackson Ellis : 8/6/2017 10:53 pm : link
"No one."

Great scene.
The Arya/Sansa reunion was very well done...  
ZGiants98 : 8/6/2017 10:59 pm : link
The spar with Brienne and Arya was awesome. I even liked the Theon/Jon reunion.


How about "Dickon". Hahahahahaha -Bronn
That episode was insane!!  
mfsd : 8/6/2017 11:25 pm : link
Seriously, that battle scene was better than about 85% of the movies battles I've ever seen.

made perfect sense for Daenerys, she needed to show what she was capable of, without murdering thousands of innocents - finding the Lannister army exposed was a perfect target.

I'm not going to quibble about little details like how did she still have enough ships to ferry the Dothraki to the battlefield, and how was Euron not around and lurking to disrupt them - story's moving at too fast a pace now, and they're hitting all the high points

Good call by zgiants with the theory of a poisoned spear...I could definitely see that happening, which would raise the stakes significantly

And the Arya/Sansa reunion was well done - they hated each other growing up, would have been wrong to make it all sappy - better that it was solemn at first, then their affection came out

And love how Arya got to show her skills..they're clearly all scared of what she's become

2 straight brilliant episodes
I swear Bronn was a goner  
spike : 8/6/2017 11:26 pm : link
I mean someone has to die.

But he saved Jaime's butt one more time.

I suspect Varys and Tyrion are on their way out of Danerys' court, while Jon and Davos are on their way in.

Littlefinger might try to kill Bran, because his past schemes are all at risk of being revealed.
RE: I swear Bronn was a goner  
mfsd : 8/6/2017 11:31 pm : link
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I mean someone has to die.

But he saved Jaime's butt one more time.

I suspect Varys and Tyrion are on their way out of Danerys' court, while Jon and Davos are on their way in.

Littlefinger might try to kill Bran, because his past schemes are all at risk of being revealed.


I thought Bronn was doomed too

I'm strangely really hoping Daenerys and Jon consummate their budding "partnership" right before Bran informs them of the whole aunt/nephew thing
I thought Euron was up by Castle Black in the Bay  
ZGiants98 : 8/6/2017 11:34 pm : link
Destroying all Greyworms ships and keeping them boxed in.
Unbelievable battle  
Kyle in NY : 8/6/2017 11:50 pm : link
Just incredible to watch, though quite one sided. Maybe the most impressive looking sequence since Hardhome.

And also really interesting to see a battle with key main characters on each side. Hasn't really happened yet, at least not a battle that was shown on screen. Really seemed like Jamie was about to go out there.
How do we think Jaime gets out if this one?  
Pete in 'Vliet : 8/6/2017 11:51 pm : link
Or does he? He was sinking awfully fast with all his armer + gold hand.
I had trouble deciphering some dialogue, too.  
Mr. Bungle : 8/6/2017 11:53 pm : link
I watch on HBO NOW on Roku, and the * button allows you to turn on subtitles.

Huge help.
I'm assuming Bronn gets him  
Giantfan in skinland : 8/6/2017 11:55 pm : link
But it is pushing it. Saving a guy in that scenario would not be easy...especially in what looked to be pretty murky water.
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ZGiants98 : 8/6/2017 11:56 pm : link
In comment 13551210 Giantfan in skinland said:
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But it is pushing it. Saving a guy in that scenario would not be easy...especially in what looked to be pretty murky water.


It showed them both in the water so they should be right next to each other.
IGN  
ZGiants98 : 8/6/2017 11:57 pm : link
Writeup. Perfect score tonight.
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Even if he was saved  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/7/2017 12:02 am : link
he'd absolutely have to be a captive, right?
Question - did Randall Tarly bite the dust?  
mfsd : 8/7/2017 12:02 am : link
Thought we saw him get burned, but was hard to see if he was really finished

RE: How do we think Jaime gets out if this one?  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/7/2017 12:03 am : link
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Or does he? He was sinking awfully fast with all his armer + gold hand.


I think Tyrion demands that he gets fished out and Jaime and Bronn become Dany's prisoners. Perhaps Tyrion will return the favor to his brother and let him/them escape.

LOVED THE ep.
- Littlefinger's face dropping because of Bran was great
- The Arya/Brienne face-off was excellent. I wasn't quite sure what to make of Sansa and Littlefinger's reactions
- The Dragon/Dothraki attack was complete kick-ass.
RE: Question - did Randall Tarly bite the dust?  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/7/2017 12:04 am : link
In comment 13551215 mfsd said:
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Thought we saw him get burned, but was hard to see if he was really finished


I thought that was him, but I wasn't sure.
Another note - when Bran asks Littlefinger if he knows who  
mfsd : 8/7/2017 12:19 am : link
the dagger belonged to...we can likely assume Bran already knows the answer
After Bran's comments about the list  
GMenLTS : 8/7/2017 12:20 am : link
and then that spar with Brienne, Sansa looked a little freaked out. Bran is now a super brain and Arya is suddenly a stellar warrior who's apparently been away on a revenge tour all this time crossing people off a list.

Fantastic episode all around. Still lots of shit to go down in three episodes.
RE: Another note - when Bran asks Littlefinger if he knows who  
GMenLTS : 8/7/2017 12:21 am : link
In comment 13551223 mfsd said:
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the dagger belonged to...we can likely assume Bran already knows the answer


At this point we can assume Bran knows literally everything.
RE: RE: How do we think Jaime gets out if this one?  
eclipz928 : 8/7/2017 12:23 am : link
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Or does he? He was sinking awfully fast with all his armer + gold hand.



I think Tyrion demands that he gets fished out and Jaime and Bronn become Dany's prisoners. Perhaps Tyrion will return the favor to his brother and let him/them escape.

LOVED THE ep.
- Littlefinger's face dropping because of Bran was great
- The Arya/Brienne face-off was excellent. I wasn't quite sure what to make of Sansa and Littlefinger's reactions
- The Dragon/Dothraki attack was complete kick-ass.

Sansa's reaction was interesting. I took it as her finally coming to the realization that Arya is not the same girl she knew. That along with Bran being so far gone is probably causing her to feel more isolated. Right now little finger may be the only person she feels she knows, which might lead to her entrusting him again.
Thor confirmed  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/7/2017 12:26 am : link
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2726032-noah-syndergaard-makes-cameo-appearance-in-latest-game-of-thrones-episode?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national
I thought perhaps it was Dickon  
Mike in Marin : 8/7/2017 12:45 am : link
who saved Jaime (albeit perhaps temporarily) from death by dragon fire. Bronn wasn't on a horse anymore and when I replayed the scene, I thought maybe it was Dickon.

It may not matter much....or it might. Who knows with this crazy show.
Was that a little nod to 'Jaws'?  
Big Blue Blogger : 8/7/2017 5:38 am : link
When Jerome Flynn was aiming that scorpion bolt at Drogon, I could almost hear Roy Scheider telling the shark to "Smile, you son of a bitch!"
RE: Even if he was saved  
5BowlsSoon : 8/7/2017 7:51 am : link
In comment 13551214 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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he'd absolutely have to be a captive, right?


I would say yes to that question but I suppose it is possible he can sneak up from the water with no one noticing....but that seems most unlikely. And of course, Tyrion will make sure if brother is captured that nothing happens to him. In fact, Tyron seems to be useless to the Queen's cause so maybe they send him in another direction. Can't imagine why he would want to fight for Cersei though.
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Pete in 'Vliet : 8/7/2017 8:09 am : link
In comment 13551272 5BowlsSoon said:
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he'd absolutely have to be a captive, right?



I would say yes to that question but I suppose it is possible he can sneak up from the water with no one noticing....but that seems most unlikely. And of course, Tyrion will make sure if brother is captured that nothing happens to him. In fact, Tyron seems to be useless to the Queen's cause so maybe they send him in another direction. Can't imagine why he would want to fight for Cersei though.


Useless to the Queen's cause? Didn't Tyrion just almost single handedly bring Danaerys and Jon Snow to a compromise that could lead to a larger ally than Dorne and Highgarden combined?
Pete is right about Tyrion.  
Big Blue Blogger : 8/7/2017 8:40 am : link
He's a good Hand (almost as good as his father), although he's no match for Jaime or Euron as a military strategist.

Most sources agree that it was Bronn who pushed Jaime into the water. I'm willing to take their word for it, rather than perform my own frame-by-frame analysis or search for leaked script fragments.

As for whether Jaime and Bronn will be captured if/when they surface, here's one thing to consider: the body of water in which they submerged almost certainly wasn't a lake. The Lannister army was marching along the Gold Road, paralleling Blackwater Rush toward King's Landing, which sits at the western end of Blackwater Bay. There's no lake there (the God's Eye is well to the north). Anyone seeming wet refuge from dragonfire would jump into the Rush. If J&B manage to follow the current downriver, it will take them right to King's Landing, out of Daenerys's reach.
this was a great episode  
George from PA : 8/7/2017 8:41 am : link
I even loved the cave scene..and definitely sexual tension between the 2 of them....

Drogo was amazing
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