who absolutely have ZERO first hand knowledge of certain body parts, actually think they KNOW what they are talking about.
What a touch of arrogance that is, Dr. James Andrews may be
a "noted orthopedic surgeon", it doesn't mean he is not wrong on occasion. We all remember as a paid consultant for the
Redskins, who was on the sidelines with his stocking burgundy
and gold cap on how both he and Shanny blundered big time
on the RG III situation during that playoff game years ago.
Anybody who had knee surgery in the past knew he was about to
go down big time with his knee in that game. Yet, they allowed it to happen. He was obviously wrong in this situation, he should have insisted that Shanny remove him from the game, when it was obvious what was about to happen!
So noted orthopedic surgeons do make mistakes, they are not
fool proof, and I never said I know more than him, but I do
know what I see. I like when somebody presents a link
from the end of January, and we are now in August, that is recent, LOL. That's right you stretch or strain ligaments and cartliage, you do not sprain them, they use that expression sprain as typical football lexicon. A sideline reporter or a coach, or a reporter might use it, not an orthopedic specialist. My work is done here!
You're either 75 years old, new to the internet, or both.
The link is from January because you said "the better question is why he didn't have surgery when the injury first happened in 2016"
So you knowing zero about the patient, never met with the patient for a consultation, never looked at MRI's, x-rays, even conducted a physical exam of the patient are equipped to say he should have had surgery in December. When actual medical professionals disagreed.
And Andrews was one of two doctors he met with. So two professional orthopedists said no surgery, but Carson53 from BBI said he should have had surgery.
Well there you go, if only you were Tannehill's doctor instead of actual doctors maybe the Dolphins wouldn't be in this mess.
You should write them a strongly worded letter, isn't that what your generation does?
there supposed to be some intentional humor here, or is it completely coincidental??
Quote:
I love when people
Carson53 : 10:34 am : link : reply
who absolutely have ZERO first hand knowledge of certain body parts, actually think they KNOW what they are talking about.
So a guy with ZERO first hand knowledge of the injury itself thinks they KNOW what they are talking about because he had knee injuries? Please tell me that this goes against your history of posting ridiculously dumb shit.
I know it isn't, but one could always hold out hope.
who absolutely have ZERO first hand knowledge of certain body parts, actually think they KNOW what they are talking about.
What a touch of arrogance that is, Dr. James Andrews may be
a "noted orthopedic surgeon", it doesn't mean he is not wrong on occasion. We all remember as a paid consultant for the
Redskins, who was on the sidelines with his stocking burgundy
and gold cap on how both he and Shanny blundered big time
on the RG III situation during that playoff game years ago.
Anybody who had knee surgery in the past knew he was about to
go down big time with his knee in that game. Yet, they allowed it to happen. He was obviously wrong in this situation, he should have insisted that Shanny remove him from the game, when it was obvious what was about to happen!
So noted orthopedic surgeons do make mistakes, they are not
fool proof, and I never said I know more than him, but I do
know what I see. I like when somebody presents a link
from the end of January, and we are now in August, that is recent, LOL. That's right you stretch or strain ligaments and cartliage, you do not sprain them, they use that expression sprain as typical football lexicon. A sideline reporter or a coach, or a reporter might use it, not an orthopedic specialist. My work is done here!
You're either 75 years old, new to the internet, or both.
The link is from January because you said "the better question is why he didn't have surgery when the injury first happened in 2016"
So you knowing zero about the patient, never met with the patient for a consultation, never looked at MRI's, x-rays, even conducted a physical exam of the patient are equipped to say he should have had surgery in December. When actual medical professionals disagreed.
And Andrews was one of two doctors he met with. So two professional orthopedists said no surgery, but Carson53 from BBI said he should have had surgery.
Well there you go, if only you were Tannehill's doctor instead of actual doctors maybe the Dolphins wouldn't be in this mess.
You should write them a strongly worded letter, isn't that what your generation does?
...
Your generation is much better, LOL.
And no I am not 75, I am in my early 60's.
BTW, how many knee surgeries have you had sunny boy?
They didn't even need to amputate it so I think the doctors screwed up with JPP. They could have saved his fingers. I know, because I've had finger injuries before.
I've also slept at Holiday Inn Expresses numerous times. So there's that.
They didn't even need to amputate it so I think the doctors screwed up with JPP. They could have saved his fingers. I know, because I've had finger injuries before.
I've also slept at Holiday Inn Expresses numerous times. So there's that.
I broke a couple fingers, your point, that's right,
you don't have one. I actually played some semi-pro ball,
in another sport, how about you?
Or the other idiots that think they know what they are talking about on this thread, when they don't have
first hand experience. I have never hurt that particular body part, but I know an awful lot about it, it's called
flawed logic. Flawed logic is a very popular theme on BBI.
It comes with the territory. You have a few on here who are
so dense and obtuse, but they think they are authorities
on everything. I find it both arrogant and bemusing.
Or a physician's assistant in an orthopedic practice?
Or a nurse?
or an MRI tech
or an x-ray tech
Or a PT
or anything even somewhat related to the medical field
and most importantly when did you look at Tannehill's results to make your diagnosis that he should have surgery back in December?
I'm going to guess the answer is no and never to all these questions and you're showing your ass on this thread.
.
Good evasive answer, have worked in a hospital for a couple
years in the past, and you? He had a torn ACL, did I need
to look at his MRI? Since you don't know this obviously,
X-Rays don't show tears, they show breaks or fractures,
that's why they quickly send athletes for a MRI.
Just keep talking, you're good at that.
what I am doing is the opposite of arrogant. I am saying the qualified medical professionals are the ones who I trust in making the determination about the course of medical treatment. Not someone on their couch who isn't even in a medical field.
You are saying, and this is f-ing awesome, you never even hurt your knee, but you hurt other body parts, and played semi-pro ball in a different sport, but...
you know better than James Andrews and the Dolphins team doctors who actually examined and treated Tannehill how he should have been treated.
but the people questioning your commentary here are arrogant? I don't think arrogant means what you think it means.
I'm sure you mean well, but when someone questions you about something you go off the rails.
one of the worst posters on here, I don't want to debate you on this or anything, I'm just going to avoid you from now on.
there supposed to be some intentional humor here, or is it completely coincidental??
Quote:
I love when people
Carson53 : 10:34 am : link : reply
who absolutely have ZERO first hand knowledge of certain body parts, actually think they KNOW what they are talking about.
So a guy with ZERO first hand knowledge of the injury itself thinks they KNOW what they are talking about because he had knee injuries? Please tell me that this goes against your history of posting ridiculously dumb shit.
I know it isn't, but one could always hold out hope.
I'd settle for him having some first hand knowledge or word wrap and formatting so that his posts are even readable.
The carriage-return crowd is starting to be as predictable as the rule of Z.
what I am doing is the opposite of arrogant. I am saying the qualified medical professionals are the ones who I trust in making the determination about the course of medical treatment. Not someone on their couch who isn't even in a medical field.
You are saying, and this is f-ing awesome, you never even hurt your knee, but you hurt other body parts, and played semi-pro ball in a different sport, but...
you know better than James Andrews and the Dolphins team doctors who actually examined and treated Tannehill how he should have been treated.
but the people questioning your commentary here are arrogant? I don't think arrogant means what you think it means.
I'm sure you mean well, but when someone questions you about something you go off the rails.
one of the worst posters on here, I don't want to debate you on this or anything, I'm just going to avoid you from now on.
you win.
I have already said on this thread I have had two knee surgeries, unfortunately you don't read well, par for the course with some on here. I care that you are going to avoid me. I do not go off the rails, I think when somebody
doesn't have first hand knowledge of a situation, they are the ones talking out of their ass, like you.
what I am doing is the opposite of arrogant. I am saying the qualified medical professionals are the ones who I trust in making the determination about the course of medical treatment. Not someone on their couch who isn't even in a medical field.
You are saying, and this is f-ing awesome, you never even hurt your knee, but you hurt other body parts, and played semi-pro ball in a different sport, but...
you know better than James Andrews and the Dolphins team doctors who actually examined and treated Tannehill how he should have been treated.
but the people questioning your commentary here are arrogant? I don't think arrogant means what you think it means.
I'm sure you mean well, but when someone questions you about something you go off the rails.
one of the worst posters on here, I don't want to debate you on this or anything, I'm just going to avoid you from now on.
you win.
I have already said on this thread I have had two knee surgeries, unfortunately you don't read well, par for the course with some on here. I care that you are going to avoid me. I do not go off the rails, I think when somebody
doesn't have first hand knowledge of a situation, they are the ones talking out of their ass, like you.
What they're trying to tell you is that you don't have 'first hand knowledge' either and yet you're questioning an expert in the field who did/does.
what I am doing is the opposite of arrogant. I am saying the qualified medical professionals are the ones who I trust in making the determination about the course of medical treatment. Not someone on their couch who isn't even in a medical field.
You are saying, and this is f-ing awesome, you never even hurt your knee, but you hurt other body parts, and played semi-pro ball in a different sport, but...
you know better than James Andrews and the Dolphins team doctors who actually examined and treated Tannehill how he should have been treated.
but the people questioning your commentary here are arrogant? I don't think arrogant means what you think it means.
I'm sure you mean well, but when someone questions you about something you go off the rails.
one of the worst posters on here, I don't want to debate you on this or anything, I'm just going to avoid you from now on.
you win.
I have already said on this thread I have had two knee surgeries, unfortunately you don't read well, par for the course with some on here. I care that you are going to avoid me. I do not go off the rails, I think when somebody
doesn't have first hand knowledge of a situation, they are the ones talking out of their ass, like you.
What they're trying to tell you is that you don't have 'first hand knowledge' either and yet you're questioning an expert in the field who did/does.
I am well aware of that, just know about they are not foolproof in certain cases.
You are also talking about the No. 1 QB, get the procedure done, it's not a backup LB for example...
I also said The Great Dr. James Andrews, is not foolproof,
because there are no guarantees with knee situations.
He turned out to be wrong in this case, and both him and
Shanny should frankly be ashamed how they both handled or
bungled the RGIII situation years ago, I felt bad for RGIII
back then! I knew it was just a matter of time from EXPERIENCE.
what I am doing is the opposite of arrogant. I am saying the qualified medical professionals are the ones who I trust in making the determination about the course of medical treatment. Not someone on their couch who isn't even in a medical field.
You are saying, and this is f-ing awesome, you never even hurt your knee, but you hurt other body parts, and played semi-pro ball in a different sport, but...
you know better than James Andrews and the Dolphins team doctors who actually examined and treated Tannehill how he should have been treated.
but the people questioning your commentary here are arrogant? I don't think arrogant means what you think it means.
I'm sure you mean well, but when someone questions you about something you go off the rails.
one of the worst posters on here, I don't want to debate you on this or anything, I'm just going to avoid you from now on.
you win.
I have already said on this thread I have had two knee surgeries, unfortunately you don't read well, par for the course with some on here. I care that you are going to avoid me. I do not go off the rails, I think when somebody
doesn't have first hand knowledge of a situation, they are the ones talking out of their ass, like you.
What they're trying to tell you is that you don't have 'first hand knowledge' either and yet you're questioning an expert in the field who did/does.
I am well aware of that, just know about they are not foolproof in certain cases.
You are also talking about the No. 1 QB, get the procedure done, it's not a backup LB for example...
I also said The Great Dr. James Andrews, is not foolproof,
because there are no guarantees with knee situations.
He turned out to be wrong in this case, and both him and
Shanny should frankly be ashamed how they both handled or
bungled the RGIII situation years ago, I felt bad for RGIII
back then! I knew it was just a matter of time from EXPERIENCE.
I may be wrong but I thought the majority of the blame should've gone to Shanahan, if I remember correctly, because it was his call to put Griffin in the game DESPITE Andrews telling him not to? Am I remembering that wrong?
Nevertheless, yes... even the best doctors make mistakes. It happens. But considering that this has been one of the few of them... over the hundreds (if not THOUSANDS) of times he's been correct... I think you can give him a break for getting one or two wrong along the way.
When Washington Redskins rookie quarterback Robert Griffin III injured his knee on a gruesome collision in the fourth quarter of a 31-28 victory against the Baltimore Ravens on Dec. 9, he limped off the field for one play, then hobbled back into the huddle as fans and teammates held their breath.
Griffin, clearly injured and in pain, remained in the game for four plays before removing himself.
The following day, when the team revealed Griffin had suffered a sprained lateral collateral ligament, coach Mike Shanahan was asked why he had risked the health of his franchise quarterback by putting him back into the game.
Shanahan said he let Griffin return with the blessing of James Andrews, the renowned orthopedic surgeon, who was on the sideline.
Andrews, however, told USA TODAY Sports on Saturday that he never cleared Griffin to go back into the game, because he never even examined him.
"(Griffin) didn't even let us look at him," Andrews said. "He came off the field, walked through the sidelines, circled back through the players and took off back to the field. It wasn't our opinion.
"We didn't even get to touch him or talk to him. Scared the hell out of me."
Yet when asked by news reporters, Shanahan described a conversation with Andrews this way:
"He's on the sidelines with Dr. Andrews. He had a chance to look at him and he said he could go back in," Shanahan said Dec. 10. "(I said) 'Hey, Dr. Andrews, can Robert go back in?'
'Yeah, he can go back in.'
'Robert, go back in.'
"That was it," Shanahan said.
Only that's not the way it happened, Andrews said. What's more, Andrews remains worried about Griffin's health as the Redskins play the Seattle Seahawks in an NFC wild-card game at FedEx Field today.
your misuse/lack of grasp of the word arrogance, I don't believe you know the definition of "first-hand" either.
Good luck with your learning
.
Okay buddy, you have a great grasp of the language,
hasn't helped with reading comprehension I see, LOL.
I don't misuse words, I know what I see on here.
Don't bother me, don't really care.
When Washington Redskins rookie quarterback Robert Griffin III injured his knee on a gruesome collision in the fourth quarter of a 31-28 victory against the Baltimore Ravens on Dec. 9, he limped off the field for one play, then hobbled back into the huddle as fans and teammates held their breath.
Griffin, clearly injured and in pain, remained in the game for four plays before removing himself.
The following day, when the team revealed Griffin had suffered a sprained lateral collateral ligament, coach Mike Shanahan was asked why he had risked the health of his franchise quarterback by putting him back into the game.
Shanahan said he let Griffin return with the blessing of James Andrews, the renowned orthopedic surgeon, who was on the sideline.
Andrews, however, told USA TODAY Sports on Saturday that he never cleared Griffin to go back into the game, because he never even examined him.
"(Griffin) didn't even let us look at him," Andrews said. "He came off the field, walked through the sidelines, circled back through the players and took off back to the field. It wasn't our opinion.
"We didn't even get to touch him or talk to him. Scared the hell out of me."
Yet when asked by news reporters, Shanahan described a conversation with Andrews this way:
"He's on the sidelines with Dr. Andrews. He had a chance to look at him and he said he could go back in," Shanahan said Dec. 10. "(I said) 'Hey, Dr. Andrews, can Robert go back in?'
'Yeah, he can go back in.'
'Robert, go back in.'
"That was it," Shanahan said.
Only that's not the way it happened, Andrews said. What's more, Andrews remains worried about Griffin's health as the Redskins play the Seattle Seahawks in an NFC wild-card game at FedEx Field today.
Very familiar with Adam Gase. Probably the best fit for both parties under all the circumstances. This move essentially give some the Phins the same chance of success as if Tannehill didn't get hurt in the first place. Good move by MIA.
I don't see why. Miami is not going to advance far into the playoffs simply by having Cutler on its roster this year. If his cap number makes it more difficult to sign any other players for multi-year contracts, I'd say it's pretty short-sighted.
When Washington Redskins rookie quarterback Robert Griffin III injured his knee on a gruesome collision in the fourth quarter of a 31-28 victory against the Baltimore Ravens on Dec. 9, he limped off the field for one play, then hobbled back into the huddle as fans and teammates held their breath.
Griffin, clearly injured and in pain, remained in the game for four plays before removing himself.
The following day, when the team revealed Griffin had suffered a sprained lateral collateral ligament, coach Mike Shanahan was asked why he had risked the health of his franchise quarterback by putting him back into the game.
Shanahan said he let Griffin return with the blessing of James Andrews, the renowned orthopedic surgeon, who was on the sideline.
Andrews, however, told USA TODAY Sports on Saturday that he never cleared Griffin to go back into the game, because he never even examined him.
"(Griffin) didn't even let us look at him," Andrews said. "He came off the field, walked through the sidelines, circled back through the players and took off back to the field. It wasn't our opinion.
"We didn't even get to touch him or talk to him. Scared the hell out of me."
Yet when asked by news reporters, Shanahan described a conversation with Andrews this way:
"He's on the sidelines with Dr. Andrews. He had a chance to look at him and he said he could go back in," Shanahan said Dec. 10. "(I said) 'Hey, Dr. Andrews, can Robert go back in?'
'Yeah, he can go back in.'
'Robert, go back in.'
"That was it," Shanahan said.
Only that's not the way it happened, Andrews said. What's more, Andrews remains worried about Griffin's health as the Redskins play the Seattle Seahawks in an NFC wild-card game at FedEx Field today.
Hey you moron, I was talking about the playoff game when his knee blew up, you need to take Reading Comp. 101. As I have stated on here before, there is a course near you!
Millenials like to go yap yap with their gums or in this case fingers. Reading comp. tends to not be a strong point
on a sports blog, have you noticed that, LOL!
blew up,
What's more, Andrews remains worried about Griffin's health as the Redskins play the Seattle Seahawks in an NFC wild-card game at FedEx Field today.
Quote:
I'm the one that shut him down that day, finally," Andrews said. "I've been a nervous wreck letting him come back as quick as he has. He's doing a lot better this week, but he's still recovering and I'm holding my breath because of it.
Quote:
He passed all the tests and all the functional things we do, but it's been a trying moment for me, to be honest with you."
Quote:
The risky behavior and apparent cover-up regarding Griffin's knee injury is even more curious when Andrews described the team's responsibility toward the rookie quarterback — "to make sure he's OK for the next 15 years," Andrews said. "That's what you have to watch out for for players, because they don't know."
Sounds to me like Andrews wasn't 100% on board with Griffin playing and was overruled by Shanny.
When Washington Redskins rookie quarterback Robert Griffin III injured his knee on a gruesome collision in the fourth quarter of a 31-28 victory against the Baltimore Ravens on Dec. 9, he limped off the field for one play, then hobbled back into the huddle as fans and teammates held their breath.
Griffin, clearly injured and in pain, remained in the game for four plays before removing himself.
The following day, when the team revealed Griffin had suffered a sprained lateral collateral ligament, coach Mike Shanahan was asked why he had risked the health of his franchise quarterback by putting him back into the game.
Shanahan said he let Griffin return with the blessing of James Andrews, the renowned orthopedic surgeon, who was on the sideline.
Andrews, however, told USA TODAY Sports on Saturday that he never cleared Griffin to go back into the game, because he never even examined him.
"(Griffin) didn't even let us look at him," Andrews said. "He came off the field, walked through the sidelines, circled back through the players and took off back to the field. It wasn't our opinion.
"We didn't even get to touch him or talk to him. Scared the hell out of me."
Yet when asked by news reporters, Shanahan described a conversation with Andrews this way:
"He's on the sidelines with Dr. Andrews. He had a chance to look at him and he said he could go back in," Shanahan said Dec. 10. "(I said) 'Hey, Dr. Andrews, can Robert go back in?'
'Yeah, he can go back in.'
'Robert, go back in.'
"That was it," Shanahan said.
Only that's not the way it happened, Andrews said. What's more, Andrews remains worried about Griffin's health as the Redskins play the Seattle Seahawks in an NFC wild-card game at FedEx Field today.
Hey you moron, I was talking about the playoff game when his knee blew up, you need to take Reading Comp. 101. As I have stated on here before, there is a course near you!
Millenials like to go yap yap with their gums or in this case fingers. Reading comp. tends to not be a strong point
on a sports blog, have you noticed that, LOL!
blew up,
In case you haven't uncracked the code, you're on a message board, not a blog. And you probably shouldn't be throwing around reading comprehension digs when you can't figure out how word wrap works. You can try to take the superior position if you want, but you should probably make sure you're completely buttoned up yourself. Otherwise, you might prove yourself to be a buffoon.
Did it become common place to accuse business owners of "blackballing" because they dont want to hire a person who they view as a pain in the ass? Newsflash: you can be that, put up excellent numbers and still be expendable. When you arent that good of a performer and you are viewed as a pain in the ass, you have pretty much signed your own death warrant.
This blackballing nonsense needs to cease. Colin Kaepernick has made a piss poor decision and has been an extremelt average to below avg NFL quarterback...thats why he isnt employed currently.
Best thing he can hope for is to get thru the whole season unemployed and sign a book deal (not a write a book) telling people how the NFL is racist and working against him. Fuvk him, he is the worst kind of loser.
What a touch of arrogance that is, Dr. James Andrews may be
a "noted orthopedic surgeon", it doesn't mean he is not wrong on occasion. We all remember as a paid consultant for the
Redskins, who was on the sidelines with his stocking burgundy
and gold cap on how both he and Shanny blundered big time
on the RG III situation during that playoff game years ago.
Anybody who had knee surgery in the past knew he was about to
go down big time with his knee in that game. Yet, they allowed it to happen. He was obviously wrong in this situation, he should have insisted that Shanny remove him from the game, when it was obvious what was about to happen!
So noted orthopedic surgeons do make mistakes, they are not
fool proof, and I never said I know more than him, but I do
know what I see. I like when somebody presents a link
from the end of January, and we are now in August, that is recent, LOL. That's right you stretch or strain ligaments and cartliage, you do not sprain them, they use that expression sprain as typical football lexicon. A sideline reporter or a coach, or a reporter might use it, not an orthopedic specialist. My work is done here!
You're either 75 years old, new to the internet, or both.
The link is from January because you said "the better question is why he didn't have surgery when the injury first happened in 2016"
So you knowing zero about the patient, never met with the patient for a consultation, never looked at MRI's, x-rays, even conducted a physical exam of the patient are equipped to say he should have had surgery in December. When actual medical professionals disagreed.
And Andrews was one of two doctors he met with. So two professional orthopedists said no surgery, but Carson53 from BBI said he should have had surgery.
Well there you go, if only you were Tannehill's doctor instead of actual doctors maybe the Dolphins wouldn't be in this mess.
You should write them a strongly worded letter, isn't that what your generation does?
Carson53 : 10:34 am : link : reply
who absolutely have ZERO first hand knowledge of certain body parts, actually think they KNOW what they are talking about.
So a guy with ZERO first hand knowledge of the injury itself thinks they KNOW what they are talking about because he had knee injuries? Please tell me that this goes against your history of posting ridiculously dumb shit.
I know it isn't, but one could always hold out hope.
Quote:
who absolutely have ZERO first hand knowledge of certain body parts, actually think they KNOW what they are talking about.
What a touch of arrogance that is, Dr. James Andrews may be
a "noted orthopedic surgeon", it doesn't mean he is not wrong on occasion. We all remember as a paid consultant for the
Redskins, who was on the sidelines with his stocking burgundy
and gold cap on how both he and Shanny blundered big time
on the RG III situation during that playoff game years ago.
Anybody who had knee surgery in the past knew he was about to
go down big time with his knee in that game. Yet, they allowed it to happen. He was obviously wrong in this situation, he should have insisted that Shanny remove him from the game, when it was obvious what was about to happen!
So noted orthopedic surgeons do make mistakes, they are not
fool proof, and I never said I know more than him, but I do
know what I see. I like when somebody presents a link
from the end of January, and we are now in August, that is recent, LOL. That's right you stretch or strain ligaments and cartliage, you do not sprain them, they use that expression sprain as typical football lexicon. A sideline reporter or a coach, or a reporter might use it, not an orthopedic specialist. My work is done here!
You're either 75 years old, new to the internet, or both.
The link is from January because you said "the better question is why he didn't have surgery when the injury first happened in 2016"
So you knowing zero about the patient, never met with the patient for a consultation, never looked at MRI's, x-rays, even conducted a physical exam of the patient are equipped to say he should have had surgery in December. When actual medical professionals disagreed.
And Andrews was one of two doctors he met with. So two professional orthopedists said no surgery, but Carson53 from BBI said he should have had surgery.
Well there you go, if only you were Tannehill's doctor instead of actual doctors maybe the Dolphins wouldn't be in this mess.
You should write them a strongly worded letter, isn't that what your generation does?
Your generation is much better, LOL.
And no I am not 75, I am in my early 60's.
BTW, how many knee surgeries have you had sunny boy?
About the same fucking correlation.
I've also slept at Holiday Inn Expresses numerous times. So there's that.
Or even a primary care doctor?
Or a physician's assistant in an orthopedic practice?
Or a nurse?
or an MRI tech
or an x-ray tech
Or a PT
or anything even somewhat related to the medical field
and most importantly when did you look at Tannehill's results to make your diagnosis that he should have surgery back in December?
I'm going to guess the answer is no and never to all these questions and you're showing your ass on this thread.
I've also slept at Holiday Inn Expresses numerous times. So there's that.
I broke a couple fingers, your point, that's right,
you don't have one. I actually played some semi-pro ball,
in another sport, how about you?
Or the other idiots that think they know what they are talking about on this thread, when they don't have
first hand experience. I have never hurt that particular body part, but I know an awful lot about it, it's called
flawed logic. Flawed logic is a very popular theme on BBI.
It comes with the territory. You have a few on here who are
so dense and obtuse, but they think they are authorities
on everything. I find it both arrogant and bemusing.
Or even a primary care doctor?
Or a physician's assistant in an orthopedic practice?
Or a nurse?
or an MRI tech
or an x-ray tech
Or a PT
or anything even somewhat related to the medical field
and most importantly when did you look at Tannehill's results to make your diagnosis that he should have surgery back in December?
I'm going to guess the answer is no and never to all these questions and you're showing your ass on this thread.
Good evasive answer, have worked in a hospital for a couple
years in the past, and you? He had a torn ACL, did I need
to look at his MRI? Since you don't know this obviously,
X-Rays don't show tears, they show breaks or fractures,
that's why they quickly send athletes for a MRI.
Just keep talking, you're good at that.
You are saying, and this is f-ing awesome, you never even hurt your knee, but you hurt other body parts, and played semi-pro ball in a different sport, but...
you know better than James Andrews and the Dolphins team doctors who actually examined and treated Tannehill how he should have been treated.
but the people questioning your commentary here are arrogant? I don't think arrogant means what you think it means.
I'm sure you mean well, but when someone questions you about something you go off the rails.
one of the worst posters on here, I don't want to debate you on this or anything, I'm just going to avoid you from now on.
you win.
You mean like using the fact you've had knee injuries to make you competent enough to diagnose somebody else? That kind of flawed logic?
I'd figure you might bow out, but instead you are doubling and tripling down on the asinine take.
Great work!
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I love when people
Carson53 : 10:34 am : link : reply
who absolutely have ZERO first hand knowledge of certain body parts, actually think they KNOW what they are talking about.
So a guy with ZERO first hand knowledge of the injury itself thinks they KNOW what they are talking about because he had knee injuries? Please tell me that this goes against your history of posting ridiculously dumb shit.
I know it isn't, but one could always hold out hope.
I'd settle for him having some first hand knowledge or word wrap and formatting so that his posts are even readable.
The carriage-return crowd is starting to be as predictable as the rule of Z.
You are saying, and this is f-ing awesome, you never even hurt your knee, but you hurt other body parts, and played semi-pro ball in a different sport, but...
you know better than James Andrews and the Dolphins team doctors who actually examined and treated Tannehill how he should have been treated.
but the people questioning your commentary here are arrogant? I don't think arrogant means what you think it means.
I'm sure you mean well, but when someone questions you about something you go off the rails.
one of the worst posters on here, I don't want to debate you on this or anything, I'm just going to avoid you from now on.
you win.
I have already said on this thread I have had two knee surgeries, unfortunately you don't read well, par for the course with some on here. I care that you are going to avoid me. I do not go off the rails, I think when somebody
doesn't have first hand knowledge of a situation, they are the ones talking out of their ass, like you.
Good luck with your learning
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what I am doing is the opposite of arrogant. I am saying the qualified medical professionals are the ones who I trust in making the determination about the course of medical treatment. Not someone on their couch who isn't even in a medical field.
You are saying, and this is f-ing awesome, you never even hurt your knee, but you hurt other body parts, and played semi-pro ball in a different sport, but...
you know better than James Andrews and the Dolphins team doctors who actually examined and treated Tannehill how he should have been treated.
but the people questioning your commentary here are arrogant? I don't think arrogant means what you think it means.
I'm sure you mean well, but when someone questions you about something you go off the rails.
one of the worst posters on here, I don't want to debate you on this or anything, I'm just going to avoid you from now on.
you win.
I have already said on this thread I have had two knee surgeries, unfortunately you don't read well, par for the course with some on here. I care that you are going to avoid me. I do not go off the rails, I think when somebody
doesn't have first hand knowledge of a situation, they are the ones talking out of their ass, like you.
What they're trying to tell you is that you don't have 'first hand knowledge' either and yet you're questioning an expert in the field who did/does.
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what I am doing is the opposite of arrogant. I am saying the qualified medical professionals are the ones who I trust in making the determination about the course of medical treatment. Not someone on their couch who isn't even in a medical field.
You are saying, and this is f-ing awesome, you never even hurt your knee, but you hurt other body parts, and played semi-pro ball in a different sport, but...
you know better than James Andrews and the Dolphins team doctors who actually examined and treated Tannehill how he should have been treated.
but the people questioning your commentary here are arrogant? I don't think arrogant means what you think it means.
I'm sure you mean well, but when someone questions you about something you go off the rails.
one of the worst posters on here, I don't want to debate you on this or anything, I'm just going to avoid you from now on.
you win.
I have already said on this thread I have had two knee surgeries, unfortunately you don't read well, par for the course with some on here. I care that you are going to avoid me. I do not go off the rails, I think when somebody
doesn't have first hand knowledge of a situation, they are the ones talking out of their ass, like you.
What they're trying to tell you is that you don't have 'first hand knowledge' either and yet you're questioning an expert in the field who did/does.
I am well aware of that, just know about they are not foolproof in certain cases.
You are also talking about the No. 1 QB, get the procedure done, it's not a backup LB for example...
I also said The Great Dr. James Andrews, is not foolproof,
because there are no guarantees with knee situations.
He turned out to be wrong in this case, and both him and
Shanny should frankly be ashamed how they both handled or
bungled the RGIII situation years ago, I felt bad for RGIII
back then! I knew it was just a matter of time from EXPERIENCE.
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In comment 13552719 Carson53 said:
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In comment 13552663 pjcas18 said:
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what I am doing is the opposite of arrogant. I am saying the qualified medical professionals are the ones who I trust in making the determination about the course of medical treatment. Not someone on their couch who isn't even in a medical field.
You are saying, and this is f-ing awesome, you never even hurt your knee, but you hurt other body parts, and played semi-pro ball in a different sport, but...
you know better than James Andrews and the Dolphins team doctors who actually examined and treated Tannehill how he should have been treated.
but the people questioning your commentary here are arrogant? I don't think arrogant means what you think it means.
I'm sure you mean well, but when someone questions you about something you go off the rails.
one of the worst posters on here, I don't want to debate you on this or anything, I'm just going to avoid you from now on.
you win.
I have already said on this thread I have had two knee surgeries, unfortunately you don't read well, par for the course with some on here. I care that you are going to avoid me. I do not go off the rails, I think when somebody
doesn't have first hand knowledge of a situation, they are the ones talking out of their ass, like you.
What they're trying to tell you is that you don't have 'first hand knowledge' either and yet you're questioning an expert in the field who did/does.
I am well aware of that, just know about they are not foolproof in certain cases.
You are also talking about the No. 1 QB, get the procedure done, it's not a backup LB for example...
I also said The Great Dr. James Andrews, is not foolproof,
because there are no guarantees with knee situations.
He turned out to be wrong in this case, and both him and
Shanny should frankly be ashamed how they both handled or
bungled the RGIII situation years ago, I felt bad for RGIII
back then! I knew it was just a matter of time from EXPERIENCE.
I may be wrong but I thought the majority of the blame should've gone to Shanahan, if I remember correctly, because it was his call to put Griffin in the game DESPITE Andrews telling him not to? Am I remembering that wrong?
Nevertheless, yes... even the best doctors make mistakes. It happens. But considering that this has been one of the few of them... over the hundreds (if not THOUSANDS) of times he's been correct... I think you can give him a break for getting one or two wrong along the way.
Griffin, clearly injured and in pain, remained in the game for four plays before removing himself.
The following day, when the team revealed Griffin had suffered a sprained lateral collateral ligament, coach Mike Shanahan was asked why he had risked the health of his franchise quarterback by putting him back into the game.
Shanahan said he let Griffin return with the blessing of James Andrews, the renowned orthopedic surgeon, who was on the sideline.
Andrews, however, told USA TODAY Sports on Saturday that he never cleared Griffin to go back into the game, because he never even examined him.
"(Griffin) didn't even let us look at him," Andrews said. "He came off the field, walked through the sidelines, circled back through the players and took off back to the field. It wasn't our opinion.
"We didn't even get to touch him or talk to him. Scared the hell out of me."
Yet when asked by news reporters, Shanahan described a conversation with Andrews this way:
"He's on the sidelines with Dr. Andrews. He had a chance to look at him and he said he could go back in," Shanahan said Dec. 10. "(I said) 'Hey, Dr. Andrews, can Robert go back in?'
'Yeah, he can go back in.'
'Robert, go back in.'
"That was it," Shanahan said.
Only that's not the way it happened, Andrews said. What's more, Andrews remains worried about Griffin's health as the Redskins play the Seattle Seahawks in an NFC wild-card game at FedEx Field today.
Good luck with your learning
Okay buddy, you have a great grasp of the language,
hasn't helped with reading comprehension I see, LOL.
I don't misuse words, I know what I see on here.
Don't bother me, don't really care.
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When Washington Redskins rookie quarterback Robert Griffin III injured his knee on a gruesome collision in the fourth quarter of a 31-28 victory against the Baltimore Ravens on Dec. 9, he limped off the field for one play, then hobbled back into the huddle as fans and teammates held their breath.
Griffin, clearly injured and in pain, remained in the game for four plays before removing himself.
The following day, when the team revealed Griffin had suffered a sprained lateral collateral ligament, coach Mike Shanahan was asked why he had risked the health of his franchise quarterback by putting him back into the game.
Shanahan said he let Griffin return with the blessing of James Andrews, the renowned orthopedic surgeon, who was on the sideline.
Andrews, however, told USA TODAY Sports on Saturday that he never cleared Griffin to go back into the game, because he never even examined him.
"(Griffin) didn't even let us look at him," Andrews said. "He came off the field, walked through the sidelines, circled back through the players and took off back to the field. It wasn't our opinion.
"We didn't even get to touch him or talk to him. Scared the hell out of me."
Yet when asked by news reporters, Shanahan described a conversation with Andrews this way:
"He's on the sidelines with Dr. Andrews. He had a chance to look at him and he said he could go back in," Shanahan said Dec. 10. "(I said) 'Hey, Dr. Andrews, can Robert go back in?'
'Yeah, he can go back in.'
'Robert, go back in.'
"That was it," Shanahan said.
Only that's not the way it happened, Andrews said. What's more, Andrews remains worried about Griffin's health as the Redskins play the Seattle Seahawks in an NFC wild-card game at FedEx Field today.
Ha! I remembered correctly!
I don't see why. Miami is not going to advance far into the playoffs simply by having Cutler on its roster this year. If his cap number makes it more difficult to sign any other players for multi-year contracts, I'd say it's pretty short-sighted.
and most importantly when did you look at Tannehill's results to make your diagnosis that he should have surgery back in December?
Well that's easy. He looked at the results of the decision 8 months after it happened and declared, "Wrong decision!"
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When Washington Redskins rookie quarterback Robert Griffin III injured his knee on a gruesome collision in the fourth quarter of a 31-28 victory against the Baltimore Ravens on Dec. 9, he limped off the field for one play, then hobbled back into the huddle as fans and teammates held their breath.
Griffin, clearly injured and in pain, remained in the game for four plays before removing himself.
The following day, when the team revealed Griffin had suffered a sprained lateral collateral ligament, coach Mike Shanahan was asked why he had risked the health of his franchise quarterback by putting him back into the game.
Shanahan said he let Griffin return with the blessing of James Andrews, the renowned orthopedic surgeon, who was on the sideline.
Andrews, however, told USA TODAY Sports on Saturday that he never cleared Griffin to go back into the game, because he never even examined him.
"(Griffin) didn't even let us look at him," Andrews said. "He came off the field, walked through the sidelines, circled back through the players and took off back to the field. It wasn't our opinion.
"We didn't even get to touch him or talk to him. Scared the hell out of me."
Yet when asked by news reporters, Shanahan described a conversation with Andrews this way:
"He's on the sidelines with Dr. Andrews. He had a chance to look at him and he said he could go back in," Shanahan said Dec. 10. "(I said) 'Hey, Dr. Andrews, can Robert go back in?'
'Yeah, he can go back in.'
'Robert, go back in.'
"That was it," Shanahan said.
Only that's not the way it happened, Andrews said. What's more, Andrews remains worried about Griffin's health as the Redskins play the Seattle Seahawks in an NFC wild-card game at FedEx Field today.
Hey you moron, I was talking about the playoff game when his knee blew up, you need to take Reading Comp. 101. As I have stated on here before, there is a course near you!
Millenials like to go yap yap with their gums or in this case fingers. Reading comp. tends to not be a strong point
on a sports blog, have you noticed that, LOL!
blew up,
Sounds to me like Andrews wasn't 100% on board with Griffin playing and was overruled by Shanny.
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Andrews denies ever clearing him to return.
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When Washington Redskins rookie quarterback Robert Griffin III injured his knee on a gruesome collision in the fourth quarter of a 31-28 victory against the Baltimore Ravens on Dec. 9, he limped off the field for one play, then hobbled back into the huddle as fans and teammates held their breath.
Griffin, clearly injured and in pain, remained in the game for four plays before removing himself.
The following day, when the team revealed Griffin had suffered a sprained lateral collateral ligament, coach Mike Shanahan was asked why he had risked the health of his franchise quarterback by putting him back into the game.
Shanahan said he let Griffin return with the blessing of James Andrews, the renowned orthopedic surgeon, who was on the sideline.
Andrews, however, told USA TODAY Sports on Saturday that he never cleared Griffin to go back into the game, because he never even examined him.
"(Griffin) didn't even let us look at him," Andrews said. "He came off the field, walked through the sidelines, circled back through the players and took off back to the field. It wasn't our opinion.
"We didn't even get to touch him or talk to him. Scared the hell out of me."
Yet when asked by news reporters, Shanahan described a conversation with Andrews this way:
"He's on the sidelines with Dr. Andrews. He had a chance to look at him and he said he could go back in," Shanahan said Dec. 10. "(I said) 'Hey, Dr. Andrews, can Robert go back in?'
'Yeah, he can go back in.'
'Robert, go back in.'
"That was it," Shanahan said.
Only that's not the way it happened, Andrews said. What's more, Andrews remains worried about Griffin's health as the Redskins play the Seattle Seahawks in an NFC wild-card game at FedEx Field today.
Hey you moron, I was talking about the playoff game when his knee blew up, you need to take Reading Comp. 101. As I have stated on here before, there is a course near you!
Millenials like to go yap yap with their gums or in this case fingers. Reading comp. tends to not be a strong point
on a sports blog, have you noticed that, LOL!
blew up,
In case you haven't uncracked the code, you're on a message board, not a blog. And you probably shouldn't be throwing around reading comprehension digs when you can't figure out how word wrap works. You can try to take the superior position if you want, but you should probably make sure you're completely buttoned up yourself. Otherwise, you might prove yourself to be a buffoon.
This blackballing nonsense needs to cease. Colin Kaepernick has made a piss poor decision and has been an extremelt average to below avg NFL quarterback...thats why he isnt employed currently.
Best thing he can hope for is to get thru the whole season unemployed and sign a book deal (not a write a book) telling people how the NFL is racist and working against him. Fuvk him, he is the worst kind of loser.