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NFT: Yankees Rule 5 eligible players

mavric : 8/10/2017 9:59 am
We will lose some of these guys. With luck, they will come back. There will some horse trading after the season and before the draft. I suspect they'll find a way to protect Acevedo, Feyereisen, and especially Abreu. Still, some top names could be snatched. I like Cave and McKinney and they've both been hot with the bat.

Here's list of the best who will most likely be unprotected (according to some "experts")

1. OF Jake Cave
2. OF Billy McKinney
3. SP Daniel Camarena
4. SP/RP Stephen Tarpley
5. SP Brady Lail
6. 1B Mike Ford
7. OF Rashad Crawford
8. SP Austin DeCarr
9. [b]SP Domingo Acevedo

10. OF Mark Payton
11. SS Abiatal Avelino
12. OF Devyn Bolasky
13. INF Thairo Estrada
14. RP J.P. Feyereisen
15. SP/RP Nestor Cortes
16. SP Albert Abreu
17. RP Cale Coshow
18. 2B Gosuke Katoh
No way Abreu goes  
superspynyg : 8/10/2017 10:00 am : link
anywhere.
RE: No way Abreu goes  
BigBlueShock : 8/10/2017 10:04 am : link
In comment 13554763 superspynyg said:
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anywhere.

Neither is Acevedo
Cash will make a couple moves...  
Dunedin81 : 8/10/2017 10:10 am : link
I'd wager a guess we protect one of Cave or McKinney and trade the other, Abreu, Acevedo and maybe Thairo. Tarpley is a sleeper, he has been dominant since switching to the pen. 13 games, 28.2 IP, no runs. 8 hits and 15 BBs in that span, with 34 Ks.
I see 7  
Phil in LA : 8/10/2017 10:24 am : link
We have to keep or trade.
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Named Later : 8/10/2017 10:28 am : link
The buzz on the Mets thread is that the Yankees offered 2 prospects for Bruce, but would take on minimal salary. The Mets decided to let Bruce go in a salary purge for a high-A relief pitcher instead.

Any insider info on who the Yankees offered ??
Is it a name from the Rule 5 list ??

Incarcerated Bob  
Dunedin81 : 8/10/2017 10:31 am : link
says Luis Medina and Domingo German, other folks are saying Luis Cessa was a name. Who knows?
Rich in DC had a good post on this a week or so ago ..  
Beer Man : 8/10/2017 10:43 am : link
With the exception of Cave, the team should be able to retain everyone they want to. Cave is an exception because he is a Minor League FA at the end of the year and will most likely sign where he has a better chance of playing in the bigs. As for the others, due to recent trades and pending FAs that won't be resigned, there will be enough spaces on the 40-man to keep everyone they want to keep. Plus you have to consider others won't be taken because they must be added to the 40-man roster of the team that drafts them, and remain on it the entire season; otherwise they must be returned to the Yanks.
Don't be shocked if they add Cave after 9/1...  
Dunedin81 : 8/10/2017 10:50 am : link
it'd be an easy way to prevent that minor league FA and let them make a decision later.
RE: Incarcerated Bob  
BigBlueShock : 8/10/2017 10:53 am : link
In comment 13554807 Dunedin81 said:
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says Luis Medina and Domingo German, other folks are saying Luis Cessa was a name. Who knows?

Any combination of those guys destroys the return that they got from Cleveland, if it's accurate. And Mets fans are calling the Yankees cheap on the Bruce thread for not also picking up his entire salary
Several things to remember  
rich in DC : 8/10/2017 11:07 am : link
One- the Yankees will have rosters spots open at the end of the season because of FA. At a minimum, CC, Holliday, Garcia, Todd Frazier will be FA and open 4 roster spots.

Pineda will also be a FA, but because he is on the 60 day DL, he is not counted against the 40 man roster, so he will not open a roster spot when he declares FA.

Tanaka has a player option- meaning that he can elect to opt out and become a FA. However, that also means that he must give up the 3 years and $63M+ remaining on his deal. He might not elect to do so- even though he would likely be the best SP in the FA market this winter.

It should also be noted that the Yanks currently only have 39 players on the 40 man roster- but when Bird gets activated from the 60 day Dl, he will almost certainly be added to the 40th spot.

When the season is over the Yanks will likely release/DFA several players to create roster spots. Cooper is a very likely candidate, as he simply duplicates Austin and Bird too much. Shreve is another.

For the sake of discussion, let's assume the 4 spots for FA and Cooper's roster spots open- that's 5 roster spots you can use to protect Rule 5 eligible players. Looking at the list posted above, I think the likeliest bets for those 5 spots are: Abreu, Acevedo, Torres (he's NOT on the list, but he must be protected this winter), Estrada and Tarpley.

Those are the "easy" protects. But, the Yanks likely do not want to lose Cave, McKinney, or Feyereisen for nothing. I think the Yanks probably trade Feyereisen for a prospect who does not need Rule 5 protection this winter.

If push comes to shove, I think the Yanks would either elect to trade 2 or more players or simply DFA them to protect Cave and McKinney. I think that Shreve, Heller, Austin, and maybe Romine fit into that pot.

The big trick however is getting Cave onto the roster BEFORE the end of the season. That is because Cave will technically be a minor league FA at the end of the season. If he reaches FA, he can sign with anyone.

Remember a number of years ago, the Yanks had a full 40 man roster. Jose Quintana was a minor league FA in their system- and the White Sox offered him a major league contract, meaning that they were giving him a 40 man roster spot. The Yanks did not have a 40 man roster spot free, so they could not match the White Sox offer, and Quintana left. The same could happen with Cave if the Yanks don't add him to the roster.

Keep in mind that a second "trade deadline" will take place at the end of August. I think that there is a good possibility that the Yanks may use some of their bullpen depth as trade bait to try and free up the 2 spots they will need to add McKinney and Cave.

Assuming they find the two spots needed for Cave and McKinney, I don't think the Yanks will lose much sleep over anyone else on that list being taken in Rule 5.
Rich, regarding Garrett Cooper....  
Greg from LI : 8/10/2017 11:15 am : link
I wonder if they'll prefer to keep Cooper over Austin given the frequency of Austin's injuries.
I'll even go a step further  
rich in DC : 8/10/2017 11:19 am : link
What if the Yanks remove BOTH Austin and Cooper from the roster. Cooper probably clears waivers and gets sent to AAA. Austin might get claimed- but he simply can't stay healthy enough to be counted on at this point.

Assuming that the Yanks go on to move at least one OF this winter, they can spend the rest of the winter finding a guy to be the backup 1B and who is willing to DH.
RE: I'll even go a step further  
Beer Man : 8/10/2017 11:33 am : link
In comment 13554877 rich in DC said:
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What if the Yanks remove BOTH Austin and Cooper from the roster. Cooper probably clears waivers and gets sent to AAA. Austin might get claimed- but he simply can't stay healthy enough to be counted on at this point.

Assuming that the Yanks go on to move at least one OF this winter, they can spend the rest of the winter finding a guy to be the backup 1B and who is willing to DH.
I thought the Yanks might try to trade Austin.
The Yanks have so much money falling off the books  
mavric : 8/10/2017 12:26 pm : link
I wonder who they will target in free agency. I have to believe they are thinking of a couple of big names. Probably Machado, maybe Otani or Harper or a solid starter that hasn't been talked about.

That can have a lot of effect on how they decide who to protect and who they expose to rule 5.

I hope they go all the way this year, but next year is really our sweet spot to take it all...that is, depending on who we sign. We can do it this year as long as we make the playoffs and get on a hot streak at the right time. That is always the big factor at the end of the season. Hence, I'd rather the team struggle now and get on a roll later than the other way around and go cold at the end of the season and backing into the playoffs.
RE: The Yanks have so much money falling off the books  
Mad Mike : 8/10/2017 12:40 pm : link
In comment 13555008 mavric said:
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I wonder who they will target in free agency. I have to believe they are thinking of a couple of big names. Probably Machado, maybe Otani or Harper or a solid starter that hasn't been talked about.

What off-season are you referring to? Those guys (well, Otani's status isn't really known) are a year+ away.
RE: Incarcerated Bob  
Jay on the Island : 8/10/2017 7:41 pm : link
In comment 13554807 Dunedin81 said:
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says Luis Medina and Domingo German, other folks are saying Luis Cessa was a name. Who knows?

Do you honestly believe a word that this fake insider says?
RE: The Yanks have so much money falling off the books  
Jay on the Island : 8/10/2017 7:42 pm : link
In comment 13555008 mavric said:
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I wonder who they will target in free agency. I have to believe they are thinking of a couple of big names. Probably Machado, maybe Otani or Harper or a solid starter that hasn't been talked about.

That can have a lot of effect on how they decide who to protect and who they expose to rule 5.

I hope they go all the way this year, but next year is really our sweet spot to take it all...that is, depending on who we sign. We can do it this year as long as we make the playoffs and get on a hot streak at the right time. That is always the big factor at the end of the season. Hence, I'd rather the team struggle now and get on a roll later than the other way around and go cold at the end of the season and backing into the playoffs.

Harper and Machado are not free agents this off season.
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