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Mike in Long Beach : 8/10/2017 11:39 am
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Why was it a bad pick, Jeff?  
Klaatu : 8/10/2017 1:28 pm : link
Because you never heard of the guy? Because Joe Schmo at DraftBooger.com said he was a UDFA? How much scouting did you do prior to the 2015 draft?

I have my own issues with Reese, but taking a flyer on Mykkele Thompson in the 5th round when the Giants were desperately seeking Safeties isn't one of them.

If you're always looking for trouble, you're bound to find it, as you so obviously are...and do.
RE: Why was it a bad pick, Jeff?  
jeff57 : 8/10/2017 1:34 pm : link
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Because you never heard of the guy? Because Joe Schmo at DraftBooger.com said he was a UDFA? How much scouting did you do prior to the 2015 draft?

I have my own issues with Reese, but taking a flyer on Mykkele Thompson in the 5th round when the Giants were desperately seeking Safeties isn't one of them.

If you're always looking for trouble, you're bound to find it, as you so obviously are...and do.


Interesting journey you took in that post.

You can keep trying to convince yourself that it wasn't a bad pick. I'm ready to move on.
RE: Probably an element of roster balancing with Jimmy Herman.  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/10/2017 1:34 pm : link
In comment 13554998 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Pinkins appears to be a full-time safety for now. J.T. Thomas is on PUP. Keenan Robinson has been sidelined. Going into pre-season, the team needs depth at OLB - especially because Casillas is older and appeared to wear down a bit in 2016. Apparently, Herman made enough of an impression in spring tryouts to stay on the "first call" list. He has no realistic chance of sticking, since he's competing not only with the other LBs on the roster but also with every OLB that gets cut in September.

I hesitate to criticize the Thompson pick too severely. The Giants may have seen signs of interest from other teams, and there's also no way to know how he might have fared without the injuries.


Blogger always has a good feel for roster issues. This move was just as much about getting another body at LB for practice. They are really thin there right now.
RE: RE: Why was it a bad pick, Jeff?  
Klaatu : 8/10/2017 1:37 pm : link
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Because you never heard of the guy? Because Joe Schmo at DraftBooger.com said he was a UDFA? How much scouting did you do prior to the 2015 draft?

I have my own issues with Reese, but taking a flyer on Mykkele Thompson in the 5th round when the Giants were desperately seeking Safeties isn't one of them.

If you're always looking for trouble, you're bound to find it, as you so obviously are...and do.



Interesting journey you took in that post.

You can keep trying to convince yourself that it wasn't a bad pick. I'm ready to move on.


Of course you are. Don't acknowledge anything that might upset your narrative. Just move on.
RE: RE: RE: No surprise there ....  
santacruzom : 8/10/2017 1:42 pm : link
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Another Jerry R. draft pick head-scratcher.



There's not really such a thing as a 5th round pick head scratcher.



I think Arc was being sarcastic sally, at least I hope he was


But was Beer Man, the person I replied to, being sarcastic?
RE: He was just a surprise Reese pick......  
LauderdaleMatty : 8/10/2017 1:44 pm : link
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He did not distinguish himself in college, he wasn't even the best DB on his team.....

A fifth round pick? Wasted....Even he thought he wouldn't be drafted....hard to believe there wasn't an OLman there between that pick and Hart....


Going to get the masses pissed. Has nothing to do w his injury history or not working out. Most guys don't. But at some point if your OL for 5 years rubbing looked to be paper thin and unimpressive drafting a guy at DB makes a lot less sense than looking into the OL. Even if it's just good depth.

Pugh Richberg and Fluker are all FA next year. Having a OL who is cheap and ready to step in makes sense. I think the OL is going to be much better this year. But long term there are a lot of gray areas and questions
Jerry Glanville was right about the NFL standing for Not For Long.  
Optimus-NY : 8/10/2017 1:50 pm : link
Weird pick by JR. Glad they got rid of him so they could try and stop the scholarship culture. Thus player literally contributed nothing. Can't have guys like this in your program.
I'm not sure this release had anything to do with his injury  
PatersonPlank : 8/10/2017 1:52 pm : link
IMO they gave him a shot a CB this pre-season because he wasn't going to make it at S. Likely what happened is he was cutting it at CB either. The injury was just a coincidence and certainly didn't help.
RE: RE: RE: He simply couldn't stay healthy.  
est1986 : 8/10/2017 1:58 pm : link
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That's not Jerry Reese's fault.



Its his fault he drafted someone so frail.. Absolutely.. He gets kudos for drafting guys who dont miss games and he gets blame when he drafts guys that are prone to injuries.. That is absolutely part of the equation.



Sorry, but that's ridiculous. Thompson never missed a game in college, playing in 52 straight in four seasons. He was a versatile guy who played both CB and S, and was a "plus athlete" with good size and measurables. It's a shame he couldn't stay healthy, but to blame Jerry Reese for that is, as I said, ridiculous.


I didnt say he should get fired because he cant knock the fifth round out the park consistently, im saying at the end of the day Mykkele was a failed draft pick, to make excuses about him not being a bust because he is always injured is irrelevant. What is relevant is the results and they say there is nothing to show for that pick going forward and frankly from day one, Mykkele did absolutely nothing at all for this team. It counts as a bad pick and justifying it by saying most 5th rounders are busts is a losers mentality, if thats the case why not donate those late round picks why dont you? And lets not kid ourselves Klaatu, it wasnt like he was any good fully healthy and if you think otherwise then that is the only thing truly ridiculous.
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BigBlueShock : 8/10/2017 2:04 pm : link
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A fifth round pick? Wasted....Even he thought he wouldn't be drafted....hard to believe there wasn't an OLman there between that pick and Hart....

Well, here they are:
TACKLE
6 9 185 Tyrus Thompson Vikings Oklahoma
7 1 218 Anthony Morris Raiders Tennessee State
7 8 225 Jake Rodgers Falcons Eastern Washington
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5 16 152 Jarvis Harrison Jets Texas A&M
5 40 176 Robert Myers Ravens Tennessee State
6 7 183 Tayo Fabuluje Bears Texas Christian
6 14 190 Ian Silberman 49ers Boston College
6 39 215 Cody Wichmann Rams Fresno State
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5 30 166 Joe Cardona Patriots Navy
6 32 208 Andy Gallik Titans Boston College
7 5 222 Austin Reiter Redskins South Florida

Of those eleven linemen, only Wichmann and Cardona are still with their original teams. Wichmann is a likely backup. Cardona is purely a long-snapper.

Posting is easy. Drafting is hard.


And you make it even harder when you take someone who never should have been drafted.



Oh, puh-leeze.

Go back and look at the 2015 draft. You can make a case that Jay Ajayi or Stefon Diggs (both drafted shortly after Thompson) would have been better picks, but the rest of that draft is replete with guys "who never should have been drafted" but were, by all 32 teams.



You're wasting your time Klaatu. Jeff57 is one of the worst.



"Worst." Translation: "I can never admit that Reese made a mistake. Ever."



Oh, bullshit - Reese has made his share of mistakes just like every other GM in the history of the NFL

The difference is that you're bellyaching over a 5th round pick as if every other front office hit on their pick that round.

Look at the guys drafted there. How many of those names do you recognize? 2-3? There are 32 teams. Do the math.



Why can't you admit that it was a bad pick, at the time it was made. Not in hindsight. I got a lot of shit from some on here when I said it, at the time it was made. Still getting shit by some of the same folks who can't simply admit that it was a bad pick.

To be fair, you hate almost every pick they make. Haven't heard of a guy? Hate it! Hate enough of them, you're bound to look like a "genius" when a 5th rounder gets cut a few years later, right? Good thinking!
Thompson was an athletic specimen....  
MOOPS : 8/10/2017 2:06 pm : link
who played multiple DB positions at Texas, apparently none good enough to be rated on any draft boards.
No problem calling that a reach. Or a project. Or whatever words JR uses for a NRFPT signee.
On draft day he was a surprise and an unknown. How much of an unknown?
On WIKI-
"Mykkele Thompson (born April 22, 1993) is an Italian American football cornerback..."




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What a joke  
Ron Johnson 30 : 8/10/2017 2:28 pm : link
he was a 5th round pick who tore his Achilles in his 1st camp. That's a hardly an indication the GM screwed up. SMFH
Nobody here knows the difference  
KWALL2 : 8/10/2017 2:33 pm : link
between a 5th rounder and an UFA. If you think you do, you're fooling yourself.

You didn't hear about Thompson in your draft guide? It means nothing. Every year guys considered UFA in these guides get drafted. Why? Because the difference between 5th and not drafted isn't much.

Thompson was drafted in 2015. About 1/3 of the 5th rounders that year have already been cut. All reaches? It's the same every year. 5th rounders get cut in year 1, 2, and 3 at a very high rate.

The Giants drafted a very athletic and versatile kid. They scouted him and did their homework. They said he was worthy of the pick. That isn't enough for you because you didn't hear about him heading into the draft. Thompson getting cut today doesn't mean you're right about the reach BS either.

He tore his achilles in year one. He didn't make it back. You have no fucking idea if the kid could play.
Guy tears achilles in preseason game 1 of rookie year  
KWALL2 : 8/10/2017 2:34 pm : link
That equals bad draft pick?

Umm...wrong.
RE: RE: RE: No surprise there ....  
djm : 8/10/2017 2:41 pm : link
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Another Jerry R. draft pick head-scratcher.



There's not really such a thing as a 5th round pick head scratcher.



I think Arc was being sarcastic sally, at least I hope he was


Arc is never sarcastic.
RE: Okay, CHP.  
ColHowPepper : 8/10/2017 2:51 pm : link
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Let me have it.
Klaatu, I am only going to say that you are of the most informed, up-to-date, smart, and articulate posters on this board, with a really good feel for what the Giants are trying to do on the field. So, you are a ++ guy in my book.

We disagreed on this and maybe one other; 95% of the time I think your positions and observations are spot on.
This guy..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/10/2017 2:57 pm : link
at least has longevity in bashing Reese for years:

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But Reese's flacks won't even admit that a totally ridiculous pick, at the time it was made, was a bad pick.


Do the "flacks" get credit for calling the people who said JPP a reach morons, now?
I really don't  
ryanmkeane : 8/10/2017 3:04 pm : link
understand the fascination with this. He was a 5th round draft pick that didn't pan out. Whether he didn't make it due to injuries or he's just not good enough, what the hell do we expect? Reese has hit on some late round picks and missed on others, it happens to literally every single team! God. Get the fuck over it.

We have one of the best secondaries in the fucking league and some of you are crying over Reese missing on a 5th round pick from 2015? Holy shit.
I don't see what the big deal is.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/10/2017 3:09 pm : link
Was anyone really expecting him to be good? It was a blah pick. No surprise.
Ha...ok  
Route 9 : 8/10/2017 3:14 pm : link
I thought he was cut already or was that Bennett Jackson? I donít know, either way, no loss here. I never learned how to spell his name correctly because well, I knew he wasnít going to stick around. Cant go too crazy over late round safety picks. Big surprise, not all of them are going to pan out.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: He was just a surprise Reese pick......  
santacruzom : 8/10/2017 3:41 pm : link
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Not a matter of going back. I said it at the time. So did a lot of other people. But Reese's flacks won't even admit that a totally ridiculous pick, at the time it was made, was a bad pick.


Unless a well-touted player unexpectedly falls to the 5th, I bet you can say "Bad pick!" after every 5th round choice and wind up feeling good about yourself.
RE: I don't see what the big deal is.  
est1986 : 8/10/2017 3:44 pm : link
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Was anyone really expecting him to be good? It was a blah pick. No surprise.


No, no one expected anything from him AND we got absolutely nothing, not even solid roster competition from this kid BUT you do expect to get a little something from your fifth rounder, last years fifth rounder is this years starting running back.. Its not a devastating knock on JR but at the end of the day it counts as bad pick period.. Im over it now, and its not a big deal at all..
RE: RE: I don't see what the big deal is.  
santacruzom : 8/10/2017 3:52 pm : link
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BUT you do expect to get a little something from your fifth rounder


You shouldn't.
I tend  
old man : 8/10/2017 4:10 pm : link
to be a Reese basher, but I give him a pass on this one.
Lots of 1st rders this year are injured, and may never be what they were thought to be when drafted, from a health perspective.
MT's best athletic skill has been as a bike rider since drafted; he may have been a steal, or a bust.
Who knows what David Wilson might have done in BMacs WCO; and as we've discussed among ourselves the importance of being/staying a healthy team(Nicks, Smith,Phillips, etc).
Things happen.
RE: RE: He was just a surprise Reese pick......  
AcesUp : 8/10/2017 4:20 pm : link
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A fifth round pick? Wasted....Even he thought he wouldn't be drafted....hard to believe there wasn't an OLman there between that pick and Hart....

Well, here they are:
TACKLE
6 9 185 Tyrus Thompson Vikings Oklahoma
7 1 218 Anthony Morris Raiders Tennessee State
7 8 225 Jake Rodgers Falcons Eastern Washington
GUARD
5 16 152 Jarvis Harrison Jets Texas A&M
5 40 176 Robert Myers Ravens Tennessee State
6 7 183 Tayo Fabuluje Bears Texas Christian
6 14 190 Ian Silberman 49ers Boston College
6 39 215 Cody Wichmann Rams Fresno State
CENTER
5 30 166 Joe Cardona Patriots Navy
6 32 208 Andy Gallik Titans Boston College
7 5 222 Austin Reiter Redskins South Florida

Of those eleven linemen, only Wichmann and Cardona are still with their original teams. Wichmann is a likely backup. Cardona is purely a long-snapper.

Posting is easy. Drafting is hard.


One of my favorite posts in a while. Perfectly illustrates the crapshoot at the back end of the draft.
In theory, it should completely shut down any counter argument, but of course there's a chunk of fans that can't be reasoned with.
My  
AcidTest : 8/10/2017 4:34 pm : link
thoughts:

(1) Reese drafted poorly from 2009 - 2012 (except for Nicks and Beatty).
(2) Reese drafted much better starting in 2013.
(3) M. Thompson was not one of his better picks during this latter period of drafting. Thompson himself was surprised to be drafted. BBI pretty much exploded, correctly noting that he most likely would have been available as a UDFA. Thompson looked like another example of Reese deciding he was smarter than every other GM. See also Robinson, Adrian.
(4) Reese is doing much better lately with late round picks and UDFAs. See Hart, Okwara, Adams, Lewis, and perhaps Hunter. His FA spending binge was also a huge success.

Conclusion: M. Thompson was a poor pick, but was made at a time when Reese's drafting was already improving.
funny thing is  
santacruzom : 8/10/2017 4:39 pm : link
Thompson may not even go down as the worst Giants pick of that particular draft year if Flowers has anything to say about it.
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est1986 : 8/10/2017 4:53 pm : link
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Thompson may not even go down as the worst Giants pick of that particular draft year if Flowers has anything to say about it.


Says the guy who is OK with expecting absolutely nothing beyong round 4 in the draft despite our starting RB and RT being 5th and 6th rounds picks not to mention we have an all pro undrafted DT.. But ill bite, Id prefer a reach than an absolute bust anyday.. Tell me who is our LT the past two years if we dont take Flowers? Tell me, did Mykkele even bring any level of competition to this team? Did he help in ANY way at all? If not its going to be hard for Flowers to be a 'worse' pick.
How Does Anybody Know?  
Samiam : 8/10/2017 4:57 pm : link
How are people so sure how he would have done if healthy? He was injured his entire time here. And, the Giants have a very good secondary now so it's no embarrassment to not make this team. There will be some pretty good players, including others in the secondary, who won't make this team. What I'm really curious about though are the number of people who "knew" on draft that this was a bad pick. Did you know because you saw the game film? Or, did watch all or a few of Texas games on television? Or. were you not impressed with his youtube highlights? Was his Wonderlic test not high enough for you? Was his psychological profile questionable? Did you read that he was no good in a magazine or did Mel Kiper or Kiper type say that somewhere? Are you connected to the Texas coaching staff or just some very knowedgeable Texas fans?

If you knew it was a bad pick on draft day, what was the basis for this knowledge? Injuries aside, he semed like an athlete but he may not have been a football player. But, what was the basis for your knowledge other than a gut feeling?
RE: RE: He was just a surprise Reese pick......  
T-Bone : 8/10/2017 5:41 pm : link
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A fifth round pick? Wasted....Even he thought he wouldn't be drafted....hard to believe there wasn't an OLman there between that pick and Hart....

Well, here they are:
TACKLE
6 9 185 Tyrus Thompson Vikings Oklahoma
7 1 218 Anthony Morris Raiders Tennessee State
7 8 225 Jake Rodgers Falcons Eastern Washington
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5 16 152 Jarvis Harrison Jets Texas A&M
5 40 176 Robert Myers Ravens Tennessee State
6 7 183 Tayo Fabuluje Bears Texas Christian
6 14 190 Ian Silberman 49ers Boston College
6 39 215 Cody Wichmann Rams Fresno State
CENTER
5 30 166 Joe Cardona Patriots Navy
6 32 208 Andy Gallik Titans Boston College
7 5 222 Austin Reiter Redskins South Florida

Of those eleven linemen, only Wichmann and Cardona are still with their original teams. Wichmann is a likely backup. Cardona is purely a long-snapper.

Posting is easy. Drafting is hard.


LOL! Love this post and you too BBB!
Glad I never bothered learning  
David B. : 8/10/2017 6:10 pm : link
how to spell that fucked-up first name.
Back at you, T-Bone (and Aces Up)  
Big Blue Blogger : 8/10/2017 6:24 pm : link
Heck, I even love Doomster. In the Hundred Acre Wood, somebody has to be Eeyore.
Oh for Pete's sake  
Dave on the UWS : 8/10/2017 6:31 pm : link
this is not really that complicated. Reese was looking for someone who projected athletically to play next to L Collins so he took a 5th Rd shot with this guy. Because of injury we will never know. Calling him a "reach" because of the stupid draft guides or Mel Kuiper's "genius". What a freakin joke!
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santacruzom : 8/10/2017 6:36 pm : link
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Thompson may not even go down as the worst Giants pick of that particular draft year if Flowers has anything to say about it.



Says the guy who is OK with expecting absolutely nothing beyong round 4 in the draft despite our starting RB and RT being 5th and 6th rounds picks not to mention we have an all pro undrafted DT..


You say that like there's some tension between enjoying the occasional late round pick that yields a great player, and not expecting that to happen every year.
Also  
santacruzom : 8/10/2017 6:39 pm : link
If Flowers does not pan out to be a good NFL lineman, then I think most would feel taking him at #9 overall was a more egregious, impactful error than Thompson was at #144 overall. Call me fucking crazy.
Reese should be fired  
Jay on the Island : 8/10/2017 6:48 pm : link
He should have been fired when he was unable to predict that former 3rd round pick Chad Jones would be in a career ending car accident.
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BigBlueShock : 8/10/2017 6:50 pm : link
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Thompson may not even go down as the worst Giants pick of that particular draft year if Flowers has anything to say about it.



Says the guy who is OK with expecting absolutely nothing beyong round 4 in the draft despite our starting RB and RT being 5th and 6th rounds picks not to mention we have an all pro undrafted DT..



You say that like there's some tension between enjoying the occasional late round pick that yields a great player, and not expecting that to happen every year.

If anything, this guys argument proves that it is just as likely that an UFA can make an impact as a 5th or 6th rounder. It's a crap shoot at that stage, may as well go with a guy they feel has some upside. BBBs post says it. Great, great post.
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A fifth round pick? Wasted....Even he thought he wouldn't be drafted....hard to believe there wasn't an OLman there between that pick and Hart....

Well, here they are:
TACKLE
6 9 185 Tyrus Thompson Vikings Oklahoma
7 1 218 Anthony Morris Raiders Tennessee State
7 8 225 Jake Rodgers Falcons Eastern Washington
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5 16 152 Jarvis Harrison Jets Texas A&M
5 40 176 Robert Myers Ravens Tennessee State
6 7 183 Tayo Fabuluje Bears Texas Christian
6 14 190 Ian Silberman 49ers Boston College
6 39 215 Cody Wichmann Rams Fresno State
CENTER
5 30 166 Joe Cardona Patriots Navy
6 32 208 Andy Gallik Titans Boston College
7 5 222 Austin Reiter Redskins South Florida

Of those eleven linemen, only Wichmann and Cardona are still with their original teams. Wichmann is a likely backup. Cardona is purely a long-snapper.

Posting is easy. Drafting is hard.


And you make it even harder when you take someone who never should have been drafted.



Oh, puh-leeze.

Go back and look at the 2015 draft. You can make a case that Jay Ajayi or Stefon Diggs (both drafted shortly after Thompson) would have been better picks, but the rest of that draft is replete with guys "who never should have been drafted" but were, by all 32 teams.



You're wasting your time Klaatu. Jeff57 is one of the worst.



"Worst." Translation: "I can never admit that Reese made a mistake. Ever."



Oh, bullshit - Reese has made his share of mistakes just like every other GM in the history of the NFL

The difference is that you're bellyaching over a 5th round pick as if every other front office hit on their pick that round.

Look at the guys drafted there. How many of those names do you recognize? 2-3? There are 32 teams. Do the math.



Why can't you admit that it was a bad pick, at the time it was made. Not in hindsight. I got a lot of shit from some on here when I said it, at the time it was made. Still getting shit by some of the same folks who can't simply admit that it was a bad pick.


This post makes no sense.

How can anyone know a pick is "bad" the day it is made? You knew Thompson was going to get injured right away and wouldn't be able to get healthy?

If you were saying that the day the Giants called his name at the podium, I'd love to congratulate you on having a crystal ball and ask who else is going to get injured this year or not pan out.

Hindsight is the ONLY way to judge a draft pick. No one knows how any drafted player's career is going to play out until it plays out. That's kind of how it works.

If there was a way to know that a draft pick was bad the second it was made, people wouldn't make them.

When you consider the entire draft pool and the number of picks teams have - there's simply not as many quality players as there are picks.

Again, pick any NFL draft ever and I can show you several teams who picked a player who never panned out. It's fish in a barrel. When you get to later on in the draft, you're looking at a lot of guys that you're simply projecting because they have obvious flaws or lack of production. You're taking chances on things like measurables, potential, leadership, etc.

It's one thing to get on a GM for bad reach picks early in a draft when there are players left on the board who were widely regarded as better talents - players who have been more heavily scouted and analyzed.

To whine about a 5th rd pick that didn't pan out? Well, I'm not quite sure what your expectations are. Fans of about 25 other teams can look at that same round and say their GM "wasted" that pick. What would be the point?
I don't get the rage over a 5th-round pick  
81_Great_Dane : 8/10/2017 8:33 pm : link
who didn't make it. Most 5th-round picks don't. Maybe Thompson was a reach. But maybe the scouts spotted something they liked that made him worth a gamble.

So they gambled and it didn't work out. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Nobody hits on every pick.
Ok who said this...  
KWALL2 : 8/11/2017 12:36 am : link
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Why can't you admit that it was a bad pick, at the time it was made. Not in hindsight. I got a lot of shit from some on here when I said it, at the time it was made. Still getting shit by some of the same folks who can't simply admit that it was a bad pick.


Who is this joker?

"At the time" you knew it was a bad pick. Ok ....but the question that has to be asked is "how the fuck did you know it was a bad pick in 2015"? Explain that one.

You were aware of problems in his game back in 2014 and how this player wasn't worthy of a draft pick. Is that really the point you're trying to make here?
If he had stayed healthy...  
Milton : 8/11/2017 4:55 am : link
Who is to say how he would've done? The Giants drafted him to play nickel corner and to match up against big receivers and pass-catching TE's. And he might've been good at that if health had permitted.

When I projected the 53 man roster a couple weeks ago I included him, but with the stipulation that he needed to have a healthy camp. He didn't. And now he's gone. Not because the Giants misevaluated his talent, but because his string of injuries meant he was not someone they could rely on to say on the field.

I don't consider his 5th round selection and his time with the Giants to be an indictment on Reese. Shit happens.
5th round pick  
bc4life : 8/11/2017 5:22 am : link
Health was his problem. Even if he had stayed healthy and not made team may have caught on somewhere else.

5th round picks are locks to make any team and contribute? SMH.

Hopefully he can stay healthy and catch on somewhere else. If not, he gave it a shot
Jeffs your a whiny girl looking for praise  
Tuckrule : 8/11/2017 6:35 am : link
He was a fifth round pick. You didn't know who he was and you didn't like it. The odds of him ever making an impact beyond a backup were very slim. So to come on here saying you called it is the dumbest thing I've seen on here in a while. Don't let me stop you from playing couch GM I don't want to take away all your fun
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Paulie Walnuts : 8/11/2017 7:28 am : link
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In comment 13554922 Beer Man said:


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Another Jerry R. draft pick head-scratcher.



There's not really such a thing as a 5th round pick head scratcher.


nto fair to give Reese shit for a 5th round safety.. as a "reach"
This kind of comment..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/11/2017 8:50 am : link
is quite common here and I'm not sure why:

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Thompson looked like another example of Reese deciding he was smarter than every other GM. See also Robinson, Adrian


Is every GM that takes a guy as a sleeper being smug or is he looking for a jewel in the rough?

When guys like Andre Reed or Marques Colston were drafted from small schools, is that a GM thinking he's smarter than everyone else, or simply taking a flier that they have a player with a possible huge ceiling?

Picks like Thompson are made all the time. There are DI players who have measureables but not production that get drafted late every year. The majority of them don't pan out. Is that indicative of GM's trying to put the spotlight on themselves or trying to get maximum value from a draft slot that rarely returns value?

I don't know why, but there are a lot of people on BBI who think Reese makes each pick to feel superior and to brag rather than improve the team. I have no clue how that perception started or why it continues.
RE: The  
Stu11 : 8/11/2017 9:19 am : link
In comment 13555007 Crispino said:
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We're looking at arguably the best roster in recent memory right now, as constructed by our GM and staff. And every single team in the NFL misses in guys. Do the Patriots have a roster comprised 100% of their own draft picks? I don't think so. Everybody misses. The guys who miss the most lose their jobs. Reese still has his.

We could win the SB this year and there will be mouth breathers around here that will still say it was Accorsi's because he drafted Eli...
It's about time  
Carson53 : 8/11/2017 9:28 am : link
the guy could never stay healthy, no loss here.
Another great mid round pick...
Probably doing the kid a favor so he might catch on with another team  
Rudy5757 : 8/11/2017 11:04 am : link
Seems like he has some talent, just couldnt stay healthy. The Giants knew he wasn't going to make it at either Safety or CB so they let him go early enough so he could find a new team.

As for a wasted pick, I dont see it. He showed enough for the Giants to keep him around for a bit but kept getting hurt. I would consider a wasted pick a guy who gets cut 1st year. Plus 5th - 7th round is a crap shoot, you're talking about 125 players before them. You take some chances on athleticism, maybe something unique. This kid showed he could be on a roster.
Thank God  
Bluesbreaker : 8/11/2017 3:02 pm : link
When I clicked on my first thought that Darian Thompson got
hurt . I thought he was #27 .
Not even going to get into the selection not worth it
It seems to be a thing where we make mountains out of the molehill  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/11/2017 3:08 pm : link
of missing on late picks.

It's common. This happens everywhere.

If you miss in the 5th, that's the process. Ereck Flowers might be the first 1st round pick Reese has missed on in 10 years.

Those are the ones that cripple you if you mess up. There are teams in the NFL that can't even get those right.
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