Big Blue Interactive The Corner Forum  
Back to the Corner
 

Archived Thread

NFT: NYK chat - without the nonsense

Pep22 : 8/10/2017 12:28 pm
NFT: Knicks chat: rumors of knicks vs sixers christmas day at msg

nygiants16 : 8:47 am
also dwyan wade has been working out with thjr, jr has been putting in a lot of work thia off season, lot of pressure on him to perform

also melo was working out with cj mccollum among others as well, here is to hopeing he can convince melo on portland
I feel good about the hardaway move
djm : 8:51 am : link : reply
Even if it's knicksy and crazy. He's gonna be a good player here.

Just wish they could trade melo for one good young chip.

Pep22 : 9:03 am : link : reply
is supposed to be exclusively negative re: NYK and they've thoroughly earned that, but I think:

-all signs point to this being a bunch of positives re: front office hires

-THJ adds to a list of promising young players

-Sessions is guy I've always liked (defensively sound, can score well, will make the right play unlike Rose)

-if reports out of Milwaukee are true, Beasley on a one year MIN deal is a steal and a possible trade chip come February is the NYK are something like & gt; 5 games out of the 8 seed

Keith : 10:09 am : link : reply

Zach Randolph was arrested on Wednesday for drug possession and intent to sell it according to TMZ.

Z-Bo was one of three people to be arrested and it sparked "a crazy disturbance" that forced the cops to call for backup. He was arrested for possession of marijuana, though the "intent to sell" part was due to the large amount of weed found. The bail for his release was set for $20,000. At the least, a suspension for Z-Bo should be on the horizon, but the Kings and NBA will likely make a statement once more is known.


Lets use some common sense here and assume that Zbo isn't selling off the weed. Regardless, I'm sure his fall guy will take the hit on this one.

Knicks are on xmas day most years...
Italianju : 10:14 am : link : reply
and KP is going to be a heavily marketed player by the NBA. Wouldnt be surprised to see us on that day with or without Melo. Will prolly get the crappy noon time slot though, haha.


Agree on Plumlee
Deej : 10:17 am : link : reply
I think I said it in the last thread. The guy rebounds well and he is good at executing. E.g. he sets a very good pick. It doesnt show up in his stats, but a really good pick is terribly helpful for the guards.
Id really rather someone with more upside...
Italianju : 10:21 am : link : reply
then Plumlee. I know those guys arent just sitting around, but plumlee isnt good. Even the improved version we saw in summer league still looked avg at best to me. And that was against summer league competition. I mean if they bring him back so be it, but i dont really care one way or another.
I wouldn't
Enzo : 10:30 am : link : reply
mind Plumlee. He seems like he has a chance to be something slightly better than your typical end-of-the-bench stiff. Considering Noah is always missing games, some additional big man depth wouldn't hurt.
RE: Id really rather someone with more upside...
Deej : 10:30 am : link : reply
In comment 13554794 Italianju said:
Quote:
then Plumlee. I know those guys arent just sitting around, but plumlee isnt good. Even the improved version we saw in summer league still looked avg at best to me. And that was against summer league competition. I mean if they bring him back so be it, but i dont really care one way or another.


Im not big on "upside" guys for the 15th man on the roster. I'd rather a hard worker/locker room guy, especially if he's more ready to play some.

I just think that the "upside" marginal roster players really arent that high upside (or they wouldnt be marginal). They're by in large fools gold. And if they're all upside, you cant use them to bench the 9th man to hold him accountable.

Knicks have asked Melo to "expand his wish list"...
Mike in St. Louis : 10:33 am : link : reply
"According to Marc Berman of the New York Post, the Knicks have asked Carmelo Anthony to expand his "wish list" of teams to join.

Another day, another Melo rumor. It's no secret that his preference is to join Houston, but the Knicks aren't willing to make a "bad trade" -- the Rockets would likely have to include Ryan Anderson's bloated contract and the Knicks aren't interested. Berman adds that the Pelicans, Cavaliers, Thunder and Blazers are all waiting in the wings in the hope that Melo expands his list. The All-Star forward recently had "great conversations" with Knicks GM Scott Perry, but it sounds like both sides are still determined to orchestrate a move away from New York."


The trade that makes the most sense for everyone involved:
Jon in NYC : 10:38 am : link : reply
POR gets Melo

NYK gets

Zach Collins
Noah Vonleh (expiring)
Ed David (expiring)
Moe Harkless
2019 1st

Melo goes to a winning team. Portland has a chance to compete. Knicks get two young players, cap relief and a pick.
I would do that
Pep22 : 10:42 am : link : reply
even without Zach Collins

but alas...Melo wouldn't okay it doesn't matter

DanMetroMan : 10:45 am : link : reply
Nevertheless, an NBA source told The Post that Anthony has told the Knicks he would not agree to waive his no-trade clause for New Orleans.


Italianju : 10:56 am : link : reply
be a 6 seed or so if Melo fits in and doesnt play melo ball the whole time and nurkic can play a whole season like he did once he got to POR. That said they arent competing with the top 3 in the west


Frank Ntilikina
Pep22 : 11:22 am : link : reply
Good video posted (Twitter, Tommy and New Era Knicks).

Somewhat of a half-speed work-out but clearly the targeted skill areas were finishing with the off/left hand at the rim and dominant/right hand tear drops from 10 feet and in.

Valuable tools for him.
i deleted the other one  
nygiants16 : 8/10/2017 12:30 pm : link
..
Good  
Pep22 : 8/10/2017 12:34 pm : link
-- you're a knowledgeable guy and good contributor.



Can you restart with an em-dash  
Deej : 8/10/2017 12:41 pm : link
thx?
Seems  
DanMetroMan : 8/10/2017 2:59 pm : link
kinda loserish (if true)

The divide between Kyrie Irving and the Cleveland Cavaliers extends to his fellow teammates after he reportedly went multiple days during the playoffs without speaking to them.

During an appearance on The BBall Breakdown Podcast (via Dan Feldman of NBC Sports), ESPN's Dave McMenamin reported former Cavs forward James Jones said he saw Irving "go consecutive days without speaking to a teammate at practice" between the first and second rounds of the NBA playoffs.
Irving rumor  
jestersdead : 8/10/2017 3:27 pm : link
has anyone heard that a major reason he asked for the trade is that Lebron banged his girl?
woj says knicks/rockets....  
Italianju : 8/10/2017 5:29 pm : link
talking melo deal again, but that nothing has changed. Perry is being more particular (Woj's words) that jackson on what type of package he will accept. Both knicks and rockets seem willing to let this drag out until the season has started.
Woj  
DanMetroMan : 8/10/2017 5:29 pm : link
The New York Knicks and Houston Rockets have re-engaged on trade talks involving 10-time All-Star Carmelo Anthony, with the Rockets again canvassing third-team trade partners to construct a deal, league sources told ESPN.

i dont know if rockets would but  
nygiants16 : 8/10/2017 6:00 pm : link
woukd you take on anderson if houston offered capela?
I would but  
TommyWiseau : 8/10/2017 6:10 pm : link
I dont see them trading him at all
only reaaon to start talks again  
nygiants16 : 8/10/2017 9:12 pm : link
is if houston found a 3rd and 4th team to make the deal work, otherwise no reason to start talks again
RE: i dont know if rockets would but  
Deej : 8/11/2017 7:44 am : link
In comment 13555343 nygiants16 said:
Quote:
woukd you take on anderson if houston offered capela?


No. Capela to me isnt a star (though he has great advanced stats). Im not super hyped about maxing him. But add in Anderson and it's like 45 million for Capela. Yes, Anderson has some value, but Im not a fan of his game and he's not a good fit here.
RE: RE: i dont know if rockets would but  
nygiants16 : 8/11/2017 7:52 am : link
In comment 13555704 Deej said:
Quote:
In comment 13555343 nygiants16 said:


Quote:


woukd you take on anderson if houston offered capela?



No. Capela to me isnt a star (though he has great advanced stats). Im not super hyped about maxing him. But add in Anderson and it's like 45 million for Capela. Yes, Anderson has some value, but Im not a fan of his game and he's not a good fit here.


an amendment to my offer, what if they take on noah? now again i dont know why they would but maybe mills and perry are holding out for capela?
if they were willing to include him (they wont, but hypothetcially....  
Italianju : 8/11/2017 8:00 am : link
id try to spin him to a third team. He has a lot of value in the league, but we want to see what we have in WH and as mentioned above im not ready to pay him 20 mill a year. Get more assets for him and let someone else pay him.
woj on espn  
nygiants16 : 8/11/2017 8:18 am : link
said knicks still trying to get melo to open up his list even thpugh they restarted talks with houston...

knicks willing to go into season with melo...

portland feels it has made some progress in convincing melo to come to portland, mccollum doing a lot of recruiting..
The  
DanMetroMan : 8/11/2017 9:10 am : link
Knicks haven't revealed theirs yet have they?
Link - ( New Window )
What would Portland offer?  
adamg : 8/11/2017 9:30 am : link
Harkless and a mountain of picks?
RE: What would Portland offer?  
nygiants16 : 8/11/2017 9:36 am : link
In comment 13555821 adamg said:
Quote:
Harkless and a mountain of picks?


they alao have expirings, maybe could pry collins away
POR...  
Italianju : 8/11/2017 10:02 am : link
also has swanigan. They have plenty of assets to make a deal work.
RE: RE: RE: i dont know if rockets would but  
Deej : 8/11/2017 10:16 am : link
In comment 13555707 nygiants16 said:
Quote:
In comment 13555704 Deej said:


Quote:


In comment 13555343 nygiants16 said:


Quote:


woukd you take on anderson if houston offered capela?



No. Capela to me isnt a star (though he has great advanced stats). Im not super hyped about maxing him. But add in Anderson and it's like 45 million for Capela. Yes, Anderson has some value, but Im not a fan of his game and he's not a good fit here.



an amendment to my offer, what if they take on noah? now again i dont know why they would but maybe mills and perry are holding out for capela?


HOU would have to put Ariza and Gordon in the deal just to make salaries work. It's too big of a trade. I'd consider it.
A Portland  
Jon in NYC : 8/11/2017 10:18 am : link
deal makes far more sense than a Houston deal.

Houston has 0 I want.
New  
DanMetroMan : 8/11/2017 10:31 am : link
Knicks jersey
Link - ( New Window )
Back to the Corner