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NGT: The plight of the Packers

LCtheINTMachine : 8/10/2017 1:18 pm
If there is one team I am happy we don't have to face, it's these guys. They did a number on us both times last year. Time was we had their number but now they are the superior team. Obviously though I was happy they knocked out Dallas.

But they have made eight straight playoffs with five division titles. Yet somehow in the last six years have not made it to one Super Bowl - and this with Aaron Rodgers as the QB!

I believe these guys would be the NFC version of the Pats except they haven't been for some reason. But no NFC team has been a contender for a longer period of time. Instead they are the NFC version of the Steelers.

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Bold Ruler : Mod : 8/10/2017 1:21 pm : link
The final score in the playoffs  
Big Blue '56 : 8/10/2017 1:22 pm : link
will never reveal how thoroughly we were kicking Rodgers' ass. Deer in the headlights kicking..The hail Mary changed the entire momentum, but the absolute killer was DRC going down..We were only down by 3 in the 3rd qtr..

I have little fear of the Packers or anyone for that matter
Kicking Rodgers' ass that first half,  
Big Blue '56 : 8/10/2017 1:23 pm : link
that is
Fear?  
annexOPR : 8/10/2017 1:42 pm : link
If the WRs did their job (i.e, catch the ball) the Giants would've won

Scoreboard & record says what you are and all of that  
Motley Two : 8/10/2017 1:58 pm : link
but the Giants helped them quite a bit in their victory.

Giants lack of big game experience showed up.
No surprise that Eli looked the most composed & ready to play out there.

DRC injury hurt.

WR Unit went from wearing boots on boats a week before to wearing clown shoes on the field a week later. Still hard to wrap my head around whatever happened there. Parades are for after the game, boys.

Packers are a good team & it was their field.
NFC version of Pats?  
KWALL2 : 8/10/2017 2:38 pm : link
I don't think so. Not close.

When the Pats lost Brady they win. When they lose their backup they still win.

Packers without Rodgers? They're the Jaguars. Not the Patriots.
A huge component of kicking someone's ass  
djm : 8/10/2017 2:39 pm : link
Is scoring tds and/or finishing drives. Giants didn't do this in January.

That's not to say the giants aren't capable of lighting up Green Bay but they need to execute first.
You lost me at  
B in ALB : 8/10/2017 2:40 pm : link
"The"
RE: A huge component of kicking someone's ass  
Big Blue '56 : 8/10/2017 2:53 pm : link
In comment 13555183 djm said:
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Is scoring tds and/or finishing drives. Giants didn't do this in January.

That's not to say the giants aren't capable of lighting up Green Bay but they need to execute first.


Just citing what happened that first half. I have every reason to believe (unprovable of course) that if DRC stayed healthy, we'd have beaten them or lost in a close one, despite the severe deflating of the Hail Mary..Yes, you are what your record/score says you are, but that's what I firmly believe..

That first half ass iicking reminded me of what we did to Brady nearly the entire SB XLII
RE: A huge component of kicking someone's ass  
Big Blue '56 : 8/10/2017 2:53 pm : link
In comment 13555183 djm said:
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Is scoring tds and/or finishing drives. Giants didn't do this in January.

That's not to say the giants aren't capable of lighting up Green Bay but they need to execute first.


Just citing what happened that first half. I have every reason to believe (unprovable of course) that if DRC stayed healthy, we'd have beaten them or lost in a close one, despite the severe deflating of the Hail Mary..Yes, you are what your record/score says you are, but that's what I firmly believe..

That first half ass kicking reminded me of what we did to Brady nearly the entire SB XLII
You got..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/10/2017 2:58 pm : link
further than me!

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You lost me at
B in ALB : 2:40 pm : link : reply
"The"


I saw who created this fucking garbage and knew then.
RE: You got..  
B in ALB : 8/10/2017 3:02 pm : link
In comment 13555214 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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further than me!



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You lost me at
B in ALB : 2:40 pm : link : reply
"The"



I saw who created this fucking garbage and knew then.


I just like to punish myself.
Didn't we run out of bounds inside the five  
weeg in the bronx : 8/10/2017 3:41 pm : link
On a kick that would have resulted in an out of bounds penalty? We completely crumbled in that game.
I don't think the Packers have had a championship caliber  
mfsd : 8/10/2017 3:49 pm : link
defense in a few years
ask yourself  
bluepepper : 8/10/2017 4:04 pm : link
has there ever been a game that the Giants won by 25 points that you later didn't laugh at fans of the opposing team who claimed they would have won except for a dropped pass/fumble/bad ref call/whatever? Uh, probably not. Better team won that day and won handily. Playing it close for a half? Big deal. The game is 60 minutes long.

The DRC  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/10/2017 4:17 pm : link
injury was huge.

B in Alb  
LCtheINTMachine : 8/10/2017 4:20 pm : link
and Fatman, Thanks for the insults. I won't stoop to your level, though.

My point was that the Pack have been a really good championship-caliber team and yet not even advanced to the Bowl the last six years with Rodgers. Obviously it's the defense and other issues but it's just hard to believe. We all know Belichick would get them to the Bow once or twice in that span.
Giants could have won handily last year  
averagejoe : 8/10/2017 4:23 pm : link
Except for their horrendous offense. Pack could have been down big early but Giant 2016 offense was playing two men short. Cruz and Tye were invisible and did not need to be defended.

Packer defense last year was their weak spot. They were atrocious. I'm pretty confident the Giants now have the weapons to beat the Pack anytime anywhere. No fear.
You..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/10/2017 4:29 pm : link
don't need to thank us for the insults.

I'd be happy if you just stooped to the level of being an infrequent poster, but alas, we don't always get what we want.

I'd rather you didn't thank me and just either learn how to lead some decent football discussion or just shut the fuck up
RE: ask yourself  
Default : 8/10/2017 4:30 pm : link
In comment 13555259 bluepepper said:
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has there ever been a game that the Giants won by 25 points that you later didn't laugh at fans of the opposing team who claimed they would have won except for a dropped pass/fumble/bad ref call/whatever? Uh, probably not. Better team won that day and won handily. Playing it close for a half? Big deal. The game is 60 minutes long.


A lot of posters here have gold medals in mental gymnastics.
RE: B in Alb  
B in ALB : 8/10/2017 4:50 pm : link
In comment 13555271 LCtheINTMachine said:
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and Fatman, Thanks for the insults. I won't stoop to your level, though.

My point was that the Pack have been a really good championship-caliber team and yet not even advanced to the Bowl the last six years with Rodgers. Obviously it's the defense and other issues but it's just hard to believe. We all know Belichick would get them to the Bow once or twice in that span.


Insults? Me?

And your post is basically a "If my Aunt had a cock, she'd be my Uncle." Ok. What's you're fuckin point?
RE: RE: A huge component of kicking someone's ass  
HomerJones45 : 8/10/2017 5:02 pm : link
In comment 13555210 Big Blue '56 said:
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Is scoring tds and/or finishing drives. Giants didn't do this in January.

That's not to say the giants aren't capable of lighting up Green Bay but they need to execute first.



Just citing what happened that first half. I have every reason to believe (unprovable of course) that if DRC stayed healthy, we'd have beaten them or lost in a close one, despite the severe deflating of the Hail Mary..Yes, you are what your record/score says you are, but that's what I firmly believe..

That first half ass iicking reminded me of what we did to Brady nearly the entire SB XLII
Stop with the DRC excuse already. The Packer receivers were pretty beat up going into that game and two of them got knocked out of the game. Our "ass kicking" of Rodgers resulted in a 7-6 deficit in the second quarter.
Don't feed this  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 8/10/2017 5:15 pm : link
troll.
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Big Blue '56 : 8/10/2017 6:23 pm : link
In comment 13555302 HomerJones45 said:
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Is scoring tds and/or finishing drives. Giants didn't do this in January.

That's not to say the giants aren't capable of lighting up Green Bay but they need to execute first.



Just citing what happened that first half. I have every reason to believe (unprovable of course) that if DRC stayed healthy, we'd have beaten them or lost in a close one, despite the severe deflating of the Hail Mary..Yes, you are what your record/score says you are, but that's what I firmly believe..

That first half ass iicking reminded me of what we did to Brady nearly the entire SB XLII

Stop with the DRC excuse already. The Packer receivers were pretty beat up going into that game and two of them got knocked out of the game. Our "ass kicking" of Rodgers resulted in a 7-6 deficit in the second quarter.


I'm not referring to the score. We slapped the shit out of Rodgers. He admitted as much. The hail Mary got him out of his funk (he admitted that as well) and put us into one. He said after that Hail Mary, we weren't the same team. He could see how the air went out of us..This is all HIM talking not me..Whether you want to hear it or not, the DRC injury was an absolute killer. As to their injured, Eli had his way with their D, but our receivers incliding OBJ kept the Packers in the game..The juggernaut in the 4th was abot all things collapsing..That's what happened..The end result? The final score? They wound up kicking OUR ass
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Optimus-NY : 8/10/2017 7:58 pm : link
Bummer  
spike : 8/10/2017 8:20 pm : link
Rodgers can go crying to the arms of Olivia Munn.... o h wait.

RE: RE: A huge component of kicking someone's ass  
djm : 8/10/2017 8:59 pm : link
In comment 13555210 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 13555183 djm said:


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Is scoring tds and/or finishing drives. Giants didn't do this in January.

That's not to say the giants aren't capable of lighting up Green Bay but they need to execute first.



Just citing what happened that first half. I have every reason to believe (unprovable of course) that if DRC stayed healthy, we'd have beaten them or lost in a close one, despite the severe deflating of the Hail Mary..Yes, you are what your record/score says you are, but that's what I firmly believe..

That first half ass iicking reminded me of what we did to Brady nearly the entire SB XLII


My take on the 2016 giants is that they were a good but not great team. Every great team has flaws but we had too many flaws last year. Good team that could play great at times but not great enough for long enough stretches. To borrow a poker analogy the 2016 Giants didn't have enough "outs." They put the packers on notice last January for 30 minutes but that was the Giants best and they still trailed at halftime. If that was 2011 the giants would have held a ten point lead. It wasn't.

Giants need to grow and mature and field a better team in 2017. They had to play close to perfect in order to win last year, turnovers and all. Not enough outs. I believe the 2017 Giants will be better. They will have more margin for error and field a team that can tilt the field with more ease. 2016 offense had one bad ass player and one good one. The D was close to great but needed one more year of seasoning.

I really think there's a storm brewing here but we still need things to come together first.
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Big Blue '56 : 8/10/2017 9:06 pm : link
In comment 13555515 djm said:
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Is scoring tds and/or finishing drives. Giants didn't do this in January.

That's not to say the giants aren't capable of lighting up Green Bay but they need to execute first.



Just citing what happened that first half. I have every reason to believe (unprovable of course) that if DRC stayed healthy, we'd have beaten them or lost in a close one, despite the severe deflating of the Hail Mary..Yes, you are what your record/score says you are, but that's what I firmly believe..

That first half ass iicking reminded me of what we did to Brady nearly the entire SB XLII



My take on the 2016 giants is that they were a good but not great team. Every great team has flaws but we had too many flaws last year. Good team that could play great at times but not great enough for long enough stretches. To borrow a poker analogy the 2016 Giants didn't have enough "outs." They put the packers on notice last January for 30 minutes but that was the Giants best and they still trailed at halftime. If that was 2011 the giants would have held a ten point lead. It wasn't.

Giants need to grow and mature and field a better team in 2017. They had to play close to perfect in order to win last year, turnovers and all. Not enough outs. I believe the 2017 Giants will be better. They will have more margin for error and field a team that can tilt the field with more ease. 2016 offense had one bad ass player and one good one. The D was close to great but needed one more year of seasoning.

I really think there's a storm brewing here but we still need things to come together first.


Rather fair points
What does that make the  
section125 : 8/10/2017 9:14 pm : link
1987 to 90 Broncos?
When you can't score 20 points  
Doomster : 8/10/2017 11:10 pm : link
in your last 5 regular season games, was it surprising we couldn't score 20 points in the GB game?

This offense was broke all season.....If not for Eli to OBj, what did we really have?
A couple things  
Dr. D : 8/11/2017 10:00 am : link
1. McCarthy is NO Belichick. That's pretty obvious.

2. The Packers front office rarely does what the Giants have done the last 2 years and that is fill in holes with free agents. Yes the Packers signed Martellus this offseason, but they rarely do that and rely much more solely on their drafts.
Tell him how you really feel  
Bluesbreaker : 8/11/2017 4:56 pm : link
You..
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/10/2017 4:29 pm : link : reply
don't need to thank us for the insults.

I'd be happy if you just stooped to the level of being an infrequent poster, but alas, we don't always get what we want.

I'd rather you didn't thank me and just either learn how to lead some decent football discussion or just shut the fuck up

I see no comparison to GB and the Pats Rogers is special thats a given but last years Giants were a flawed team we
kept waiting for the offenes to come to life it never did
The hail mary took the wind out of our sales losing DRC
enhanced that because he could help with the blitz
with no JPP we couldn't stop them the defense finally
gave way . Brady is Brady but the Pats and little Bill
just keep interchanging parts and rolling along in a
weak division . Phins are a bit better but they already
lost there QB Bills and Jests are in proverbial rebuild
Hell they could probably win the division without
Brady . Not saying win the SB
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