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NFT: Dominic Smith joining the Mets tomorrow!

DanMetroMan : 8/10/2017 5:17 pm
@TheRealSmith22 Congrats! #DomTime #Mets
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And  
DanMetroMan : 8/10/2017 5:19 pm : link
Collins says Granderson will play be the starter because he's "too hot" to sit. Mets give, Mets take away lol.
RE: And  
Mike in NY : 8/10/2017 5:23 pm : link
In comment 13555309 DanMetroMan said:
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Collins says Granderson will play be the starter because he's "too hot" to sit. Mets give, Mets take away lol.


As I said in the other thread, only in Terry's warped mind is 3 for 17 in August "too hot" to sit. His refusal to give consistent reps to young players when the season is lost should cause him to be fired. Alas, ownership won't do that because it means they may have to pay money to him to not manage.
He really better retire next year.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/10/2017 5:26 pm : link
He has zero value if he's not coming through with his "players player hard for him" skill.
Eddie Coleman was on with Francesa last week  
Go Terps : 8/10/2017 5:33 pm : link
He said there was a knock from several scouts that Smith might be lazy and have a propensity to get out of shape. It's the first I'd heard...any truth to this?
RE: Eddie Coleman was on with Francesa last week  
Shecky : 8/10/2017 5:37 pm : link
In comment 13555323 Go Terps said:
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He said there was a knock from several scouts that Smith might be lazy and have a propensity to get out of shape. It's the first I'd heard...any truth to this?


ARRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Have to trade Grandy  
ZGiants98 : 8/10/2017 5:55 pm : link
Reyes
Nimmo
Cespedes
Conforto
Walker
Smith
Cabrera
Rosario
Harvey making rehab start  
ZGiants98 : 8/10/2017 5:57 pm : link
Still think he ends up in the pen next year barring a huge offseason.
At least someone has a sense of humor  
Shecky : 8/10/2017 6:15 pm : link
Already been suggested his nickname jersey should say DomnAte
RE: Eddie Coleman was on with Francesa last week  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/10/2017 6:27 pm : link
In comment 13555323 Go Terps said:
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He said there was a knock from several scouts that Smith might be lazy and have a propensity to get out of shape. It's the first I'd heard...any truth to this?


Earlier in his career he had an issue with conditioning and diet. Gained a lot of weight in a hurry and had to work on that. Haven't heard anything since.
He cleaned that up last off-season  
larryflower37 : 8/10/2017 7:09 pm : link
His weight has been in check all season and it might have been his best year.
RE: Harvey making rehab start  
Jay on the Island : 8/10/2017 7:38 pm : link
In comment 13555341 ZGiants98 said:
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Still think he ends up in the pen next year barring a huge offseason.

Are Harvey and Boras going to allow the Mets to move him to the bullpen in the final year of his contract?
RE: Eddie Coleman was on with Francesa last week  
Vanzetti : 8/10/2017 7:41 pm : link
In comment 13555323 Go Terps said:
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He said there was a knock from several scouts that Smith might be lazy and have a propensity to get out of shape. It's the first I'd heard...any truth to this?


No just the same stupid racist crap that Gavone has been spewing for the last 30 years. Cuz you know if a black guy is overweight, he must be lazy. Unless he plays for the Yankees. Then, he can firebomb orphanages and it's all good.
Flores keeps on  
Metnut : 8/10/2017 8:04 pm : link
hitting. Another dinger tonight. Kid might have 25-30 HR potential but we'll never find out with Terry in charge.
RE: Flores keeps on  
spike : 8/10/2017 8:08 pm : link
In comment 13555434 Metnut said:
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hitting. Another dinger tonight. Kid might have 25-30 HR potential but we'll never find out with Terry in charge.


He is a starter without a position yet. Let him play!! He has more HRs than Cespedes this season
DeGrom is such a stud...  
Metnut : 8/10/2017 8:24 pm : link
glad to have him in blue and orange. His stats are a little underrated this year because he's been victimized a bit by the Mets defense.
RE: Have to trade Grandy  
Metnut : 8/10/2017 8:25 pm : link
In comment 13555340 ZGiants98 said:
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Reyes
Nimmo
Cespedes
Conforto
Walker
Smith
Cabrera
Rosario


You'd really play Reyes everyday over Flores? Why?
would you re-sign granderson  
CMicks3110 : 8/10/2017 9:04 pm : link
as a 4th outfielder? insurance?
My line-up  
Mike in NY : 8/10/2017 9:07 pm : link
Nimmo/CF
Walker/2B
Conforto/RF
Cespedes/LF
Smith/1B
Flores/3B
d'Arnaud/C
Rosario/SS
RE: DeGrom is such a stud...  
spike : 8/10/2017 9:14 pm : link
In comment 13555460 Metnut said:
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glad to have him in blue and orange. His stats are a little underrated this year because he's been victimized a bit by the Mets defense.


He might win 20 games this season
Flores is still only 26 and very productive  
spike : 8/10/2017 9:16 pm : link
He should be considered part of this Mets core
Lagares is back  
spike : 8/10/2017 9:17 pm : link
so we should alternate playing him and Nimmo
take Degrom out  
spike : 8/10/2017 9:18 pm : link
he is at 100 pitches and got hit by a batted ball
deGrom is the heart and soul of this mets team  
spike : 8/10/2017 9:29 pm : link
We cant afford to lose him
Nimmo  
spike : 8/10/2017 9:49 pm : link
should be our future CF and leadoff hitter. He would be perfect
RE: RE: Harvey making rehab start  
ZGiants98 : 8/10/2017 10:36 pm : link
In comment 13555414 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13555341 ZGiants98 said:


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Still think he ends up in the pen next year barring a huge offseason.


Are Harvey and Boras going to allow the Mets to move him to the bullpen in the final year of his contract?


What can they do? He's on his rookie contract. They have no pull. I think Harvey will have a chance to compete for maybe one spot in the rotation in the spring. He'll be competing with about 5 other guys though. I think it's a good thing. It's what should have happened this year. We just had so many injuries it was ridiculous but in reality a few of those guys should have helped the pen.
RE: My line-up  
ZGiants98 : 8/10/2017 10:37 pm : link
In comment 13555524 Mike in NY said:
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Nimmo/CF
Walker/2B
Conforto/RF
Cespedes/LF
Smith/1B
Flores/3B
d'Arnaud/C
Rosario/SS


Flores was a mistake omission on my part. I do like Flores better at 2B though where his arm won't get him in trouble as much.
Deal Walker and put Cecchini at 2nd  
Eric on Li : 8/10/2017 10:45 pm : link
I know, I know, not having a great year. But he had a solid July and I'm sure part of his lull this year is just being sick of the 110 degrees in Vegas. His errors at 2nd seem to be minimized and the last time we saw him he took Kershaw deep. Let's give him 6 weeks to see what he's got.
Salas DFA'ed for Smith  
spike : 8/10/2017 11:44 pm : link
win win!
Guys  
DanMetroMan : 8/11/2017 7:42 am : link
Smith is very heavy currently. This isn't an old story. He's currently carrying too much weight. Whether it effects his game is another story but scouts have mentioned it as recently as last week and photos confirm this. He's "fat"
RE: Eddie Coleman was on with Francesa last week  
DanMetroMan : 8/11/2017 7:43 am : link
In comment 13555323 Go Terps said:
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He said there was a knock from several scouts that Smith might be lazy and have a propensity to get out of shape. It's the first I'd heard...any truth to this?


Lazy no idea, out of shape yes. He's out of shape
.  
DanMetroMan : 8/11/2017 7:44 am : link
"Mets officials will be monitoring Smith’s weight. The rotund Smith lost 24 pounds last offseason, but has gained much of it back in the last four months, according to sources, albeit not at the expense of his offensive production."

I saw him with my own eyes watching the 51's last week, he "looks" sloppy but hasn't impacted his hitting to this point. This isn't some Mets hating or racism, he's fat for an MLB player.
From 7/26  
DanMetroMan : 8/11/2017 7:47 am : link



He's acknowledged his love of Mexican food/not watching his diet in the past.
.  
DanMetroMan : 8/11/2017 7:51 am : link
Should be up soobn-Jamie Callahan pitched the 8th and 9th - a hit, a walk and 2 Ks on just 24 pitches
Only in 2017  
Chris684 : 8/11/2017 8:29 am : link
Does calling someone "fat" have to be clarified as not a "racist" comment.

Anyway, maybe Dom is packing on a few pounds, maybe there are just too many buffets in Vegas. I'm still excited for this kid. If he can stay within 20-25 pounds and not have it affect the way he hits the ball, feed the man.
RE: Only in 2017  
Deej : 8/11/2017 9:05 am : link
In comment 13555725 Chris684 said:
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Does calling someone "fat" have to be clarified as not a "racist" comment.

Anyway, maybe Dom is packing on a few pounds, maybe there are just too many buffets in Vegas. I'm still excited for this kid. If he can stay within 20-25 pounds and not have it affect the way he hits the ball, feed the man.


I assumed the not racism part was re lazy, not fat.
The  
DanMetroMan : 8/11/2017 9:05 am : link
Mets apparently had a deal at the deadline sending Walker to the Yankees but the Yankees backed out citing medical concerns. I'd dump Walker and Grandy for "anything" right now. Open up AB's.
He does look big. Lazy is another story entirely  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/11/2017 9:05 am : link
Looks like it will be something they have to monitor for a while.

I don't even care if he's heavy. He's a 1B.

But that better come with better power numbers. Nobody likes a fat contact hitter.
Oddly  
DanMetroMan : 8/11/2017 9:09 am : link
enough he really reminds me of Dmitri Young offensively. He's smooth in the field, range is meh however.
I'd sign up for Young at the plate from Smith  
Deej : 8/11/2017 9:12 am : link
As for his body, my hope is that being around pros will rub off on him. Nothing like vets to show by example that if you want to stick around, you have to treat your body better.

Or Ces will get him smoking. One or the other.
Hopefully he can be the next  
Chris684 : 8/11/2017 9:12 am : link
Kirby Puckett or Tony Gwynn.

Those guys didnt exactly have beach bodies.
Runs  
DanMetroMan : 8/11/2017 9:12 am : link
a bit better than would expect once he gets moving (obviously not a stolen base threat), strong arm. Not many MLB players currently are built like him. Closer to Prince Fielder build than Ortiz but even then, Dom looks "soft", more like Cecil (not as big), Prince always looked like a linebacker to me.
RE: Hopefully he can be the next  
DanMetroMan : 8/11/2017 9:14 am : link
In comment 13555785 Chris684 said:
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Kirby Puckett or Tony Gwynn.

Those guys didnt exactly have beach bodies.


Gwynn body wise is a good comp. "Soft" bodied. Puckett was in better shape than Gwynn or Dom.
RE: I'd sign up for Young at the plate from Smith  
DanMetroMan : 8/11/2017 9:16 am : link
In comment 13555782 Deej said:
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As for his body, my hope is that being around pros will rub off on him. Nothing like vets to show by example that if you want to stick around, you have to treat your body better.

Or Ces will get him smoking. One or the other.


Young was extremely underrated as a 1b. Both he and Sean Casey were underrated due the era they played in. Young from 98-2007-117 OPS+ .295/.350/.488
RE: RE: I'd sign up for Young at the plate from Smith  
DanMetroMan : 8/11/2017 9:17 am : link
In comment 13555789 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 13555782 Deej said:


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As for his body, my hope is that being around pros will rub off on him. Nothing like vets to show by example that if you want to stick around, you have to treat your body better.

Or Ces will get him smoking. One or the other.



Young was extremely underrated as a 1b. Both he and Sean Casey were underrated due the era they played in. Young from 98-2007-117 OPS+ .295/.350/.488


I should clarify, not Young's PLAY at 1b. He was an awful fielder. But as a 1b in the era he played guy is underrated or was.
I forget what former pitcher wrote about it  
Deej : 8/11/2017 9:18 am : link
but someone wrote in the last few years about how terrible the MiLB player eats. Takeout fast food after games. It's so weird to me that Smith gained the fat back IN SEASON. Teams should be catering the MiLB teams with healthy food.

I compare this to all the writeups about the healthy fare at NFL training camps. In some ways baseball is still so backwards.
RE: I forget what former pitcher wrote about it  
Shecky : 8/11/2017 9:24 am : link
In comment 13555792 Deej said:
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but someone wrote in the last few years about how terrible the MiLB player eats. Takeout fast food after games. It's so weird to me that Smith gained the fat back IN SEASON. Teams should be catering the MiLB teams with healthy food.

I compare this to all the writeups about the healthy fare at NFL training camps. In some ways baseball is still so backwards.


Mets, especially in PSL, are one of the better franchises at this actually.
RE: The  
Shecky : 8/11/2017 9:25 am : link
In comment 13555764 DanMetroMan said:
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Mets apparently had a deal at the deadline sending Walker to the Yankees but the Yankees backed out citing medical concerns. I'd dump Walker and Grandy for "anything" right now. Open up AB's.


Yankees leak within seconds. Twice. Mets get their 'revenge'.
RE: I forget what former pitcher wrote about it  
DanMetroMan : 8/11/2017 9:26 am : link
In comment 13555792 Deej said:
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but someone wrote in the last few years about how terrible the MiLB player eats. Takeout fast food after games. It's so weird to me that Smith gained the fat back IN SEASON. Teams should be catering the MiLB teams with healthy food.

I compare this to all the writeups about the healthy fare at NFL training camps. In some ways baseball is still so backwards.


One of the first things Gabe Kapler did in LA was change the food habits. Kapler likely won't take the job but he'd be high on my list as next manager. Really smart guy,
There's half a dozen LA guys I'd hire  
Shecky : 8/11/2017 9:29 am : link
Really, REALLY bothers me that the Mets were really the first big city franchise to say we are going to revamp from top to bottom. Beginning they did it well. Then Chicago, LA, and cross town beat them to it and did it better.
Those are both good comparisons for Dom  
Eric on Li : 8/11/2017 9:31 am : link
ultimately his best tool is his ability to make contact, we know he doesn't have a traditional first base power upside, but if he can maximize that contact ability he should have enough power to do so some damage.
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