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Ezekiel Elliott Suspension Tomorrow

Nick in LA : 8/11/2017 4:04 am
Reportedly. I know it was discussed the other day but this was reported tonight. We shall see.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/08/10/ezekiel-elliott-suspension-expected/ - ( New Window )
Whats interesting  
djstat : 8/11/2017 7:12 am : link
Is Zeke may get the same suspension as Tom Brady. One might have helped deflate footballs and the other may have beaten up his girlfriend...WTF?
If Brady only deflated footballs  
UConn4523 : 8/11/2017 7:17 am : link
it probably would have just been 1 game. But he chose to lie and impede and investigation, so there's that...
Could he really get 6 games? I was thinking 2.  
GiantBlue : 8/11/2017 7:17 am : link
Ross Tucker @RossTuckerNFL .

Just said on @SiriusXMNFL that I anticipated Zeke suspension to be 1-4 games & got immediate text from good source: "DON'T RULE OUT 6"
Jerrah will fix it  
Paulie Walnuts : 8/11/2017 7:30 am : link
we'll be facing him in week one
If Elliott gets anything in the 4-6 game range  
Matt in SGS : 8/11/2017 7:59 am : link
there is a video tape somewhere that the NFL is aware of and are trying to get ahead of the outrage. I agree with Paulie, they will find a way to have him out there in Week 1 though.
RE: If Brady only deflated footballs  
mfsd : 8/11/2017 8:02 am : link
In comment 13555685 UConn4523 said:
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it probably would have just been 1 game. But he chose to lie and impede and investigation, so there's that...


Thank you - he got the 4 when he destroyed his cell phone the day the NFL asked to look at it.
RE: If Elliott gets anything in the 4-6 game range  
Big Blue '56 : 8/11/2017 8:06 am : link
In comment 13555708 Matt in SGS said:
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there is a video tape somewhere that the NFL is aware of and are trying to get ahead of the outrage. I agree with Paulie, they will find a way to have him out there in Week 1 though.


Not so sure. They didn't find a way to get Brady out there week 1 last year
RE: RE: If Elliott gets anything in the 4-6 game range  
MetsAreBack : 8/11/2017 8:18 am : link
In comment 13555712 Big Blue '56 said:
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there is a video tape somewhere that the NFL is aware of and are trying to get ahead of the outrage. I agree with Paulie, they will find a way to have him out there in Week 1 though.



Not so sure. They didn't find a way to get Brady out there week 1 last year


? They delayed Brady's suspension an entire year, not just week 1.
Hopefully that  
McNally's_Nuts : 8/11/2017 8:47 am : link
settles the "I would have liked to play them at full strength!" crowd.
Like I wrote on the other thread  
jpennyva : 8/11/2017 8:50 am : link
It will be six games, he'll appeal, the appeal won't be completed until after game one against the Giants, and the suspension will be reduced to one or two games right after week one so that one of the games he's not playing is Denver. I truly will be shocked if it plays out any other way.
No team should be allowed to play the Cowboys at less than  
adamg : 8/11/2017 9:08 am : link
Full strength. Suspend the suspensions! Fairness and equality for all!
RE: No team should be allowed to play the Cowboys at less than  
mfsd : 8/11/2017 9:10 am : link
In comment 13555774 adamg said:
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Full strength. Suspend the suspensions! Fairness and equality for all!


Agreed...if they have any guys injured, the game should be postponed until they're all healthy.
Can't wait to see how great of a QB  
barens : 8/11/2017 9:10 am : link
Dak will be without Elliott.
I'm gonna guestimate 2 games.  
Keith : 8/11/2017 9:16 am : link
He appeals and the appeal process brings it to next season.
I know they..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/11/2017 9:19 am : link
open up against the Giants, but if you are a team with a player with a looming suspension, wouldn't you want him to serve it and get it over rather than have it extend into the season a bit?

Seems like the continuity issues outweigh the fact he's missing the Giants game.

When the Steelers or Pats lost Bell and Brady to start a year, it had a slight impact, but then they at least know both guys are back week 5 and they are ready to roll.
FMIC  
Keith : 8/11/2017 9:21 am : link
not if they believe they can reduce or eliminate the suspension with an appeal.
RE: Can't wait to see how great of a QB  
trueblueinpw : 8/11/2017 9:21 am : link
In comment 13555780 barens said:
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Dak will be without Elliott.


Me too. Even if it's one game against the Rams.
Okay  
Carson53 : 8/11/2017 9:25 am : link
Jerruh is now in the Hall, NFL has been dragging this out
because of that underlying reason. Give Elliot his richly deserved 4 games, and lets move on already. Let him appeal,
that's what they do.
RE: RE: RE: If Elliott gets anything in the 4-6 game range  
ajr2456 : 8/11/2017 9:27 am : link
In comment 13555720 MetsAreBack said:
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there is a video tape somewhere that the NFL is aware of and are trying to get ahead of the outrage. I agree with Paulie, they will find a way to have him out there in Week 1 though.



Not so sure. They didn't find a way to get Brady out there week 1 last year



? They delayed Brady's suspension an entire year, not just week 1.


Didn't that have to with the suspension being taken to court?
Brady  
bigbb : 8/11/2017 9:30 am : link
Suspension was because it went to the Supreme Court that's why it was delayed he will serve his suspension this year
RE: Brady  
YAJ2112 : 8/11/2017 9:35 am : link
In comment 13555820 bigbb said:
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Suspension was because it went to the Supreme Court that's why it was delayed he will serve his suspension this year


Um, Brady served his suspension already.
Hope not. Would rather face the Cowboys with all their  
Jimmy Googs : 8/11/2017 9:35 am : link
stars...
RE: Brady  
Carson53 : 8/11/2017 9:40 am : link
In comment 13555820 bigbb said:
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Suspension was because it went to the Supreme Court that's why it was delayed he will serve his suspension this year
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It never went to the Supreme Court, they would have laughed
at that case, and never would have taken it.
The Supreme Court doesn't deal with PSI in a football.
It's not Roe vs. Wade, same sex marriage or even the Ali situation years ago.
If the suspension is truly being handed out tomorrow  
Mike from Ohio : 8/11/2017 9:53 am : link
why would people believe it won't be ruled upon until after Week 1 of the season? What would they do for the next month, just not talk about it?

If he is suspended there will certainly be an appeal, but I don't see why that appeal would not be resolved well before the Week 1 kickoff. If he is on the field against us I expect it would be because the suspension was lifted, not because he will serve it starting Week 2.
No way Zeke Elliott  
fbdad : 8/11/2017 10:02 am : link
gets suspended for a inter-division, season opening game between two big TV market teams. This will get appealled and delayed
RE: Brady  
Mad Mike : 8/11/2017 10:03 am : link
In comment 13555820 bigbb said:
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Suspension was because it went to the Supreme Court that's why it was delayed he will serve his suspension this year

Hitting the bottle early?
RE: I know they..  
jpennyva : 8/11/2017 10:05 am : link
In comment 13555793 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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open up against the Giants, but if you are a team with a player with a looming suspension, wouldn't you want him to serve it and get it over rather than have it extend into the season a bit?

Seems like the continuity issues outweigh the fact he's missing the Giants game.

When the Steelers or Pats lost Bell and Brady to start a year, it had a slight impact, but then they at least know both guys are back week 5 and they are ready to roll.


Perhaps if they were playing another team, but given that the Giants and Cowboys will be the two teams vying for the NFC East, I could see the Cowboys working hard to keep one of their main offensive weapons in the season opener. Were they playing the 'Skins or Philly, they might not be quite as concerned. It's not out of the realm of possibilities that the NFC East comes down to a head-to-head or division record. That's why I tend to think they will do what they can to keep Elliot in the game.
RE: No way Zeke Elliott  
pjcas18 : 8/11/2017 10:06 am : link
In comment 13555882 fbdad said:
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gets suspended for a inter-division, season opening game between two big TV market teams. This will get appealled and delayed


intra-division

sorry to be the grammar dick, not going to be the spelling dick though, so there's that.
RE: If the suspension is truly being handed out tomorrow  
Big Blue '56 : 8/11/2017 10:13 am : link
In comment 13555860 Mike from Ohio said:
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why would people believe it won't be ruled upon until after Week 1 of the season? What would they do for the next month, just not talk about it?

If he is suspended there will certainly be an appeal, but I don't see why that appeal would not be resolved well before the Week 1 kickoff. If he is on the field against us I expect it would be because the suspension was lifted, not because he will serve it starting Week 2.


Mike on target
RE: Jerrah will fix it  
micky : 8/11/2017 10:28 am : link
In comment 13555695 Paulie Walnuts said:
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we'll be facing him in week one


Somehow I believe this to be the case unfortunately
RE: RE: If the suspension is truly being handed out tomorrow  
Keith : 8/11/2017 10:33 am : link
In comment 13555896 Big Blue '56 said:
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why would people believe it won't be ruled upon until after Week 1 of the season? What would they do for the next month, just not talk about it?

If he is suspended there will certainly be an appeal, but I don't see why that appeal would not be resolved well before the Week 1 kickoff. If he is on the field against us I expect it would be because the suspension was lifted, not because he will serve it starting Week 2.



Mike on target


Well look at the Tom Brady situation. He appealed and then took it to court. I would expect Jerrah to do the same. I can see this going until next season.
they handled  
TommyWiseau : 8/11/2017 10:35 am : link
Appeals really quick last year. No way I see this suspension being dragged out over a month
RE: RE: RE: If the suspension is truly being handed out tomorrow  
Big Blue '56 : 8/11/2017 10:49 am : link
In comment 13555931 Keith said:
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why would people believe it won't be ruled upon until after Week 1 of the season? What would they do for the next month, just not talk about it?

If he is suspended there will certainly be an appeal, but I don't see why that appeal would not be resolved well before the Week 1 kickoff. If he is on the field against us I expect it would be because the suspension was lifted, not because he will serve it starting Week 2.



Mike on target



Well look at the Tom Brady situation. He appealed and then took it to court. I would expect Jerrah to do the same. I can see this going until next season.


Who knows? Question is, who has/had the stronger case for appeal, Brady or ZE?
The Tom Brady case was unique for several reasons  
Milton : 8/11/2017 10:55 am : link
Most appeals don't require a federal court ruling as well. And the only reason this has dragged out as long as it has is because the NFL is making sure to dot all i's and cross all t's before going ahead with the suspension. If there is an appeal, it won't be successful, and it won't require the backing of a federal court before it's implemented.

Not that I care. The Giants will kick Cowboys ass with or without Elliot.
6 games would be outrageous  
NoPeanutz : 8/11/2017 10:56 am : link
it's not like they caught him smoking a marijuana
I'd prefer he played against us  
BillT : 8/11/2017 11:00 am : link
Not for any of the "beating them with their best" stuff but because we are going to beat them anyway. Let Elliot sit out games where he could be the difference. That's what's best for us.
I wonder what the window is for filing an appeal?  
GmanND : 8/11/2017 11:01 am : link
It's pre-season. If they hand out a suspension couldn't the Cowboys say they are reviewing their options etc until shortly before game 1 and then appeal so he would be in the clear at least for game 1?
RE: The Tom Brady case was unique for several reasons  
Keith : 8/11/2017 11:08 am : link
In comment 13555958 Milton said:
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Most appeals don't require a federal court ruling as well. And the only reason this has dragged out as long as it has is because the NFL is making sure to dot all i's and cross all t's before going ahead with the suspension. If there is an appeal, it won't be successful, and it won't require the backing of a federal court before it's implemented.

Not that I care. The Giants will kick Cowboys ass with or without Elliot.


Yet the biggest commonality is ownership. I can see Jones doing everything Kraft did and fight it as much as possible.
Darren  
Fish : 8/11/2017 11:20 am : link
McFadden is no slouch. Just saying don't think its an easy game because Zeke is out.
.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/11/2017 11:21 am : link
Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter 14m14 minutes ago

Under terms of NFL personal conduct policy, Ezekiel Elliott could be facing potential 6-game suspension for allegation of physical violence.
RE: Darren  
Big Blue '56 : 8/11/2017 11:28 am : link
In comment 13555989 Fish said:
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McFadden is no slouch. Just saying don't think its an easy game because Zeke is out.


Agreed. Too, with the exception here and there, EVERY GAME against an NFC East opponent is a war..Rarely easy..We'd be far from a lock
RE: Darren  
PatersonPlank : 8/11/2017 11:28 am : link
In comment 13555989 Fish said:
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McFadden is no slouch. Just saying don't think its an easy game because Zeke is out.


Also Alfred Morris. He's killed us before.
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arcarsenal : 8/11/2017 11:29 am : link
Elliott is far better than McFadden.

If Elliott does get a 6 game suspension, don't be surprised if Jaylon Smith's brother emerges and starts getting a good deal of touches.
RE: RE: Brady  
Saos1n : 8/11/2017 11:30 am : link
In comment 13555884 Mad Mike said:
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Suspension was because it went to the Supreme Court that's why it was delayed he will serve his suspension this year


Hitting the bottle early?


I read that as a terrible run on sentence... I think he meant that Zele would serve his suspension this year, not Brady...
Not just McFadden  
pjcas18 : 8/11/2017 11:30 am : link
the Cowboys also have Alfred Morris.

The Giants have never lost a game where Alfred Morris was the lead RB right? I know they've lost at least a couple while he was with the Redskins and the Cowboys have a better OL.

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arcarsenal : 8/11/2017 11:33 am : link
The majority of the damage Morris did against the Giants was in the read option with WSH when we couldn't figure out how the fuck to defend it.

I'm far less concerned about him now.
RE: Not just McFadden  
YAJ2112 : 8/11/2017 11:35 am : link
In comment 13556004 pjcas18 said:
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the Cowboys also have Alfred Morris.

The Giants have never lost a game where Alfred Morris was the lead RB right? I know they've lost at least a couple while he was with the Redskins and the Cowboys have a better OL.


How many of those games did we have Snacks?
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pjcas18 : 8/11/2017 11:40 am : link
In comment 13556011 arcarsenal said:
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The majority of the damage Morris did against the Giants was in the read option with WSH when we couldn't figure out how the fuck to defend it.

I'm far less concerned about him now.


far less concerned about Morris than McFadden? Not sure I get that, it's really the OL, neither RB is fearsome at this stage, but McFadden is 30 years old coming off injury and was ineffective last year in the few carries he had spelling Zeke.

no clue why someone would be concerned about McFadden but far less concerned about Morris.

RE: RE: Not just McFadden  
pjcas18 : 8/11/2017 11:45 am : link
In comment 13556012 YAJ2112 said:
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the Cowboys also have Alfred Morris.

The Giants have never lost a game where Alfred Morris was the lead RB right? I know they've lost at least a couple while he was with the Redskins and the Cowboys have a better OL.




How many of those games did we have Snacks?


My point was simply the story line of yeah there's no Elliott but they still have McFadden isn't complete, they have Alfred Morris too.

Don't fear Morris, then good for you, the Giants can stop either McFadden or Morris and Ronnie Hilman once he fumbles the ball.

I wasn't saying I fear any of them or the Giants will struggle with any of them.
The fact that it seems the NFL is waiting to make the announcement  
TheMick7 : 8/11/2017 11:50 am : link
until Friday afternoon-the best time to release bad news to the media-makes me believe the punishment will be harsh!
Those RBs  
Fish : 8/11/2017 11:53 am : link
will be fresh for game 1, well before McFadden has his usual injury. For one or two games they can spell Zeke. They were legit Rbs in this league whereas a player like Randle (I think he was a back up RB for Dallas) is a JAG.
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arcarsenal : 8/11/2017 11:57 am : link
In comment 13556016 pjcas18 said:
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The majority of the damage Morris did against the Giants was in the read option with WSH when we couldn't figure out how the fuck to defend it.

I'm far less concerned about him now.



far less concerned about Morris than McFadden? Not sure I get that, it's really the OL, neither RB is fearsome at this stage, but McFadden is 30 years old coming off injury and was ineffective last year in the few carries he had spelling Zeke.

no clue why someone would be concerned about McFadden but far less concerned about Morris.


Doesn't seem like you really read my post.

I said nothing about Morris in relation to McFadden. I'm talking about Alfred Morris now and Alfred Morris 5 years ago.
Morris has stunk for two years now  
Greg from LI : 8/11/2017 2:25 pm : link
He succeeded in the Shanahan offense, like virtually every other RB who has ever played for Shanahan. After Shanahan, he has looked very ordinary.
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