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Dan_Soprano : 8/12/2017 8:39 am
I'm interested to know how Webb looked last night from someone in the tristate area that actually got to see the whole game. Stupid NFLN kept switching to to horrible 9'ers game down here in Florida. In the very few snaps they showed of him that I was able to see, he seemed to move well, and when throwing from the pocket actually looks very similar to Eli mechanics wise. Thanks in advance Guys and Girls! Go Big Blue!!
A quick release.  
JohnB : 8/12/2017 8:47 am : link
He's a 3rd round draft choice rookie QB.

He only played the last 7 minutes of the game so you couldn't tell much but he outplayed Johnson and I liked him almost as much as Geno....RIGHT NOW! Give him time and we will see.
I thought he had a  
AnishPatel : 8/12/2017 8:51 am : link
fair performance. He throws a good ball. His first threw was all nerves as he threw a fast ball high. He had a deep ball throw which seems to be on the money but the Wr couldn't hang on. I am interested in seeing more of him.

I thought the 'star" of the QB show was Geno. I came away impressed by his performance. I think he needed a scenery change and I think he can do well here.
I would say it was very good and promising  
Ron Johnson 30 : 8/12/2017 8:58 am : link
You could see the poise
For his first ever NFL appearance playing with the  
dpinzow : 8/12/2017 9:02 am : link
4th stringers he looked pretty good
Every snap came from the shotgun,  
CT Charlie : 8/12/2017 9:35 am : link
which we're sure was deliberate. Here's hoping he can develop his footwork; by all reports, he's willing to work at it.
Although the negatives you expect with a raw rookie were in evidence..  
Big Blue Blogger : 8/12/2017 9:41 am : link
... I thought he looked surprisingly comfortable in the offense, especially surrounded by chaos and scrubs on both sides. Small sample obviously, but he already throws a very pretty ball to the flat, which is an important staple of McAdoo's playbook. The arm talent we've read about is obvious on short, medium and deep throws. Footwork and pocket awareness were a pleasant surprise too. He was racing through his progressions, which is understandable, given the circumstances. At some point, the game will slow down for him, if he ever gets to play.

Overall, he was much better than I expected. Can't really weigh in on him as a possible #2 QB unless we get to see him with the starters (and the opponent's starters).
After last night,  
Doomster : 8/12/2017 9:44 am : link
we need to see less Johnson and more Webb...
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Danny Kanell : 8/12/2017 9:46 am : link
He looks like an NFL QB, unlike that dreck that started the game.
You can see the tools immediately  
JonC : 8/12/2017 9:57 am : link
No idea why he was a 3rd round pick as I've had no real time to dig into it, but looks like a promising pick.
Obviously very small sample size, and he came out a little jumpy  
jcn56 : 8/12/2017 10:01 am : link
(first action, not criticizing him), but he looked promising.

Promising enough that I'd rather dump the other QBs on the roster and just go with him for both the cap and roster spot savings. If we're down to #2 QB we're basically screwed regardless, might as well see what we've got, get him some live fire, and save the other resources.
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Big Blue '56 : 8/12/2017 10:19 am : link
In comment 13557732 Danny Kanell said:
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He looks like an NFL QB, unlike that dreck that started the game.


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To me, the only snap reaction to be taken seriously  
Jimmy Googs : 8/12/2017 10:22 am : link
is to rid ourselves of Johnson now...
Game is on again at 5 PM today  
Steve in South Jersey : 8/12/2017 10:28 am : link
I will look in to see the Webb part that was not shown last night.
RE: Obviously very small sample size, and he came out a little jumpy  
Jim in Tampa : 8/12/2017 10:52 am : link
In comment 13557745 jcn56 said:
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I'd rather dump the other QBs on the roster and just go with him for both the cap and roster spot savings. If we're down to #2 QB we're basically screwed regardless, might as well see what we've got, get him some live fire, and save the other resources.


I agree that if Eli suffered a season-ending injury then it wouldn't make any difference who the backup QB was.

But there's a big problem with the, "if Eli's injured we're screwed anyway, so why not Webb?" take.

What if Eli's injury is NOT season ending? What if he missed just 1-3 games like half the QBs in the league do? Having Geno on the roster at least gives us a fighting chance in those games and that could be the difference between making or missing the playoffs.
Some of you guys badly need to use a little  
ZGiants98 : 8/12/2017 11:35 am : link
Context. Johnson was facing the Steelers starting defense. Geno was facing 2 and 3s. Webb was facing 4s and 5s... guys that will bagging groceries in a few weeks.

If Webb was put into the same situation Johnson was last night, BBI would be in full meltdown mode right now.
This thread is a great example of fans scouting  
Ron Johnson 30 : 8/12/2017 11:43 am : link
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Not a coach  
Thinblueline : 8/12/2017 12:28 pm : link
But my opinion after watching last night, Johnson needs to go... Webb should pick up the extra reps with him gone... I like what little bit we saw of him last night.. He moved in the pocket well and threw the ball with nice touch (unlike Nassib) . His release was high and fast and he showed a good command in the Offense.... Lets coach Webb up and get him more playing time....
RE: RE: Obviously very small sample size, and he came out a little jumpy  
jcn56 : 8/12/2017 12:33 pm : link
In comment 13557820 Jim in Tampa said:
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In comment 13557745 jcn56 said:


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I'd rather dump the other QBs on the roster and just go with him for both the cap and roster spot savings. If we're down to #2 QB we're basically screwed regardless, might as well see what we've got, get him some live fire, and save the other resources.



I agree that if Eli suffered a season-ending injury then it wouldn't make any difference who the backup QB was.

But there's a big problem with the, "if Eli's injured we're screwed anyway, so why not Webb?" take.

What if Eli's injury is NOT season ending? What if he missed just 1-3 games like half the QBs in the league do? Having Geno on the roster at least gives us a fighting chance in those games and that could be the difference between making or missing the playoffs.


I just don't see that fighting chance being materially different between Webb and Smith. One's a rookie, the other's a failed starter who never achieved much. If the unthinkable were to happen, whoever goes in would be primarily handing the ball off anyway.

To think otherwise would be to believe that Smith was a credible QB whose career was derailed by the Jets, which I don't agree with.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/12/2017 12:36 pm : link
He looks to be a better athlete than I expected.
RE: RE: Obviously very small sample size, and he came out a little jumpy  
PatersonPlank : 8/12/2017 12:42 pm : link
In comment 13557820 Jim in Tampa said:
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In comment 13557745 jcn56 said:


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I'd rather dump the other QBs on the roster and just go with him for both the cap and roster spot savings. If we're down to #2 QB we're basically screwed regardless, might as well see what we've got, get him some live fire, and save the other resources.



I agree that if Eli suffered a season-ending injury then it wouldn't make any difference who the backup QB was.

But there's a big problem with the, "if Eli's injured we're screwed anyway, so why not Webb?" take.

What if Eli's injury is NOT season ending? What if he missed just 1-3 games like half the QBs in the league do? Having Geno on the roster at least gives us a fighting chance in those games and that could be the difference between making or missing the playoffs.


Based on last night I do think Webb would give us a better chance than Geno. What has Geno ever done to show he could do anything? Just because he is a veteran doesn't mean he's any good.
Without question a solid NFL arm  
njm : 8/12/2017 2:49 pm : link
We'll have to see how he develops
Webb looks the part  
csh2z : 8/12/2017 3:25 pm : link
He has no less NFL experience than any other rookie QB. I think he would have just as good of a chance at success as Smith would. Smith's "NFL experience" was a bad one with the Jets and wouldn't be of any benefit to the Giants anyway. Cut both Josh & Geno, save the roster spot and pull one of them off the couch if needed.
Webb will benefit from a year holding a clip board  
skifaster : 8/12/2017 3:39 pm : link
I thought he did a good job going through progressions quickly and threw some good balls (other than the first one). Quick release and looked comfortable moving around in the pocket.

Looked like a possible successor to Eli in a couple of years rather than a placeholder.
After a few sharp completions  
mfsd : 8/12/2017 3:41 pm : link
The Steelers started blitzing Webb, and the 3rd string OL he was playing behind didn't do a good job handling it, which stopped Webb's momentum

But even then, he didn't get rattled and showed good ability to scramble out of trouble.

Definite signs he's got the makings of a real QB
Thought he looked  
TMS : 8/12/2017 4:19 pm : link
in control and deliberate out there. A thinking QB looking for a target and seeing the whole field. Similar to how the good ones get it done as drop backers. Good arm and instincts for the rush. Good start.
RE: Some of you guys badly need to use a little  
BigBlueShock : 8/12/2017 4:25 pm : link
In comment 13557873 ZGiants98 said:
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Context. Johnson was facing the Steelers starting defense. Geno was facing 2 and 3s. Webb was facing 4s and 5s... guys that will bagging groceries in a few weeks.

If Webb was put into the same situation Johnson was last night, BBI would be in full meltdown mode right now.

This is simply not true. Besides the fact that the Steelers did not suit up all of their starters, the problem with Johnson was he was insanely indecisive with the ball. There were a number of plays where he had time to make a play and simply held on to the ball. Replays showed on several of them WRs were running open and he simply missed them. In this offense, the objective is to get rid of the ball quickly and both Smith and Webb did a better job of that. Johnson was under pressure because he didn't get rid of the damn ball.
As fans what can we assertain  
Dave on the UWS : 8/12/2017 4:56 pm : link
about a QB when we watch them? Does he see the field? Does he go through his progressions? Does he command the huddle, command the offense so all players feed off him? Does he remain cool under fire, move within the pocket, keep his eyes downfield looking to make a play?
Johnson did NONE of these last night, in his short time Webb showed promise in ALL these areas. Let Geno be the #2, give Webb more reps.
He made a nice throw on the run  
bubba0825 : 8/12/2017 5:39 pm : link
And hit a wr in the hands who was double covered
RE: He made a nice throw on the run  
adamg : 8/12/2017 5:43 pm : link
In comment 13558259 bubba0825 said:
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And hit a wr in the hands who was double covered


That play was awesome. Marshall possibly makes that catch too. That would be fun to see.
RE: You can see the tools immediately  
annexOPR : 8/12/2017 5:45 pm : link
In comment 13557741 JonC said:
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No idea why he was a 3rd round pick as I've had no real time to dig into it, but looks like a promising pick.


i still have no idea why teams were overpaying for the early QBs while a talent like Webb fell into our laps in the 3rd. He has underrated mobility and a rocket arm.

I'm thinking he was viewed as the least NFL ready and got knocked for playing in Cal's offense ... from strictly a talent perspective, he's not far off from the QBs getting traded up for in the 1st. All of the tools were on display last night
RE: He made a nice throw on the run  
annexOPR : 8/12/2017 5:46 pm : link
In comment 13558259 bubba0825 said:
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And hit a wr in the hands who was double covered


that throw was a thing of beauty ... and exactly why i'm so high on him long term
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annexOPR : 8/12/2017 5:51 pm : link
an excellent read, and every Giants fan should be pulling for this kid. he's hard not to like - he seems to really "get it"
Webb debut - ( New Window )
I didn't see the portion of the game he played,  
Go Terps : 8/14/2017 12:32 pm : link
but the one throw I found on YouTube shows the same problems he had at Cal. Really poor mechanics.
Link - ( New Window )
RE: I didn't see the portion of the game he played,  
annexOPR : 8/14/2017 1:03 pm : link
In comment 13559841 Go Terps said:
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but the one throw I found on YouTube shows the same problems he had at Cal. Really poor mechanics. Link - ( New Window )


he already admitted he was "amped up" - which i could see happening when throwing your first pass in NFL action after limited practice reps
RE: RE: I didn't see the portion of the game he played,  
Go Terps : 8/14/2017 1:35 pm : link
In comment 13559914 annexOPR said:
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In comment 13559841 Go Terps said:


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but the one throw I found on YouTube shows the same problems he had at Cal. Really poor mechanics. Link - ( New Window )



he already admitted he was "amped up" - which i could see happening when throwing your first pass in NFL action after limited practice reps


That may be, but the same problems are there on that throw that were all over his college film.
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