Girardi is a much to blame for the situation the Yankees are in as the players who continue to put them there as well. When Tyler Clippard wwas single handedly torch their season go continued to force feed him down our throats. Now he's doing the same thing with Chapman when you have as many capable arms to close out these games. It's not April. It's August and September is right around the corner. The time has come to do what's best for the team to win as many games as possible and to hell with Chapman feelings.
You do realize he has an obp over 400 with 40 homers right? Fans are ridiculous sometimes. Oh you mean he isn't babe Ruth. Send him down!!!
He doesn't appear to get down on himself (or too up on success) so I'm not sure what sending him down will accomplish.
only a very small minority are even suggesting that.
I can see the case for "demoting" Chapman for a couple weeks and letting a combo of Robertson and Betances close. Let Chapman try to get his head and his mechanics together with some consistency
But Judge isn't going anywhere
I would not be upset if Judge went on the "DL" for 10 days with soreness and spent that time in Tampa working on his mechanics.
But its not going to happen. He is the top candidate for AL rookie of the year and a consideration for AL MVP.
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needs to go back to SWB until he stops swinging at FB over his shoulders and sliders 1 ft outside.
I would not be upset if Judge went on the "DL" for 10 days with soreness and spent that time in Tampa working on his mechanics.
But its not going to happen. He is the top candidate for AL rookie of the year and a consideration for AL MVP.
Also keep in mind that this is his first full year in MLB. MLB plays more games and at a much higher level than AAA.
Whatever, just another dick punch of a loss last night. I swear there have been 15 of these over the last 2 mths or so.
The Yanks aren't 20 games over 500 because this team isn't 20 games over 500 quality. It's as simple as that. Girardi isn't perfect but he's a good mgr. Fans always second guess the baseball mgr. It's old.
Terrible all year? WTF are some of you watching? Chapman is the closer. He hasn't been terrible all year evidenced by his numbers. He's been OK. Not great. Not bad, jst OK. He's the closer. If he falters the Yanks will lose games. If the starting pitching falters the Yanks will struggle. If the lineup can't hit for shit, the Yanks will struggle. No amount of fine tuning or over managing will save this team if they don't perform. Girardi can only motivate and push and manage so much.
If Girardi used another guy in the 9th last night only to see them lose this place would have gone fucking bananas. Stop with this crap.
As for Devers homerun he had nothing to lose and sat dead red. I think Chapman was so amped up he didn't think Devers had any chance to hit his fast ball after the way he looked on the first two pitches. And again, what would I have Joe do? Seriously think about who is pitching the best at the moment. Throw out that stupid fucking note book because how many more games is he going to torture himself and the Yankees fans by simply saying he's my closer.
His closer is slowly but surely draining games that may come back to haunt him in the end. Now is not the time to hope he works his way out of this funk. There aren't enough games left. Joe has plenty of weaponry in that bullpen to be pigheaded about who his closer is. It's getting late early and Joe needs to be more flexible. His stubbornness is hurting more then it is helping.
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Come on. That's ridiculous.
As is the suggestion that someone other than Chapman be trotted out as the closer. I can imagine the fantasy manager crowd going ballistic had someone else been used in the 9th and blew the save. Devers is a great hitter who will be torturing us Yankee fans for the next 15-20 years. The other guys get paid too.
Send Judge down? He needs to be moved down in the lineup to take some pressure off. He needs to adjust his stance (ala Stanton) so he's a little more closed and stops pulling off the ball.
Devers likely waves at slider there 1-2 but if he manages to hit it to the short porch, we're all screaming why didn't he go fastball again after blowing it by everybody up until that point.
The kid hit a 103(!) mph fastball up in the zone the other way to death valley for a HR. Can only tip your cap, that's something special.
I thought pitch calling was awful as well. Same thing with Kahnle in the 10th. 4 changes to Benetendi. Sanchez needs to mix it up more. Honestly this concerns me more than the passed balls.
The most ridiculous post in the history of message boards.
Well, he was warming up and obviously set to come in when it wasn't a save situation yet, but it was a save situation by the time he came in.
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needs to go back to SWB until he stops swinging at FB over his shoulders and sliders 1 ft outside.
The most ridiculous post in the history of message boards.
No only the most ridiculous Yankees post..I seen to remember someone posting that we should trade Eli for a second round pick and then draft Teddy Bridgewater.
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In his mind Joe has an inning for each pitcher. This way he never has to think or play a hunch. It is ridiculous. Chapman has been terrible all year. He is having trouble getting any swings and misses in AL. Chapman needs to pitch in non-save situations until he can work a SINGLE one two three inning. If that ever happens.
Terrible all year? WTF are some of you watching? Chapman is the closer. He hasn't been terrible all year evidenced by his numbers. He's been OK. Not great. Not bad, jst OK. He's the closer. If he falters the Yanks will lose games. If the starting pitching falters the Yanks will struggle. If the lineup can't hit for shit, the Yanks will struggle. No amount of fine tuning or over managing will save this team if they don't perform. Girardi can only motivate and push and manage so much.
If Girardi used another guy in the 9th last night only to see them lose this place would have gone fucking bananas. Stop with this crap.
After Friday night I would have had NO objections to Robertson closing last night out. I guess Friday night was a nice save for Chapman in your book. He has had far too many ineffective outings. You make it seem like there are no other options because Chapman is the "closer". There are other experienced relievers on this team I trust more than Chapman.
Say - wasn't Chapman the reliever that blew a three run lead in the seventh game of the WS ?? Yeah - he's awesome.
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because Robertson made that rookie look foolish with a breaking ball not sure why they didn't remember that. Chapman went with a high fastball IN the strike zone. The kid was set up to swing outside the strike zone there was not reason to throw him a hittable pitch on a 1-2 count.
I thought pitch calling was awful as well. Same thing with Kahnle in the 10th. 4 changes to Benetendi. Sanchez needs to mix it up more. Honestly this concerns me more than the passed balls.
are we sure Sanchez is calling the pitches? I see him looking to the dugout often. By the way, the kid hit a 103mph fastball, not 101. Chapman hasn't given up a hr to a lefty since 2011, the kid is special. But that doesn't excuse the fact that he looked absolutely foolish in his previous ab on the breaking pitch. I watched Sale pitch carefully to batters last night that couldn't touch his fastball if he threw it right down the middle. I don't care what kind of fastball you have you are still pitching to major leaguers. Someone needs to print that out in big letters and tape it to Chapman's locker.
He probably didn't think it mattered, he knew he had a good fastball. There's like 5-10 hitters in the game that would even have a prayer of hitting that ball out where he did.
Obviously he was wrong
Do people watch the games or just look at the boxscore? If a guy hits a HR - the only one this year off him, you tip your cap and move on, no matter how damaging the loss is.
THAT was my exact point. You might as well send Judge down if Chapman isn't closing. Same silly thought process.
I'm pretty sure if he went on gut feel, people would still complain after a loss.
The timing of these threads usually sucks balls anyways.
Last night, he worked the pen so they didn't give up a run and had a save attempt in the 9th. Was he not supposed to use Chapman there? What else was he supposed to do to mitigate the loss?
If you can't answer those questions, then criticizing him seems a bit moronic.
Do people watch the games or just look at the boxscore? If a guy hits a HR - the only one this year off him, you tip your cap and move on, no matter how damaging the loss is.
Do people watch the games or just look at the boxscore? If a guy hits a HR - the only one this year off him, you tip your cap and move on, no matter how damaging the loss is.
The HR only tied the score. Did you tip your hat again when he blew game in 10th by hitting a guy and walking a guy that swings at everything ?
You cannot have that from your closer. No one is perfect. The great Rivera had his mini slumps but at the moment Girardi is playing the same cards he played when Clippard was in his funk. Joe has options and time is fleeting. He has two maybe three bonifide closer types he can go to and has to start considering the possibilities because Chapman does not look like a confident pitcher.
My point is that Girardi handled the pen as well as one could expect - and it was only ruined by the HR. You can't really second guess having Chapman try to pitch the 10th, because I'm pretty sure if Kahnle comes in and gives the run up in the 10th, Joe would get bashed by playing it "by the book" as well.
Robertson blew a save before. Betances looked lost for a month. Kahnle gave up the hit last night after a walk.
Basically you're saying that Chapman has looked inconsistent and needs to be moved out of the closer role, but there's no guarantee the other guys would do better.
It's reactionary criticism due to the loss.
One can understand he's struggling without recommending a demotion.
Except for Friday night, Chapman has started to look like himself more since the All Star break. Yes Devers mashed a 103 mph pitch that should have been 4 inches higher and probably should have been a slider instead. This is the pen. These are the guys they have.
The bigger problem is scoring runs. Sanchez appears to have turned it around; Gardner is struggling a bit; Frazier is what they have this year; Judge is the biggest reason for lack of production. Perhaps Didi should go the #3 and Judge to #5.
Until they start hitting, every game will be hanging by a thread.
Judge just needs to slide down 2 slots. Joe will do it in another week. Just 2 weeks to late. Slow Joe as per usual.But in the end he is similar to most managers.