Sy and I had an interesting debate about whether Shane Smith will make the Giants roster as opposed to WIll Tye or Matt LaCosse, and talk about this in our training camp report today.
These three appear to be competing for the same roster spot to our eyes, which one do you think is going to make it.
LaCosse is going to give you some spectacular catches from time to time, and he gives special teams good effort.
We kinda know what we have with Tye. He's a steady if unspectacular player. He'll drop 1 out of five passes and struggles with coverage, he's not a big time special teams player, and he blocks but does not seem to relish contact.
Smith is a great blocker up the middle, has tons of power, he's been a fierce special teams player so far, has great hands, and he was given RB reps today and looked good as a RB.
Me personally, until Friday, last week, I didn't think so, but Smith is definitely making a case that he deserves to stay on the Giants roster, and to my way of seeing things I'd rather have him with his reliable hands on the ball than either Tye or LaCosse.
LaCosse is OK, but not at the expense of a FB. What does he bring that you don't already have in Ellison, Adams, and Engram?
Will Tye is no good at everything. He's a Coach Killer -- not much better than Donnell in that respect. He occasionally makes a catch, or two, but is terrible blocker. Everyone else in the TE room is already better or has way more potential.
If it's not special teams, then (God forbid) injuries play into it.
Tye is basically a zero on special teams. So he's out.
Tye is below LaCosse on the depth chart, IMO. Perhaps Tye can garner some trade value later on August.
Not a fan of a full time FB on a 53 man roster. Too limiting from a functional and role play perspective.
Smith.
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Yes, thanks
I think it's pretty clear. I would like them to find a way to keep 4 TE's and the FB, though. I actually like Tye a little better than most, I don't think he's terrible. And from all accounts Lacosse has had a very strong camp and continues to improve. Best case is we can trade one of them (likely Tye), for a 6th rounder.
Smith? Maybe he can block, but is this the guy that simply picked out the wrong guy to block on a fourth and 2 in the Steelers game?
It was was obvious whiff.
I also agree with this. Harris and Tavarres King to go with the big 3 at receiver, call it a day. At any point in the season, you can find a comparable player on waivers to Roger Lewis or Powe, possibly even Lewis or Powe themselves, and that would certainly be an emergency situation if we needed to do that.
LaCosse seems like a nice player but he's never stayed healthy.
Will Tye is nothing special. A mediocre player who is ok at everything and not good at anything. I've seen enough of that on this team in recent years.
While I would love to keep Lacosse (not so much Tye) what are we really getting from keeping a 4th TE? If you keep him, you need to get him on the field. Can you do that with Ellison, Engram and Adams ahead of him?
If you keep Smith he starts and is valuable via bringing us a dimension we did not have last year.
LaCosse appears to be the better receiving TE, but who knows blocking wise.
Smith appears to be a bulldozer. I think they need a FB. I would prefer Ellison on the line helping Hart or Flowers, while Smith blows up a LB.
Bingo!!!
That gives the talented rookie Davis Webb more snaps on the scout team and advances his development while providing a stronger roster.
Based on only one inconclusive pre-season game it appears that the rook, might be as good as Geno anyway. Johnson should be cut now thereby giving the rook more snaps and testing the idea that he's as good, or clowe to as good, as Geno.
He's lined up as FB, RB and WR - haven't seen him line up as TE
You don't want Fluker to start -- he is not the answer
Also frees up an extra spot somewhere else. Josh Johnson isn't winning us any games that Webb can't. Geno is ok but IMO it's a shot id take.
Lacosse can go to the PS still can't he?
I want a true fullback to knock the snot out of Sean Lee.
but i love the old style, punch you in the mouth fullback. we havent had that in a while. not to mention we need all the help we can get running the ball. ill take the FB
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and maybe start Fluker ...
You don't want Fluker to start -- he is not the answer
We'll keep Ellison, Engram, Adams and I'm guessing LaCosse though Tye is a legit guy for a lot of teams. A shame we can't trade Tye and say a #7 for a viable backup strong safety.
yes -- this is exactly it
Plenty of teams still employ a Fullback, including perennial powerhouses like the Patriots, Packers, and Steelers.
However, if you''re not going to use one, why would you keep one on your Practice Squad? That makes no sense.