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NFT: Mets Vs. Yankees Part 2: DeGrom vs. Gray

bigbluewreckingcrew25 : 8/15/2017 10:19 am
After a come from behind win for the Yankees, we have a great pitching matchup tonight.

I will be in attendance in my Doc Gooden METS jersey tonight to watch the DeGrom take the mound. This may be a bit hyperbolic, but tonight DeGrom takes the mound with all of Mets nation on his shoulders. This season has been a DISASTER. What was thought to be a World Series year has turned into a nightmare. What was thought to be a Mets town has gone quickly back to the Yankees. Tonight DeGrom can fill us Mets fans with a sense of pride in taking the mound and DEGROMINATING the Yankees from pitch 1. Enough of ALL RISE!...Enough of Gary Sanchize!..Enough of feeling like second class citizens. THIS IS OUR CITY TONIGHT!! LETSSSS GOOOO!!!!
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Sphincter is shrinking just a bit  
B in ALB : 8/15/2017 10:12 pm : link
Chapman is suckling the big white mint.
.  
arcarsenal : 8/15/2017 10:12 pm : link
I think the young'ns heard you say they weren't ready, RP. :)

Mets will still lose this game, but it's nice to get a little glimpse of the future
Chapman  
RasputinPrime : 8/15/2017 10:12 pm : link
starting to look like Kim.

He isn't that off but just missing locations like crazy.
RE: .  
RasputinPrime : 8/15/2017 10:12 pm : link
In comment 13561800 arcarsenal said:
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I think the young'ns heard you say they weren't ready, RP. :)

Mets will still lose this game, but it's nice to get a little glimpse of the future


Talent shines through ready or not ;-)
Didi!!!  
DennyInDenville : 8/15/2017 10:12 pm : link
BIG LEAGUE PLAY!
Fuckin Didi is great!  
mavric : 8/15/2017 10:13 pm : link
I can never understand the guys on this board who wants to get rid of him for Torres. That was one hell of a play and he showed off his bazooka arm
RE: Fuckin Didi is great!  
DennyInDenville : 8/15/2017 10:14 pm : link
In comment 13561804 mavric said:
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I can never understand the guys on this board who wants to get rid of him for Torres. That was one hell of a play and he showed off his bazooka arm

Most want Castro gone for Torres, but yes agreed
RE: Chapman is fucking lost  
Del Shofner : 8/15/2017 10:14 pm : link
In comment 13561794 DennyInDenville said:
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He needs 10 day "DL" mental health break , get him some Swedish shoulder rubs too


I said this the other day and basically got driven away. Isn't it obvious he is in a slump? He needs a break of some kind - bring him in situationally against lefties for a while. We have other relief pitchers.

Nice play by Didi though!
DIDI!!!!!  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/15/2017 10:15 pm : link
Now, that's SS.
Chapman is just dying to give this game away.  
bceagle05 : 8/15/2017 10:15 pm : link
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Ok Chappy aka the Missile.  
DennyInDenville : 8/15/2017 10:15 pm : link
You have another chance..

We still believe in you going forward. Just might not be your year.

Maddon went ham on that arm.
Whew  
mavric : 8/15/2017 10:16 pm : link
Another notch in the win column
And now he hurts himself covering first.  
bceagle05 : 8/15/2017 10:16 pm : link
What a brutal season for him.
OK good win - Chapman hurt himself there so  
Del Shofner : 8/15/2017 10:17 pm : link
maybe the DL is coming up one way or the other.
Chapman is hurt on final play  
micky : 8/15/2017 10:17 pm : link
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Chapman barely hangs on  
dpinzow : 8/15/2017 10:17 pm : link
might have injured himself covering 1st
RE: El  
B in ALB : 8/15/2017 10:17 pm : link
In comment 13561796 ZGiants98 said:
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Cheapo!


El Baghdad! Where you been Z?

Just crawling outta the woodwork when your team gets within one?

Huge win!  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/15/2017 10:17 pm : link
Chapman sucks donkey-ass this year. I feel like my 11 year old nephew could take him deep this year.

Always nice to protect home-field, though! Love this win.
Ooof looks like a knee  
DennyInDenville : 8/15/2017 10:17 pm : link
.

Robertson or Betances as new closer for now?

I say Robertson but I'm cool with Betances as well, his fielding just scared the fuck out of me. He improved it slightly this year but it's still horrific when it happens
Limping our way  
dune69 : 8/15/2017 10:18 pm : link
to another win. We'll take it!!
Chapman almost blows it  
RasputinPrime : 8/15/2017 10:18 pm : link
and may have hurt himself on that last pitch.

DL him for 10 days.

We will need him right to make a push in September.
I'm starting  
Photoguy : 8/15/2017 10:19 pm : link
to get the shakes when he comes in. Not his year, indeed. Got the win, though. I'll take it.
Nats beat the Nationals tonight, too  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/15/2017 10:19 pm : link
which is great since they are right behind us in the WC race. Thank you, Nats.
RE: Cheapo Sac Fly  
section125 : 8/15/2017 10:19 pm : link
In comment 13561784 section125 said:
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Almost Chapman proof now...


See I have a future in the psychic industry!


Think he twisted an ankle...
Might almost be a blessing  
mavric : 8/15/2017 10:19 pm : link
if Chapman has to spend 10 days on the DL. He could use the break to get his mental shit together and maybe let that arm get some rest and go over film to figure out why he's lost his accuracy
*Nats beat the ANGELS.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/15/2017 10:19 pm : link
Christ almighty.
I wonder if chapman  
mattnyg05 : 8/15/2017 10:19 pm : link
Going to DL is the best thing that could happen for the Yankees considering Girardi will absolutely not remove him from closer no matter what he does. He just looks completely worn out.
RE: Chapman almost blows it  
Del Shofner : 8/15/2017 10:20 pm : link
In comment 13561820 RasputinPrime said:
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and may have hurt himself on that last pitch.

DL him for 10 days.

We will need him right to make a push in September.


Yup. Not what I'd wish for, but I think Chapman to DL for 10 days is the best thing that could happen to him right now.
What you're most likely seeing with Chapman  
Greg from LI : 8/15/2017 10:20 pm : link
Is the aftereffects of being ridden extremely hard by the Cubs last year.
RE: Chapman almost blows it  
Jim in Tampa : 8/15/2017 10:21 pm : link
In comment 13561820 RasputinPrime said:
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and may have hurt himself on that last pitch.

DL him for 10 days.

We will need him right to make a push in September.


You're suggesting that the Yanks DL Chapman, when you have no idea if he's even injured. Awesome!
I'd be okay with Chappy taking a trip to the DL.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/15/2017 10:21 pm : link
He's been struggling pretty much all season.
RE: RE: Fuckin Didi is great!  
section125 : 8/15/2017 10:22 pm : link
In comment 13561805 DennyInDenville said:
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In comment 13561804 mavric said:


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I can never understand the guys on this board who wants to get rid of him for Torres. That was one hell of a play and he showed off his bazooka arm


Most want Castro gone for Torres, but yes agreed


Getting rid of Castro is mind blowingly stupid. To good of a bat and a pretty good clutch batter.
RE: What you're most likely seeing with Chapman  
Del Shofner : 8/15/2017 10:23 pm : link
In comment 13561828 Greg from LI said:
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Is the aftereffects of being ridden extremely hard by the Cubs last year.


Agree completely. So give him a break now - the bullpen is deep. We will need him in September and October.
It's amazing but out of  
mattnyg05 : 8/15/2017 10:23 pm : link
Green, Warren, Robertson, betances, kahnle... id be comfortable with ANY of them closing a game on a given night. The bullpen is a tremendous luxury and right now it's almost being erased because we're keeping a guy in a set role who has been quite shitty in his last three appearances. He's just not right now and it's a shame to blow games or almost blow games because of it.
RE: What you're most likely seeing with Chapman  
DennyInDenville : 8/15/2017 10:23 pm : link
In comment 13561828 Greg from LI said:
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Is the aftereffects of being ridden extremely hard by the Cubs last year.

I agree.

But all the sudden guys like Luis Cessa are throwing a 100. 103 isn't as scary. But I definitely have FULL faith what you said is correct and next season he will rebound very nicely.

Funny thing about Chapman, the cubs obviously rode him. In the WS he threw a million sliders and ground threw it since his FB command was lost and also his delivery isn't as SMOOTH as it WAS.

He's minor tweaks mentally and physically. Not worried long term (5 year deal) he will be okay.
RE: RE: Chapman almost blows it  
RasputinPrime : 8/15/2017 10:24 pm : link
In comment 13561829 Jim in Tampa said:
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In comment 13561820 RasputinPrime said:


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and may have hurt himself on that last pitch.

DL him for 10 days.

We will need him right to make a push in September.



You're suggesting that the Yanks DL Chapman, when you have no idea if he's even injured. Awesome!


"DL"

And yes, I know what i'm talking about.
RE: What you're most likely seeing with Chapman  
arcarsenal : 8/15/2017 10:24 pm : link
In comment 13561828 Greg from LI said:
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Is the aftereffects of being ridden extremely hard by the Cubs last year.


I said it during the postseason last year - Maddon knew Chapman wasn't coming back so he didn't give a shit whether he wrecked him or not.

I don't think he's totally shot but I do think there's some carryover from the way he was used last October.
RE: What you're most likely seeing with Chapman  
section125 : 8/15/2017 10:25 pm : link
In comment 13561828 Greg from LI said:
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Is the aftereffects of being ridden extremely hard by the Cubs last year.


I agree. Maddon knew he wasn't coming back and went for all the marbles riding roughshod over everyone.

Split the close between Betances and Robertson.

Or as Joe would do -
Kahnle 7th
Robertson 8th
Betances 9th
Chapman looks absolutely like a mess  
DennyInDenville : 8/15/2017 10:52 pm : link
He even said he's open to not closing if asked

His confidence and mind are shot. Maybe his body too.

Maybe personal life who knows.

Maybe wise to shut him down a month or more and see how he's doing. It wouldn't be the worst thing if we save him for next season and protect our investment with this crazy BP depth.

But If Chappy wants to be the left specialist (never ever gonna happen this year, Cashman will not allow it) he would actually fit that role perfectly for us. Then we get option shreeve or something
RE: RE: El  
ZGiants98 : 8/15/2017 10:59 pm : link
In comment 13561815 B in ALB said:
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In comment 13561796 ZGiants98 said:


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Cheapo!



El Baghdad! Where you been Z?

Just crawling outta the woodwork when your team gets within one?


Huh? I was making fun of myself. Why would I crawl out of the woodwork when we came within one? You think I'm rooting or expecting wins or something? Better check the thread before the game started. You thugs are something else though. Never disappoint.
still -4.5 in the division but  
Del Shofner : 8/15/2017 11:23 pm : link
+3.0 for the WC.

Stuck in the middle with you!
Chappy will likely be on the DL  
xman : 8/16/2017 12:53 am : link
which will keep Joe from running him out there disaster after disaster until he straightens out. There are a lot of options to pick from so Yanks are lucky. I'd like to see Chad Greene get the closer shot. He throws strikes. But Betances and Robertson got it covered

Maybe when Castro and Bird are ready we can retire the Headley Frazier fiasco. Torreyes or Castro can play 2nd or 3rd.

Gardners ice cold.

Why isn't Severino opening against the Bosox instead of pitching against the Mets
RE: Chappy will likely be on the DL  
Stu11 : 8/16/2017 2:38 am : link
In comment 13561872 xman said:
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Maybe when Castro and Bird are ready we can retire the Headley Frazier fiasco. Torreyes or Castro can play 2nd or 3rd.

Gardners ice cold.

Why isn't Severino opening against the Bosox instead of pitching against the Mets

Frazier is starting at 3B from here on out unless he just craters out. His D is excellent and he will hit a bit. The reason Sevi is starting Thursday is because they have no other option besides calling a guy up from the minors. Sabathia can't come off the DL till the weekend and he's pitching Saturday.
oh and I should give credit where credit is due  
Stu11 : 8/16/2017 9:50 am : link
have dogged the situational hitting for the Yanks, but the last week they have been much better at getting that run in from 3rd with less than 2 outs.
Only the Yanks...  
Dunedin81 : 8/16/2017 10:19 am : link
could make Bauer, Sanchez and the ghost of Jordan Zimmerman look dynamic and then put up four runs against a legit Cy Young candidate in DeGrom.
Dune, 2 words...  
Keith : 8/16/2017 10:20 am : link
Aaron Hicks.
RE: RE: RE: El  
B in ALB : 8/16/2017 10:29 am : link
In comment 13561851 ZGiants98 said:
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In comment 13561796 ZGiants98 said:


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Cheapo!



El Baghdad! Where you been Z?

Just crawling outta the woodwork when your team gets within one?




Huh? I was making fun of myself. Why would I crawl out of the woodwork when we came within one? You think I'm rooting or expecting wins or something? Better check the thread before the game started. You thugs are something else though. Never disappoint.


I know Baghdad, it's just a bit of friendly banter.

Thugs? How dare you sir!
RE: Dune, 2 words...  
Dunedin81 : 8/16/2017 10:38 am : link
In comment 13562041 Keith said:
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Aaron Hicks.


Absolutely. Also Gary Sanchez is really starting to hit and Judge's ABs are getting noticeably better. But at this time last year, if someone told you Aaron Hicks would be counted on as the offensive savior, you'd assume that person was crazy or that NYY was a last place team.
No doubt.  
Keith : 8/16/2017 10:41 am : link
It's not smoke and mirrors with Hicks either, he's the real deal. He has all the tools and I think he can be counted on as one of the core youth guys moving forward. It's crazy how bright the future is.
RE: No doubt.  
mavric : 8/16/2017 11:00 am : link
In comment 13562073 Keith said:
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It's not smoke and mirrors with Hicks either, he's the real deal. He has all the tools and I think he can be counted on as one of the core youth guys moving forward. It's crazy how bright the future is.


I'm a believer!

I was at the game Sunday night and watched him stretch out, going away, to snag a ball out of the air that from perspective, was impossible to catch. He made two incredible catches that night. And don't forget, when he threw a ball into the catcher from the outfield last year, his ball was clocked at 115 MPH, the fastest ball thrown ever recorded.

So we know he's a great outfielder with an incredible arm. Now add that he's a switch hitter and is starting to show fans that he can hit and flashes future power. As he matures, he is going to be (IMHO) a .300/35 HR type guy who will also swipe a few bases and stop a lot of guys from taking an extra base as everyone starts to fear his arm.

He's finally looking comfortable out there and it shows. He will start getting a lot of attention in the next couple years. Probably good that he's flying under the radar while everyone is fixated on Judge and Sanchez.
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