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NFT: Mets Vs. Yankees Part 2: DeGrom vs. Gray

bigbluewreckingcrew25 : 8/15/2017 10:19 am
After a come from behind win for the Yankees, we have a great pitching matchup tonight.

I will be in attendance in my Doc Gooden METS jersey tonight to watch the DeGrom take the mound. This may be a bit hyperbolic, but tonight DeGrom takes the mound with all of Mets nation on his shoulders. This season has been a DISASTER. What was thought to be a World Series year has turned into a nightmare. What was thought to be a Mets town has gone quickly back to the Yankees. Tonight DeGrom can fill us Mets fans with a sense of pride in taking the mound and DEGROMINATING the Yankees from pitch 1. Enough of ALL RISE!...Enough of Gary Sanchize!..Enough of feeling like second class citizens. THIS IS OUR CITY TONIGHT!! LETSSSS GOOOO!!!!
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Lol  
Keith : 8/15/2017 10:20 am : link
Yikes.
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arcarsenal : 8/15/2017 10:22 am : link
Embarrassing.
Love the passion.  
Heisenberg : 8/15/2017 10:25 am : link
Must be because I'm from CT that I never got into the Mets/Yanks rivalry.

The Yanks have done a terrible job scoring runs for Gray, so maybe you'll get your DeGromination.
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bceagle05 : 8/15/2017 10:26 am : link
Always fun to beat  
Metnut : 8/15/2017 10:27 am : link
the Yankees but more important how guys like Conforto, DeGrom, Rosario, Smith, Cespedes, Flores, TDA, etc., all look. If some of the NYM bullpen scrubs blow it again, not really a big deal deal.
Could be wrong  
Shecky : 8/15/2017 10:31 am : link
But think Familia throws this afternoon.
53  
DanMetroMan : 8/15/2017 10:35 am : link
wins, 5th overall pick has 52. Deal Grandy, play Nimmo. Mets could pick as high as 5th overall in what could be a fantastic draft.
Wonder what happenes if it;s a rainout  
njm : 8/15/2017 10:36 am : link
Day game on Wednesday at the stadium with a night game in Queens?
The mets  
gmenatlarge : 8/15/2017 10:54 am : link
are on a downhill slide with the wilponzi selloff which is netting nothing in return but payroll savings. The only upside is payroll coming off for next year but that would require signing free agents. Doubtful that happens, also not a particularly good free agent year. A DeGrom win is not going to make me all warm and fuzzy, some hope for next year would...
Gray needs to get his first win as a Yankee  
superspynyg : 8/15/2017 11:03 am : link
How about some MOTHER FUCKING run support for him!!!! COME ON!!!!!!
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Danny Kanell : 8/15/2017 12:45 pm : link
DeGrominating?  
adamg : 8/15/2017 12:52 pm : link
That's pretty embarrassing right there  
B in ALB : 8/15/2017 12:55 pm : link
But wait, I thought it was already a Mets city? What happened to that?
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chopperhatch : 8/15/2017 12:58 pm : link
In comment 13560848 bceagle05 said:
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LMFAO
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chopperhatch : 8/15/2017 1:00 pm : link
In comment 13560839 arcarsenal said:
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Embarrassing.


I enjoyed this one too.

How's this game thread working out for you bigbluewreckingcrew?
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arcarsenal : 8/15/2017 1:05 pm : link
In comment 13561129 Danny Kanell said:
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LOL, this is definitely what this dude looks like.
I thought this guy,  
pjcas18 : 8/15/2017 1:07 pm : link
the OP, was a Yankees fan based on last nights thread start.

He's a Mets fan?

Piranah?  
Bill2 : 8/15/2017 1:09 pm : link
Is that you?
sorry  
Bill2 : 8/15/2017 1:10 pm : link
Piranha?

Is that really you?
lol  
illmatic : 8/15/2017 1:11 pm : link
In other MLB news/rumors ....  
Beer Man : 8/15/2017 1:26 pm : link
1. G. Stanton has cleared waivers; four unnamed teams are believed to have inquired about him

2. The Astros are in trade talks with the Tigers discussing a deal that will bring Verlander to Houston
You are a Met fan ?  
averagejoe : 8/15/2017 1:31 pm : link
You should be able to handle a losing season by now. Calm down. I don't want you to hurt yourself when degrom gets shelled tonight....
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mfsd : 8/15/2017 1:32 pm : link
In comment 13560848 bceagle05 said:
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Hahahahaha...bceagle05 just won the internet
Holy  
ZGiants98 : 8/15/2017 1:34 pm : link
Shit....
I'm sorry but the Mets are just outmanned  
ZGiants98 : 8/15/2017 1:35 pm : link
right now. We sold. DeGrom can be awesome... we just don't have the fire power. With Duda, Bruce, Walker, Thor, and Familia this could have been a very different series.
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chopperhatch : 8/15/2017 1:43 pm : link
In comment 13561218 mfsd said:
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Hahahahaha...bceagle05 just won the internet


It was really perfect
Not to be picky, but...  
Matt M. : 8/15/2017 2:23 pm : link
isn't it deGrom (lowercase d)?
RE: Not to be picky, but...  
PhiPsi125 : 8/15/2017 2:27 pm : link
In comment 13561283 Matt M. said:
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isn't it deGrom (lowercase d)?


True, but if we are really being picky...it's actually an upside down, backwards uppercase P.
At least, that's how they do it on his uniform  
PhiPsi125 : 8/15/2017 2:30 pm : link
:-)
RE: Not to be picky, but...  
chopperhatch : 8/15/2017 2:38 pm : link
In comment 13561283 Matt M. said:
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isn't it deGrom (lowercase d)?


I guess I selfed myself.
tank for a better pick in the draft  
spike : 8/15/2017 3:18 pm : link
so we dont have to pick another utility IF
RE: tank for a better pick in the draft  
ZGiants98 : 8/15/2017 3:24 pm : link
In comment 13561349 spike said:
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so we dont have to pick another utility IF


Who did we ever pick with our top pick that turned out to be a utility IF?
The problem with tanking  
Metnut : 8/15/2017 3:30 pm : link
for a better pick means that it's unlikely that Degrom, Matz, Harvey, Familia, Conforto, Rosario, Cespedes, Smith, Flores (i.e., guys we are counting for in 2018) finished the season strong if we had bad enough of a record to be in the top 5.
Yea, in a vacuum  
Metnut : 8/15/2017 3:31 pm : link
of course we'd want to get the best pick possible since these games are meaningless due to 2017 being over, but I'm not really comfortable with rooting for guys to fail to get that pick.

RE: RE: tank for a better pick in the draft  
spike : 8/15/2017 3:36 pm : link
In comment 13561359 ZGiants98 said:
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so we dont have to pick another utility IF



Who did we ever pick with our top pick that turned out to be a utility IF?


Cecchini is, if we are lucky. Nimmo is looking like a backup OF.
Mets  
DanMetroMan : 8/15/2017 3:38 pm : link
sign Travis Snider to a minor league deal (Grandy replacement?) and someone named Neil Wagner who is turning 34... lol
Trade with the Rangers  
spike : 8/15/2017 3:55 pm : link
In comment 13561377 DanMetroMan said:
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sign Travis Snider to a minor league deal (Grandy replacement?) and someone named Neil Wagner who is turning 34... lol


We need some talent infusion in LV

"The Rangers traded Snider to the Mets on Tuesday for cash considerations, Marc Carig of Newsday reports.
A former top prospect, Snider hasn't reached the big leagues since 2015, when he appeared in 87 games with the Pirates and Orioles. Despite the organizational change, Snider doesn't appear particularly close to earning another look in the majors, even though he's slashed a respectable .294/.375/.435 in the Pacific Coast League this season."
Neil Walker trade  
spike : 8/15/2017 3:56 pm : link
Milwaukee took on $3MM of Walker’s salary, per an Associated Press report (via USA Today). New York sent just under $1.7MM in the deal to cover the rest of the obligation.
MLB Trade rumors - ( New Window )
RE: Trade with the Rangers  
DanMetroMan : 8/15/2017 4:06 pm : link
In comment 13561396 spike said:
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In comment 13561377 DanMetroMan said:


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sign Travis Snider to a minor league deal (Grandy replacement?) and someone named Neil Wagner who is turning 34... lol



We need some talent infusion in LV

"The Rangers traded Snider to the Mets on Tuesday for cash considerations, Marc Carig of Newsday reports.
A former top prospect, Snider hasn't reached the big leagues since 2015, when he appeared in 87 games with the Pirates and Orioles. Despite the organizational change, Snider doesn't appear particularly close to earning another look in the majors, even though he's slashed a respectable .294/.375/.435 in the Pacific Coast League this season."


LV season is over. They have had an absolutely awful season despite Rosario/Nimmo/Smith. They don't "need" anything but their season to end.
46-76  
DanMetroMan : 8/15/2017 4:06 pm : link
record lol
RE: That's pretty embarrassing right there  
Go Terps : 8/15/2017 4:11 pm : link
In comment 13561143 B in ALB said:
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But wait, I thought it was already a Mets city? What happened to that?


Syndegaard is a moron, and the Thor persona is stupid. And I'm a Mets fan.
I hate whenever the "Who owns the city" talk comes up in baseball or  
Gmen1982 : 8/15/2017 4:35 pm : link
football. Inferiority complexes. I don't think the Mets could ever be the majority favorite in the city unless Yankee fans really aren't true fans. I'm guessing that's how they would judge that?

RE: I hate whenever the  
section125 : 8/15/2017 4:53 pm : link
In comment 13561448 Gmen1982 said:
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football. Inferiority complexes. I don't think the Mets could ever be the majority favorite in the city unless Yankee fans really aren't true fans. I'm guessing that's how they would judge that?


Oddly it was a National League city previously. Of course it was when the Dodgers and Giants were New York teams. Many of those fans switched to the Mets and I would presume their families maintained the National League allegiance.
Of course being a lifelong Yankees fan, as was my family since the 30's, it is hard for me to believe New York is not a Yankees town.
RE: I hate whenever the  
arcarsenal : 8/15/2017 5:38 pm : link
In comment 13561448 Gmen1982 said:
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football. Inferiority complexes. I don't think the Mets could ever be the majority favorite in the city unless Yankee fans really aren't true fans. I'm guessing that's how they would judge that?


People always flock to the team that is winning. There was a ton of buzz around the Mets 2 years ago when they went on their WS run.

It's just how fans are. A lot of people suddenly wake up when a team is winning and tune out when they aren't.

I do think when fans get all riled up about who "owns" the city or any of that, a lot of it is just projecting inferiority/superiority complexes and tends to tell you a bit about that person (I'm not a real psychologist, I just play one on BBI... )

I was in the car the other day and some Yankee fan called WFAN and all he wanted to do was talk about how they're better than the Mets again and how happy he is that Mets fans have nothing to crow about now, etc. etc. It's not unique to Yankee fans, idiot Mets fans were calling in 2 years ago and claiming ownership of the city and saying the Mets were going to be the toast of the town for the next 10 years, etc. which is just as stupid.

I don't know why anyone cares about the other NY team aside from when they're playing each other.

I don't root against the Yankees when they're in the postseason. If they win, good for them. The teams aren't rivals unless you're interested in dick-measuring contests and need something to feel good about in life.
Gray vs. DeGrom should be good.  
RasputinPrime : 8/15/2017 5:52 pm : link

1. Curtis Granderson (L) RF .227/.332/.473, 1.7 fWAR
2. Asdrubal Cabrera (S) 2B .262/.332/.399, -0.3 fWAR
3. Yoenis Cespedes (R) LF .276/.326/.521, 1.0 fWAR
4. Michael Conforto (L) DH .282/.388/.570, 3.4 fWAR
5. Wilmer Flores (R) 3B .284/.318/.496, 1.0 fWAR
6. Dominic Smith (L) 1B .214/.214/.214, -0.1 fWAR
7. Amed Rosario (R) SS .256/.273/.442, 0.1 fWAR
8. Travis d’Arnaud (R) CA .231/.281/.409, 0.4 fWAR
9. Juan Lagares (R) CF .268/.314/.402, 0.8 fWAR

Jacob deGrom (R): (144.2 IP, 3.36 ERA, 3.8 RA9 WAR)
vs.
Sonny Gray (R): (6 IP, 3.00 ERA, 1.4 RA9 WAR)

1. Brett Gardner (L) DH .251/.345/.434, 2.3 fWAR
2. Aaron Hicks (S) LF .284/.389/.518, 2.9 fWAR
3. Aaron Judge (R) RF .289/.420/.608, 6.0 fWAR
4. Didi Gregorius (L) SS .306/.332/.501, 3.5 fWAR
5. Gary Sanchez (R) CA .273/.350/.511, 2.7 fWAR
6. Chase Headley (S) 1B .270/.349/.398, 1.6 fWAR
7. Jacoby Ellsbury (L) CF .239/.317/.361, 0.5 fWAR
8. Todd Frazier (R) 3B .231/.351/.359, 1.3 fWAR
9. Ronald Torreyes (R) 2B .285/.307/.365, 0.5 fWAR
Team Total: 21.3 fWAR
Can't wait for the Birdman  
adamg : 8/15/2017 6:41 pm : link
Move Headley back to third and move Frazier to a glove/PH role.

Wouldn't mind a Bird/Cooper platoon with either guy taking DH duties either.

And when Castro comes back too...
Gsellman activated  
ZGiants98 : 8/15/2017 6:46 pm : link
Lugo to DL. lol.
RE: RE: I hate whenever the  
section125 : 8/15/2017 7:10 pm : link
In comment 13561528 arcarsenal said:
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I don't know why anyone cares about the other NY team aside from when they're playing each other.

I don't root against the Yankees when they're in the postseason. If they win, good for them. The teams aren't rivals unless you're interested in dick-measuring contests and need something to feel good about in life.


I'm with you. I don't denigrate the Mets and I hope they do well, just not against the Yanks.
Do the Giants even own NYC right now?  
spike : 8/15/2017 7:11 pm : link
I'm not even sure!
BTW, my MLB feed of PIX  
section125 : 8/15/2017 7:11 pm : link
doesn't have commentary. It has field sounds but no announcers.

Anybody else?
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