Patricia Traina @Patricia_Traina · 7m .
Won't matter if the OL can't run block, right?
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@bigblueview x @Patricia_Traina - your thoughts on @JeremyHill33 to the Giants? https://t.co/44XwvVM6D8
GiantsBlueBlooded @RealTlkFB · 3m .
I just saw something that mentioned Jeremy Hill + #Giants. It's like they don't have a RB that has a 4 YPC avg last 2 years... #FreeDarkwa.
I could see why they might entertain trading Hill. But if the Giants were looking for that, they should have just signed Blount
I don't think there is anything behind this except twitter confusion.
Giants shouldn't give up much though if it's even serious, but I'd be interested if he could be acquired cheaply.
As a matter of fact, here is a report from a couple years ago when the Giants met the Bengals in the preseason
http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Odell-Beckham-Jr-reunites-with-LSU-teammate-Jeremy-Hill/6bdb6f5d-32fd-4603-acd3-ffccbefdaae2 - ( New Window )
Cuz you know, we have a stable of all-stars at the position.
Really though, this would seem like a very *un-Giant-like" move.
yes please - ( New Window )
Hard pass.
Gallman isn't making it through to PS. He was a highly productive player at Clemson and was just a 4th round pick.
That being said, if we put another LSU boy in the locker room, the dancing videos are likely to spiral wildly out of control...and i'm definitely good with that.
So, is it possible? Yeah.
However, I don't see how he really improves this team because the OL needs to get their shit together. Perkins is a great complement to this OL because of his vision and quick feet. Hill can do a lot of things such as run the ball, catch the ball, block some, but he isn't the most swift RB we have. That could lead to problems with this OL.
We aren't talking about a top flight back or a guy who has been really impressive be set back because of injury or other issues - we are talking about a mediocre back who statistically speaking was one of the worst starters in the league last year. eerily similar to Jennings in stats.
Gallman is NOT a power RB, he's not all the different from Perkins, and Darkwa makes a few great runs then disappears before and after missing games due to injury.
I don't know if a quality power RB will do a great deal better with lousy OL play, but I can promise he won't do any worse. Though I don't know if it's Hill.
Who would Hill think is the best lineman. In his opinion?
1. Perkins isn't going anywhere
2. Gallman was just drafted
3. Darkwa has received praise this week
4. The team always seems to have plans for Vereen
I doubt they carry 5 backs, I assume Abdullah and Draughn are cut
Hill has only been a starter for two years with middling stats.
Calling him proven is a stretch, and probably isn't an upgrade from most of the RB's we have - and we'd have to actually give something up to not upgrade the position.
Not sure how that can be seen as a good idea by anyone (except the Bengals)
Hard pass.
Yup. A whole .1ypc behind the amazing Blount (whom I did not want). Oddly, in Hill's rookie year, 2014, he had 222 carries and a very respectable 5.1ypc. Then with equal # of carries he fell off to a 3.6 and 3.8 ypc.
What the heck happened in Cincy?
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had the worst YPC average in the league last year of any starter.
Hard pass.
Yup. A whole .1ypc behind the amazing Blount (whom I did not want). Oddly, in Hill's rookie year, 2014, he had 222 carries and a very respectable 5.1ypc. Then with equal # of carries he fell off to a 3.6 and 3.8 ypc.
What the heck happened in Cincy?
Tyler Eifert was battling injuries and they lost depth at WR in Free Agency. Teams were essentially doubling Green and stacking the box and daring Andy Dalton to beat them by throwing to Brandon Lafell or C.J. Uzomah
The Giants do need to upgrade the ground game and Hill is the power running back that would complement Perkins, Vereen and co nicely. This in turn would add experience to an otherwise pretty young backfield and create different match-up problems for teams to defend.
From a Bengals point of view, it makes some sense, they still would have Gio Bernard and Mixon, so there may have been limited carried available for Hill in their backfield in any case. Hill is also in the last year of his rookie contract.
Thw question is, what would we have to give up to get him? I would guess it would be something in the ballpark of a 5th round pick (similar to what we gave up in 2012 to bring in Keith Rivers from the Bengals). This seems like the kind of trade Reese could go for, particularly as we may be eligible for a comp pick for Hankins. Cap wise we would have Hill on a 1 year $881,855 deal.
The other factor will be our RB depth chart. At best we will keep 4 RBs. Perkins and Gallman are locks if healthy. Shane Vereen probably has a firm grip on a roster spot with his 3rd down ability. That means bringing in Jeremy Hill would almost certainly mean cutting ties with Orleans Darkwa.
It really depends on how the front office view Darkwa. It is worth noting that the front office chose not to give Darkwa a RFA tender and instead he is on 1 year, $1.1m deal (which has a hefty $337,500 roster bonus).
There is enough substance that this is the kind of trade that could realistically happen. How likely it is or whether it should happen remains to be seen.
This is the Greenbay Packers offense. The running game is basically an afterthought, and frankly, if they had a good skill player at tight end during any of the past three years, nobody would be stressing over how bad the numbers are in the running game. If they can't get more than three yards a carry, it's not because they don't have Jeremy Hill instead of Paul Perkins.
What coach? Hes had the same coach and position coaches since he's been in the league
If Darkwa was cut today, would any team pick him up? I doubt it
This is the Greenbay Packers offense. The running game is basically an afterthought, and frankly, if they had a good skill player at tight end during any of the past three years, nobody would be stressing over how bad the numbers are in the running game. If they can't get more than three yards a carry, it's not because they don't have Jeremy Hill instead of Paul Perkins.
I think the intent would be to add the physical element to the running game, much like what Eddie Lacy brought to the Packers offence.
The basic plan, spread them out with Beckham, Marshall, Shepard and Engram forcing teams into sub packages with smaller defenders which creates a favourable matchup with a power running game inside against smaller defenders.
I think that is what McAdoo and co ideally would like to have.
because a trade would mean another teams wants Owa
or a pulling guard...
Reese has said that any time you have the chance to help your team you do it, so maybe there is a chance of getting Jeremy Hill...