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NFT: Yankees (63-55) @ Mets (53-64) GM 3

RasputinPrime : 8/16/2017 5:56 pm
1. Jacoby Ellsbury (L) CF .240/.316/.372, 0.5 fWAR
2. Aaron Hicks (S) LF .283/.387/.513, 2.8 fWAR
3. Aaron Judge (R) RF .290/.421/.609, 6.1 fWAR
4. Didi Gregorius (L) SS .308/.333/.501, 3.5 fWAR
5. Gary Sanchez (R) CA .277/.352/.522, 2.9 fWAR
6. Chase Headley (S) 3B .270/.350/.397, 1.6 fWAR
7. Garrett Cooper (R) 1B .359/.366/.538, 0.3 fWAR
8. Ronald Torreyes (R) 2B .290/.311/.373, 0.6 fWAR
9. Jaime Garcia (L) P , 0.2 fWAR

Jaime Garcia (L): (10.1 IP, 6.97 ERA)
vs.
Robert Gsellman (R): (97 IP, 2.41 ERA)

1. Jose Reyes (S) 2B .223/.286/.375, 0.0 fWAR
2. Michael Conforto (L) RF .282/.389/.568, 3.5 fWAR
3. Yoenis Cespedes (R) LF .280/.332/.523, 1.1 fWAR
4. Wilmer Flores (R) 3B .281/.317/.491, 1.0 fWAR
5. Travis dArnaud (R) CA .228/.277/.402, 0.3 fWAR
6. Amed Rosario (R) SS .255/.271/.489, 0.1 fWAR
7. Dominic Smith (L) 1B .235/.235/.412, -0.1 fWAR
8. Juan Lagares (R) CF .267/.312/.396, 0.8 fWAR
9. Robert Gsellman (R) P .130/.222/.130, 0.1 fWAR
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Sanchez looking good out there.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/16/2017 9:03 pm : link
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RE: Sanchez looking good out there.  
adamg : 8/16/2017 9:03 pm : link
In comment 13562695 Dave in Hoboken said:
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In the last week he looks like 2016 Sanchez. This is amazing stuff.
I like garcia, but Geezus  
section125 : 8/16/2017 9:04 pm : link
throw strikes.
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arcarsenal : 8/16/2017 9:05 pm : link
I love Cespedes, I really do - but he's one of the most confusing athletes ever. The guy is built like a fucking truck and is in tremendous shape and it looks like he's about to get hurt every time he does anything.

Hard swing/whiff, busting down the line, diving for a ball in the OF.. it's like there's a 70/30 chance he's coming up lame if he does any of those 3 things. I don't understand it.
RE: I like garcia, but Geezus  
mitch300 : 8/16/2017 9:12 pm : link
In comment 13562698 section125 said:
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throw strikes.

I'm not impressed. I thought I read when the Yanks got him is that he gives you length. Not seeing it. I rather Cessa pitching than this guy. I can't believe they originally sent down Montgomery for him.
giving an out for bunting  
micky : 8/16/2017 9:14 pm : link
not good
TOEEEE  
adamg : 8/16/2017 9:14 pm : link
The jockey gets on!
Hate watching Judge watch pitches right down the fucking middle  
adamg : 8/16/2017 9:25 pm : link
That 0-1 pitch should be in the third deck again.
Didi  
UConn4523 : 8/16/2017 9:26 pm : link
!!!
DIDI!!!  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/16/2017 9:26 pm : link
Love that guy.
Didi!  
Del Shofner : 8/16/2017 9:26 pm : link
Nice shot down the line for 2.
2 run double Didi!  
dpinzow : 8/16/2017 9:26 pm : link
After Judge popped straight up. Very clutch hit for Didi
RE: RE: I like garcia, but Geezus  
section125 : 8/16/2017 9:27 pm : link
In comment 13562701 mitch300 said:
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throw strikes.


I'm not impressed. I thought I read when the Yanks got him is that he gives you length. Not seeing it. I rather Cessa pitching than this guy. I can't believe they originally sent down Montgomery for him.


Cessa barely gets thru 4, now.
Weaksauce from Judge  
NYerInMA : 8/16/2017 9:28 pm : link
But Sir Didi comes through.
RE: Hate watching Judge watch pitches right down the fucking middle  
section125 : 8/16/2017 9:29 pm : link
In comment 13562714 adamg said:
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That 0-1 pitch should be in the third deck again.


Yep..

And Gary did the same thing, Meatball down the middle.
Didi is clutch  
adamg : 8/16/2017 9:35 pm : link
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Didi Gregorius with bases loaded as a Yankee:
.385 BA (15-39)
40 RBI
I still don't get the midset  
section125 : 8/16/2017 9:38 pm : link
when pitching. Get up 0-2 with FBs then throw 3 straight not even close balls. The come back with a FB to get the out. Why waste 2 or three pitches?
RE: I still don't get the midset  
adamg : 8/16/2017 9:41 pm : link
In comment 13562733 section125 said:
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when pitching. Get up 0-2 with FBs then throw 3 straight not even close balls. The come back with a FB to get the out. Why waste 2 or three pitches?


I understand doing it. Sometimes it just seems excessive or inelegant.

But, you have to mix it up sometimes or else you just get shelled.
Collins chirping  
section125 : 8/16/2017 9:41 pm : link
about strike 3. 2-2 was about 2 inches outside and the next was definitely well inside of that.
Because batters chase pitches  
UConn4523 : 8/16/2017 9:42 pm : link
and always will. Why would you throw an easy strike 0-2?
Frazier to the bench  
adamg : 8/16/2017 9:43 pm : link
Bird/Cooper platoon please!

Headley is finally a good starting 3B again
RE: RE: I still don't get the midset  
section125 : 8/16/2017 9:44 pm : link
In comment 13562737 adamg said:
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when pitching. Get up 0-2 with FBs then throw 3 straight not even close balls. The come back with a FB to get the out. Why waste 2 or three pitches?



I understand doing it. Sometimes it just seems excessive or inelegant.

But, you have to mix it up sometimes or else you just get shelled.


Meh, not every time and why waste three? Yeah you try to get them to swing at a ball off the plate. But at least get it to sniff the plate.
RE: RE: RE: I still don't get the midset  
adamg : 8/16/2017 9:45 pm : link
In comment 13562741 section125 said:
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when pitching. Get up 0-2 with FBs then throw 3 straight not even close balls. The come back with a FB to get the out. Why waste 2 or three pitches?



I understand doing it. Sometimes it just seems excessive or inelegant.

But, you have to mix it up sometimes or else you just get shelled.



Meh, not every time and why waste three? Yeah you try to get them to swing at a ball off the plate. But at least get it to sniff the plate.


Pitching is virtually never as black and white as you're making it sound.
Warren is on fire and he's been on fire for a LONG time  
adamg : 8/16/2017 9:46 pm : link
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Adam Warren Since May 27:
26.2 IP
0.68 ERA
25 K
5 BB
RE: Because batters chase pitches  
section125 : 8/16/2017 9:48 pm : link
In comment 13562739 UConn4523 said:
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and always will. Why would you throw an easy strike 0-2?


Why not? Because maybe you'd like to get thru 6? It is a waste to throw 3 not even close balls. They don't need to be in the other batters box if attempting to fool or entice a swing. The good sliders start on the plate and dive away.
Hindsight is usually worthless  
UConn4523 : 8/16/2017 9:52 pm : link
you have a higher probability getting an out throwing out of the zone 0-2 than throwing a strike. The goal is to get the out, not conserve pitches.
And that's not even factoring in command  
UConn4523 : 8/16/2017 9:54 pm : link
just because a guy throws far out of the zone doesn't mean he intended to
RE: RE: RE: RE: I still don't get the midset  
section125 : 8/16/2017 9:55 pm : link
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when pitching. Get up 0-2 with FBs then throw 3 straight not even close balls. The come back with a FB to get the out. Why waste 2 or three pitches?



I understand doing it. Sometimes it just seems excessive or inelegant.

But, you have to mix it up sometimes or else you just get shelled.



Meh, not every time and why waste three? Yeah you try to get them to swing at a ball off the plate. But at least get it to sniff the plate.



Pitching is virtually never as black and white as you're making it sound.


Not trying to be black and white. Talking about being efficient. The Braves always taught their pitchers to throw strikes. Up/down, in/out. I think this waste pitch thing started late 70s.
I'm not against off the plate, just a foot off the plate. And yes they just throw a bad pitch, or it doesn't break.
RE: RE: Because batters chase pitches  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/16/2017 9:55 pm : link
In comment 13562745 section125 said:
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and always will. Why would you throw an easy strike 0-2?



Why not? Because maybe you'd like to get thru 6? It is a waste to throw 3 not even close balls. They don't need to be in the other batters box if attempting to fool or entice a swing. The good sliders start on the plate and dive away.


If pitchers could always throw it exactly as they wanted precisely where they want it, there would be 200 cy young winners a year.
RE: Hindsight is usually worthless  
section125 : 8/16/2017 9:58 pm : link
In comment 13562749 UConn4523 said:
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you have a higher probability getting an out throwing out of the zone 0-2 than throwing a strike. The goal is to get the out, not conserve pitches.


0-2 ok. Not 1-2 and again at 2-2. And yes the idea is to conserve by getting the out without going 3-2 after being up 0-2.
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arcarsenal : 8/16/2017 9:58 pm : link
LOL. That's a strike?

I mean....
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arcarsenal : 8/16/2017 9:59 pm : link
Honestly one of the worst strike calls I've seen all year. That was like half a foot off the plate inside. Not even close to the corner. And I barely ever bitch about strike calls.
That's not a strike  
B in ALB : 8/16/2017 9:59 pm : link
Collins needs to go nuts and get kicked out. What's he waiting for?
RE: RE: Hindsight is usually worthless  
UConn4523 : 8/16/2017 9:59 pm : link
In comment 13562755 section125 said:
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you have a higher probability getting an out throwing out of the zone 0-2 than throwing a strike. The goal is to get the out, not conserve pitches.



0-2 ok. Not 1-2 and again at 2-2. And yes the idea is to conserve by getting the out without going 3-2 after being up 0-2.


You are making it seem like pitchers choose to work a full count. I don't know what to tell you.
This ump is terrible  
NYerInMA : 8/16/2017 10:00 pm : link
and I say that as a Yankee fan. Very inconsistent with the inside corner. Robots please!
There's the give  
section125 : 8/16/2017 10:01 pm : link
back to Cespedes.
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section125 : 8/16/2017 10:02 pm : link
In comment 13562757 arcarsenal said:
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Honestly one of the worst strike calls I've seen all year. That was like half a foot off the plate inside. Not even close to the corner. And I barely ever bitch about strike calls.


well a solid two inches anyway...but still a ball.
NICE  
adamg : 8/16/2017 10:03 pm : link
Huge strike out
Yuge.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/16/2017 10:04 pm : link
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Fantastic job by Warren  
dpinzow : 8/16/2017 10:04 pm : link
the bullpen's unsung hero
Adam Warren baby!  
adamg : 8/16/2017 10:04 pm : link
Two YUGE innings
I love AW.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/16/2017 10:05 pm : link
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Update  
adamg : 8/16/2017 10:06 pm : link
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Katie Sharp Retweeted Katie Sharp
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Adam Warren Since May 27:
27.2 IP
0.65 ERA
27 K
5 BBKatie Sharp added,
Kati
Missed another  
section125 : 8/16/2017 10:11 pm : link
meatball.
eff me Sanchez  
section125 : 8/16/2017 10:20 pm : link
and don't even try to chase it down.
RE: eff me Sanchez  
adamg : 8/16/2017 10:20 pm : link
In comment 13562782 section125 said:
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and don't even try to chase it down.


In what universe was he going to get that guy?
Please don't let Rene Rivera tie the game  
Jints in Carolina : 8/16/2017 10:22 pm : link
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DRob closes it out  
dpinzow : 8/16/2017 10:26 pm : link
3 straight with Severino pitching tomorrow. Red Sox making the Cardinals choke right now in Boston, unfortunately
Well done Robbie.  
section125 : 8/16/2017 10:26 pm : link
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Cards still Holding on...fingers crossed.
and of course the cardinals are going to choke again  
Jints in Carolina : 8/16/2017 10:26 pm : link
in Boston
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