NFT: Mock Knicks trade for fun

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You would have to add Capela with Frank +. Then you build around KP & Kyrie. Keep the future firsts.

In comment 13562708 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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Cause we are taking Biyombi

At no point ever will kyrie be a knick for anything but k p. And the knicks would be idiots to do that

that gives unprotected picks. It seems like nearly all trades picks have some type of protection. Am I off on this and unprotected picks are more common?

In comment 13562751 PhiPsi125 said:

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that gives unprotected picks. It seems like nearly all trades picks have some type of protection. Am I off on this and unprotected picks are more common?

They're not common. Brooklyn traded a 2018 unprotected to boston. Sacto traded an unprotected 2019 to Philly.

is not enough to offset Anderson's negative value. And Frank and two unprotected #1s is too much for Kyrie. I doubt anyone else is offering that much at this point.

that was so much fun. Not sure I can top that this week. Maybe if I go watch my grass grow.

Rockets aren't trading Capela for Melo. I am a huge Melo fan but that makes the rockets worse. Capela is very important for what they do.

In comment 13562748 hitdog42 said:

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At no point ever will kyrie be a knick for anything but k p. And the knicks would be idiots to do that

Im not sure where you get the authority to speak so authoritatively. In particular, I could see Kyrie traded here after the season for less than KP.

In comment 13562913 TyreeHelmet said:

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Rockets aren't trading Capela for Melo. I am a huge Melo fan but that makes the rockets worse. Capela is very important for what they do.

eh, wouldn't surprise me to see Morey sell high on him before they have to pay him.

to help HOU win this season than Melo would. Melo is a better player, but HOU needs defense and rebounding and center minutes. And Capela is a very good PnR big, which HOU wants to run. Anderson's contract sucks, but HE doesnt suck. He's a useful stretch 4.

w/ Deej that it can be annoying when people speak with such conviction or authority on a topic where us as fans are just speculating.

I also agree that it isn't likely that a deal structured on Capela/Anderson for Melo will fly w HOU.

But I do think a deal may be modified to include Hernangomez.

If the NYK could get Ariza/Gordon for salary purposes + Capela + Troy Williams in exchange for Melo/WH, the Knicks would be better off than any deal I've seen proposed thus far. To have a youthful foundation of KP, CC, TW, DD, THJ, FN and even RB and have trade chips of Ariza + Gordon or Lee, that is the way to properly start the post Melo era. I understand Capela will need to be paid next summer, but so be it.

I love WH but I do wonder if he and KP will be able to coexist especially defensively. Getting a defensive stud like Capela solves a lot of defensive concerns.

has less value to the Rockets than the Knicks. He's a lotto ticket/spec buy. Capela is a NOW player. Cost of the 2 players has no relevance for the Rockets, they are trying to win THIS year. Hernangomez is a below average defender. I don't think the Rockets would even consider this and I'm not even sure the Knicks would be over the moon excited knowing Capela's future deal will be massive. I say that as maybe the first person on here who advocated dealing for Capela way back when.

In comment 13562917 Deej said:

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In comment 13562748 hitdog42 said: Quote: At no point ever will kyrie be a knick for anything but k p. And the knicks would be idiots to do that Im not sure where you get the authority to speak so authoritatively. In particular, I could see Kyrie traded here after the season for less than KP.

I believe hitdog has a friend in the Cavs front office (I believe that is what he said, I might be wrong).

has major value to HOU. His elite hands (for catching in PNR situations), ability to finish with the off hand, pass well and rebound at a high level make him a very good fit.

In comment 13562965 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 13562917 Deej said: Quote: In comment 13562748 hitdog42 said: Quote: At no point ever will kyrie be a knick for anything but k p. And the knicks would be idiots to do that Im not sure where you get the authority to speak so authoritatively. In particular, I could see Kyrie traded here after the season for less than KP. I believe hitdog has a friend in the Cavs front office (I believe that is what he said, I might be wrong).

Ok and lets see what happens next summer if Lebron leaves and Kyrie makes it clear, Paul George style, that he's a goner. What if Willy is a 16 and 11 center with defense rounding into form? What if Frank looks surprisingly good early on? What if the Knicks have a top 5 pick to dangle?

The notion that "At no point ever will kyrie be a knick for anything but k p." as hitdog says is just dumb.

In comment 13562970 Pep22 said:

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has major value to HOU. His elite hands (for catching in PNR situations), ability to finish with the off hand, pass well and rebound at a high level make him a very good fit.

I agree with Dan. Capela and Willy have more value to their current teams than they would to the opposite teams if traded for eachother.

WH is a better front court partner to KP than CC?

Its the truth- just like around the deadline with melo and the cavs last year it was the truth.
Apologies for having facts instead of dumb trade ideas and incorrect opinions

In comment 13562986 hitdog42 said:

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Its the truth- just like around the deadline with melo and the cavs last year it was the truth. Apologies for having facts instead of dumb trade ideas and incorrect opinions

I worked very hard on my dumb trade ideas, thank you very much!

had all kinds of weird stuff in it. He puts Jamal Murray in the same grouping as KP, Josh Jackson, and Tatum. He says that if LeBron were willing to commit to the Cavs long-term, then the Spurs would be in the mix for Irving - presumably with something like LMA, Parker, and Danny Green. That's an awful return IMO. Cavs are rightfully asking for the moon right now, but market conditions may dictate otherwise.

I can't wait to see Kyrie suiting up to play next to Lebron come October...

Why would he? Since NYK were one of his target teams, I think the Knicks would be confident they could sign him long term when his deal was up. He is not giving up potential max money by extending now.

In comment 13563043 Section331 said:

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Why would he? Since NYK were one of his target teams, I think the Knicks would be confident they could sign him long term when his deal was up. He is not giving up potential max money by extending now.

I believe the rules on extensions have changed. You can still get mega bucks if you re-up early. Guys like Westbrook, Harden, and Wall have done it. But I think you need to make all-nba or some nonsense like that to get the highest amounts.

In comment 13562986 hitdog42 said:

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Its the truth- just like around the deadline with melo and the cavs last year it was the truth. Apologies for having facts instead of dumb trade ideas and incorrect opinions

Your truth is actually a prediction of the future based on imperfect information, including Kyrie's demands, what the Knicks have to offer, and timing.

You're telling me that if Kyrie demands out next summer, Lebron walks, and the Knicks have the #1 or #2 overall pick, that Cleveland doesnt listen to an offer based around the pick, possibly plus Frank or Willy?

That's not the "truth". That's just a prediction. Not even the Cavs' GM knows what he's going to have to consider on Kyrie next summer, or in a year and a half.

To take statements then create a new context to them- so that you can argue.
Fans threw around love/Melo ideas for weeks- facts were zero chance.
Fans have thrown around kyrie trades for weeks not including kp. Chances are zero-
If you want to throw around future hypotheticals unrelated to anything anyone has discussed in an effort to try to make my comments seem offbase--- then pls enjoy wasting your time