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NFT: It's time the Mets move on from Sandy Alderson

DanMetroMan : 8/17/2017 10:03 am
-First let me say that this really isn't about "trashing" Sandy and the job he has done

-I'm vocal about my dislike of ownership. I fully realize that a large percentage of the Mets "problems" is due to budgetary issues. Reading between the lines of Sandy's comments yesterday you should expect a lower payroll in 2018. That being said improvement doesn't have to come with spending.


I am of the belief that we need a regime change. Sandy's "patience" has been a virtue in many ways.... going forward the Mets need to be bold, they need to be open-minded, they need to be proactive and they need to willing to make moves on the fly. I do not personally feel Sandy and this FO is best equipped to partake in such a vast change in philosophy. The Mets likely need a younger, more energized person who will be willing to "tinker" more. Trades like the Hicks deal for the Yankees, Beckham for Baltimore, Dyson to Seattle. Moves like these "minor" deals that sometimes work out big.
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Ugh.  
ZGiants98 : 8/17/2017 5:27 pm : link
Nimmo always struck me as a rythm guy too. Historically, would start cold early in the season and would get red hot for periods in the summer if he was healthy. Toiling on the bench can't be great for his development (even though he's done "ok" as a pinch hitter). Very frustrating.
RE: RE: Why is Nimmo getting zero play?  
ZGiants98 : 8/17/2017 5:28 pm : link
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Not one game the whole series? Ugh.



Maybe they think they are about to trade Granderson? Other than that I have no idea.


Has to be the reason but Nimmo can't even get in one day out of 4? I think most teams know what they are going to get in Granderson. Hell, give Cespedes a day off. Do we need him playing every day for something?
Folks its the Wilpons  
Manning10 : 8/17/2017 6:12 pm : link
They are toxic owners. Alderson follows their orders, every potential deal he gets approval or not to do it.
Junior Wilpon could not run a Dairy Queen let alone an MLB franchise.
Dunn  
DanMetroMan : 8/17/2017 6:40 pm : link
To the DL wonderful
RE: Dunn  
spike : 8/17/2017 10:50 pm : link
In comment 13563883 DanMetroMan said:
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To the DL wonderful


TJ for everyone. mets got a group discount
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spike : 8/17/2017 10:51 pm : link
In comment 13563814 DanMetroMan said:
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Cecchini should be playing close to every day. Is he a starting 2b? Is he capable as a utility player? Is he garbage? Lets find out.


TC has to play "his guys"
Whats wrong with Matz?  
spike : 8/17/2017 10:52 pm : link
I expect a DL trip soon
it's actually time to move on from terry collins...  
Torrag : 8/18/2017 2:11 am : link
...he was a bad hire from day one and he's only gotten worse.
The  
DanMetroMan : 8/18/2017 7:33 am : link
Mets have confirmed Reynolds will be "the" 3b right now. All I can guess is they aren't particularly high on Cecchini and/or Cabrera was only willing to play 3b when he thought he might be traded and they don't think Cecchini can handle 3b in a passable way.
RE: it's actually time to move on from terry collins...  
weeg in the bronx : 8/18/2017 7:38 am : link
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...he was a bad hire from day one and he's only gotten worse.


I viewed him as a placeholder but agree he has hung on too long. He had guys who played well and hard for him, but he was not a good gameday manager. Of course sandy let those clubhouse guys walk.
I also blame sandy for letting Reyes walk at his peak for value for nothing. I had not problem with not resigning him but never understood why we didn't try to trade him when we knew we weren't resigning him.
All that said, do you have any confidence in Alderson's to hire a suitable replacement for Collins?
RE: RE: it's actually time to move on from terry collins...  
DanMetroMan : 8/18/2017 7:39 am : link
In comment 13564247 weeg in the bronx said:
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...he was a bad hire from day one and he's only gotten worse.



I viewed him as a placeholder but agree he has hung on too long. He had guys who played well and hard for him, but he was not a good gameday manager. Of course sandy let those clubhouse guys walk.
I also blame sandy for letting Reyes walk at his peak for value for nothing. I had not problem with not resigning him but never understood why we didn't try to trade him when we knew we weren't resigning him.
All that said, do you have any confidence in Alderson's to hire a suitable replacement for Collins?



The replacement will likely be someone like Hale/Melvin. 100% someone with some level of upper level experience and almost certainly not a "young" guy.
what's that I smell??????  
feelflows : 8/18/2017 7:41 am : link
that top five pick is smelling good right about now.
RE: what's that I smell??????  
DanMetroMan : 8/18/2017 7:44 am : link
In comment 13564250 feelflows said:
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that top five pick is smelling good right about now.


As of right now they would be picking 7th. Oakland is sitting in the 5 spot at 53-68, the Mets are 53-66, Tigers 53-67, The Reds have 5 more losses so realistically the Mets will be picking 5-9.
One  
DanMetroMan : 8/18/2017 7:45 am : link
thing people never seem to mention, it's not just about picking higher... picking higher ALSO gives you a bigger draft pool to spend.
Bautista  
DanMetroMan : 8/18/2017 8:46 am : link
Has pitched pretty well so far in A+ (8.1 innings) gotta believe Callahan, Bautista, Uceta and Bashlor will need to be added to the 40 man or be picked
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Metnut : 8/18/2017 9:01 am : link
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Mets have confirmed Reynolds will be "the" 3b right now. All I can guess is they aren't particularly high on Cecchini and/or Cabrera was only willing to play 3b when he thought he might be traded and they don't think Cecchini can handle 3b in a passable way.


So they aren't going to give Cecchini a look (a guy they fucking picked in the first round) so appease Cabrera? Instead, they are going to play a guy with a 74 career wRC at 3B. Maybe this team really does need a complete overhaul in the front office and on field management.
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DanMetroMan : 8/18/2017 9:05 am : link
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Mets have confirmed Reynolds will be "the" 3b right now. All I can guess is they aren't particularly high on Cecchini and/or Cabrera was only willing to play 3b when he thought he might be traded and they don't think Cecchini can handle 3b in a passable way.



So they aren't going to give Cecchini a look (a guy they fucking picked in the first round) so appease Cabrera? Instead, they are going to play a guy with a 74 career wRC at 3B. Maybe this team really does need a complete overhaul in the front office and on field management.


They haven't said it's because of Cabrera but one can only assume. Cecchini can't play 3b so now he won't be playing? Sure seems like Cabrera refuses to move over there so Reynolds is the only option.
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