especially when TB picked before the Giants in 2012. Stupid Giants. Couldn't re-order the draft to pick Martin. Jerry Reach couldn't trade up and use his crystal ball to know about Wilson's eventual health issue? Idiots.
are aware of this fact: When the 2012 draft started, a NY Giants insider emailed Eric From BBI the Giants favorite pick they thought might be there at pick #32. His name? David Wilson.
I liked what I saw from DW and really thought he'd be a great RB. Sure he needed to work on his blocking and yes, he had 3 career fumbles with 115 carries. Damn that kid was phenomenal with KO returns and just needed a little more time.
Life sucks sometimes.
BTW: DW was a need pick. At the time of the 2012 draft, the Giants had only a crippled Bradshaw signed as a RB.
especially when TB picked before the Giants in 2012. Stupid Giants. Couldn't re-order the draft to pick Martin. Jerry Reach couldn't trade up and use his crystal ball to know about Wilson's eventual health issue? Idiots.
Pretty sure he was saying it's tough seeing a RB from that class succeed and not think about what Wilson could have been for us if he didn't have an unfortunate injury.
Thing something is getting lost in translation here ......
are aware of this fact: When the 2012 draft started, a NY Giants insider emailed Eric From BBI the Giants favorite pick they thought might be there at pick #32. His name? David Wilson.
I remember but have always wondered if in fact they would have taken Martin. The insider could have come back and said "Gosh, no one thought Martin would fall that far".
If I had to guess, I'd say Martin was more TC's kind of back although JR may have liked Wilson better.
Good year. Stop fucking whining like a pussy about it. The kid is always injured. If anything we should have grabbed a lineman of some kind with that pick because the line just fell apart after that draft.
especially when TB picked before the Giants in 2012. Stupid Giants. Couldn't re-order the draft to pick Martin. Jerry Reach couldn't trade up and use his crystal ball to know about Wilson's eventual health issue? Idiots.
Pretty sure he was saying it's tough seeing a RB from that class succeed and not think about what Wilson could have been for us if he didn't have an unfortunate injury.
Thing something is getting lost in translation here ......
Jesse. Yes, I get it. But the comparison is nonsense. One guy got hurt, the other guy is pretty good.
And if you think there's not an overtone of what-if, I'm not sure what to tell you. There were tons of people on BBI bitching about trading up to take Martin.
And I'll submit that Wilson was by far the more explosive back with way more potential. His medical ruined it. Can't use hindsight on that.
was a nightmare and the beginning of our post-46 downward spiral. In hindsight, we should have begun re-stocking the OL. And some good ones were available - next 2 off the board were Mitchell Schwartz and Cordy Glenn.
Word is he was in the same row as Wilson. He should have been the pick. The guy has been a very productive player in this league and would have strengthened the OL immediately and going forward.
Wilson struggled in many facets of being a lead RB
Problem with Wilson, he was damaged goods (history of neck injury in college); the scouts failed to check him out well enough.- and there you have it a blown 1st round pick !
Word is he was in the same row as Wilson. He should have been the pick. The guy has been a very productive player in this league and would have strengthened the OL immediately and going forward.
For sure. First round RBs should be game changed no doubt about it guys. Don't think Wilson fit that bill. It when Glenn, Bobby Wagner and Janoris Alshon and Mitchell Schwartz were all there.
I liked what I saw from DW and really thought he'd be a great RB. Sure he needed to work on his blocking and yes, he had 3 career fumbles with 115 carries. Damn that kid was phenomenal with KO returns and just needed a little more time.
Life sucks sometimes.
BTW: DW was a need pick. At the time of the 2012 draft, the Giants had only a crippled Bradshaw signed as a RB.
Pretty sure he was saying it's tough seeing a RB from that class succeed and not think about what Wilson could have been for us if he didn't have an unfortunate injury.
Thing something is getting lost in translation here ......
1) It requires thinking.
2) It includes a counterfactual. Counterfactuals are evil. Fake memories.
I remember but have always wondered if in fact they would have taken Martin. The insider could have come back and said "Gosh, no one thought Martin would fall that far".
If I had to guess, I'd say Martin was more TC's kind of back although JR may have liked Wilson better.
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especially when TB picked before the Giants in 2012. Stupid Giants. Couldn't re-order the draft to pick Martin. Jerry Reach couldn't trade up and use his crystal ball to know about Wilson's eventual health issue? Idiots.
Pretty sure he was saying it's tough seeing a RB from that class succeed and not think about what Wilson could have been for us if he didn't have an unfortunate injury.
Thing something is getting lost in translation here ......
Jesse. Yes, I get it. But the comparison is nonsense. One guy got hurt, the other guy is pretty good.
And if you think there's not an overtone of what-if, I'm not sure what to tell you. There were tons of people on BBI bitching about trading up to take Martin.
And I'll submit that Wilson was by far the more explosive back with way more potential. His medical ruined it. Can't use hindsight on that.
Jesse. Yes, I get it. But the comparison is nonsense. One guy got hurt, the other guy is pretty good.
The OP was NOT making a comparison. He simply said that seeing Martin (because they were in the same draft class) made him think about David Wilson.
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Jesse. Yes, I get it. But the comparison is nonsense. One guy got hurt, the other guy is pretty good.
The OP was NOT making a comparison. He simply said that seeing Martin (because they were in the same draft class) made him think about David Wilson.
Oh ok. Thanks for clearing that up. I had no idea.
Mike Nolan said last season on Sirius that Bortles is terrible and will never be more than average at best.
Organizational trainwreck.
hahaha. Holy shit.
LOL. He's bad. He fooled a lot of people 2 seasons ago when he racked up a ton of garbage yardage late in games. He's the Brandon Myers of QB's.
Allen Robinson hates him.
Solid KR. Supporting RB role yes, lead guy...ehh?
He was going to be the next LeSean McCoy. Remember ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl4djQM56Pc
Problem with Wilson, he was damaged goods (history of neck injury in college); the scouts failed to check him out well enough.- and there you have it a blown 1st round pick !
For sure. First round RBs should be game changed no doubt about it guys. Don't think Wilson fit that bill. It when Glenn, Bobby Wagner and Janoris Alshon and Mitchell Schwartz were all there.
To follow up Gabbert with Bortles... Give me a fucking break with this joke of a franchise.
He also has the tools to succeed. He just has the yips and needs to get through it. He's the Chuck Knoblauch/Mackey Sasser of the NFL right now.
isnt that the same draft year as OBJ?? ummm