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Gman11 : 8/18/2017 10:04 am
Saw the story in the Post about him partying the week of the fight. I'm not a big fight fan, but I would ordinarily bet my house that he destroys McGregor.

However, Ali took Spinks lightly. Tyson took Douglas lightly. Stuff can happen.
Party on - ( New Window )
will the 8 oz gloves mean anything?  
UConn4523 : 8/18/2017 10:16 am : link
presumably it helps McGregor since I expect Mayweather to jab and move, but who knows.
Different animal with heavy weight fighters IMO  
est1986 : 8/18/2017 10:16 am : link
Floyd is the best punch evader ever.. He is probably the most accurate with his hands ever as well.. He cannot lose in the sport of boxing, even at this age.. If it was an MMA fight I would still love his odds.. Connor is going to be picked apart for 12 rounds.. Floyd probably won't drop him but I expect him to damage Connor's face pretty good.
RE: will the 8 oz gloves mean anything?  
est1986 : 8/18/2017 10:18 am : link
In comment 13564386 UConn4523 said:
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presumably it helps McGregor since I expect Mayweather to jab and move, but who knows.


IMO 8 ounce gloves hurt Connor.. he wasn't hitting Floyd to begin with, that wont change with smaller gloves, if anything it just makes Floyd's punches more impactful.. Connor wont hit Floyd often, if at all.
The MMA thing is a stunt  
trueblueinpw : 8/18/2017 10:21 am : link
I don't think Mayweather's conduct is really a comment on his overall ability or desire to be a great boxer (he's obviously a great boxer). This "fight" is a stunt and an enormous payday.
trueblue  
Gman11 : 8/18/2017 10:31 am : link
I definitely agree with that, but if I was in Mayweather's corner I might tell him to take it seriously and knock out this clown early.
Lay the 6-1 and thank me.  
Carl in CT : 8/18/2017 10:32 am : link
Easiest bet I've seen in years. It will be over by round 3. Boxing wants this to happen to try and win fans back. Refs will not allow any rough housing in the rink. Easy win for May!
Mayweather has fought plenty of fights with 8 oz.  
GiantFilthy : 8/18/2017 10:38 am : link
It's no big advantage for Conor.
RE: RE: will the 8 oz gloves mean anything?  
UConn4523 : 8/18/2017 10:39 am : link
In comment 13564391 est1986 said:
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In comment 13564386 UConn4523 said:


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presumably it helps McGregor since I expect Mayweather to jab and move, but who knows.



IMO 8 ounce gloves hurt Connor.. he wasn't hitting Floyd to begin with, that wont change with smaller gloves, if anything it just makes Floyd's punches more impactful.. Connor wont hit Floyd often, if at all.


While I agree, its been assumed that the only way Connor has a prayer is if he lands a big punch. This helps in that regard as long as he can eat jabs that are going to hurt a bit more.
Not a huge fan of Mayweather  
gmen9892 : 8/18/2017 10:40 am : link
As a boxing fan. I like the "fighters" more. Floyd has a boring style of boxing. I acknowledge that he is one of the quickest and best defensive boxers of all-time and is very technically sound. I just hate watching his fights more than any other big time boxer that I can remember. That along with his attitude has never made me a fan of his.

Having said that, I am rooting for him against McGregor. Not because I like him better, I most definitely like Conner better. If Mayweather loses on August 26th, that will put a HUGE dent into the sport of boxing (not as thought it didnt already have big dents to begin with). As a much bigger fan of Boxing then MMA, I would hate to see a dying sport have more dirt shoveled on to it with its best fighter losing to MMA's with boxing rules.
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GiantFilthy : 8/18/2017 10:40 am : link
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Different animal with heavy weight fighters IMO
est1986 : 10:16 am : link : reply
Floyd is the best punch evader ever.. He is probably the most accurate with his hands ever as well.. He cannot lose in the sport of boxing, even at this age.. If it was an MMA fight I would still love his odds..

Come again?
he's the best defensive fighter  
PaulBlakeTSU : 8/18/2017 10:58 am : link
I've ever seen, but I never feel like he "wins" fights. Perhaps it's a warped view of boxing in wanting to see boxers land shots that impact the other fither.

I find him unwatchable in that regard. I also think he is an absolute scumbag and so I always root for him to get knocked out.
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est1986 : 8/18/2017 11:04 am : link
In comment 13564429 GiantFilthy said:
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Different animal with heavy weight fighters IMO
est1986 : 10:16 am : link : reply
Floyd is the best punch evader ever.. He is probably the most accurate with his hands ever as well.. He cannot lose in the sport of boxing, even at this age.. If it was an MMA fight I would still love his odds..


Come again?


The best way to win hand to hand combat is with your hands.. a single punch in 4-ounce gloves for some of these boxers CAN BE LETHAL.. I would take a heavy weight boxer in a fight over a heavy weight MMA fighter any day, call me crazy all you want.. The superior puncher wins the fight 999 times out of a thousand from my experiences.
Hagler. Leonard. Hearns.  
idiotsavant : 8/18/2017 11:11 am : link
.pshhhhh
It won't last very long, IMO.  
Crispino : 8/18/2017 11:20 am : link
I can't stand Floyd, but he should win easily. My guess is that Connor will come out and try to end it with a fury as fast as possible. It's his only chance. Floyd will weather that and knock out the exhausted McGregor in round 2 or 3.
Can't stand Mayweather  
PaulN : 8/18/2017 11:35 am : link
But bet the house on him, no way he loses this fight. Would have loved to see him fight the real fighters of the past, Duran, Leonard, Hearns, Haglar, any of them would have beat him, he is a great defensive fighter though and would go 12 with anyone, other then Leonard, he was fast enough and mean enough to knock him out.
if Pac man couldn't hit him Mc Gregor couldn't with a 2x4  
gtt350 : 8/18/2017 11:36 am : link
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No way does Floyd lose  
Lawrence_Taylor_56 : 8/18/2017 12:25 pm : link
Even a sport as corrupt as boxing would never want their undefeated golden child to lose. So it will be fought under normal boxing circumferences, with normal reffing, between an amateur and one of the all time greats... The outcome is preordained.

Floyd will likely make this fight last and make it interesting but make no mistake - he could probably end it in 3 rounds if he wanted to.
MMA fans  
bc4life : 8/18/2017 12:26 pm : link
who don't already know, will find out in two weeks the difference between a pure world class boxer and an MMA boxer.

Mayweather - great fighter - great defensive fighter - will make a fool of McGregor.

Only fighter to really give Mayweather a run for his money was Zab Judah, but as usual, he only brought half a fight with him.
est1986  
bc4life : 8/18/2017 12:27 pm : link
Disagree re: MMA fight - everything changes when you leave your feet.
and add  
bc4life : 8/18/2017 12:31 pm : link
jiu jitsu and wrestling as options.
changes the whole nature  
bc4life : 8/18/2017 12:32 pm : link
of clinching, tying another fighter up, even how you extend on punches
Mayweather  
JerseyCityJoe : 8/18/2017 12:34 pm : link
The next time he has an exciting fight will be the first time. Not a knock on him, boxing is all about hitting and not getting hit and Mayweather is a genius at it.
est1986,  
GiantFilthy : 8/18/2017 12:39 pm : link
first kick and immediate take down 10 seconds into the opening round would take away that boxer's punching power right out of the gate. Any boxer would be get the CM Punk treatment in the octagon.
RE: est1986,  
weeg in the bronx : 8/18/2017 1:19 pm : link
In comment 13564662 GiantFilthy said:
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first kick and immediate take down 10 seconds into the opening round would take away that boxer's punching power right out of the gate. Any boxer would be get the CM Punk treatment in the octagon.


I watch a decent amount of MMA and I always felt its easier to learn how to prevent a takedown than it is to defend against a top boxer, especially a puncher. Especially a puncher wearing five ounce gloves at a heavier weight. And in most MMA fights I watch, there is always a fear of the big punch, especially for a wrestler who is afraid to get caught going for a takedown. Then again, I've never seen a top boxer make the switch to MMA so I could be wrong.
RE: est1986,  
est1986 : 8/18/2017 1:22 pm : link
In comment 13564662 GiantFilthy said:
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first kick and immediate take down 10 seconds into the opening round would take away that boxer's punching power right out of the gate. Any boxer would be get the CM Punk treatment in the octagon.


Easier said than done.. That's like me saying one punch from a boxer in the ring and its "night, night" for any UFC fighter.
To me, the biggest thing with the 8oz gloves  
BlackLight : 8/18/2017 1:43 pm : link
is that it makes Mayweather breaking his hands (which he's prone to do anyway) that much more likely.
RE: RE: est1986,  
Big Rick in FL : 8/18/2017 1:49 pm : link
In comment 13564729 est1986 said:
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In comment 13564662 GiantFilthy said:


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first kick and immediate take down 10 seconds into the opening round would take away that boxer's punching power right out of the gate. Any boxer would be get the CM Punk treatment in the octagon.



Easier said than done.. That's like me saying one punch from a boxer in the ring and its "night, night" for any UFC fighter.


No it's not like that at all. Go ask James Toney. It's simple Floyd destroys Conor in boxing. Conor destroys Floyd in MMA.
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GiantFilthy : 8/18/2017 2:18 pm : link
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weeg in the bronx : 1:19 pm : link : reply
I watch a decent amount of MMA and I always felt its easier to learn how to prevent a takedown than it is to defend against a top boxer, especially a puncher. Especially a puncher wearing five ounce gloves at a heavier weight. And in most MMA fights I watch, there is always a fear of the big punch, especially for a wrestler who is afraid to get caught going for a takedown. Then again, I've never seen a top boxer make the switch to MMA so I could be wrong.

I disagree. MMA is littered with guys who can take a good punch and don't mind doing so. However you can't throw a stick without hitting one who is afraid to let their hands go because they are worried about the takedown when the threat is there.
Part of me wonders if Mcgregor stands to make more long term  
LatHarv83 : 8/18/2017 3:17 pm : link
By just throwing rules out the window and going with a full on MMA style beat down of Floyd. He might forfeit the purse he stands to make that night, but he'd get full on legend status and be a god like figure to the legions of people who'd love to see mayweather catch a massive beatdown. If all goes as currently planned and he just gets his ass kicked in a conventional boxing match I'm not sure where he goes after that. I think he stands to gain more by beating floyds ass even if he has to go outside of boxing rules to do it
Lat,  
GiantFilthy : 8/18/2017 3:34 pm : link
no way.
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If all goes as currently planned and he just gets his ass kicked in a conventional boxing match I'm not sure where he goes after that.

The point for Conor here is that after this fight he doesn't have to go anywhere. He can retire if he wants and many think he will.
Plus the 90% of the purse he would lose  
GiantFilthy : 8/18/2017 3:36 pm : link
would bring his pay down to an amount lower than what he makes currently fighting in the UFC. Not worth it at all.
If it was an MMA fight Mayweather wouldn't last a round  
SimpleMan : 8/18/2017 7:04 pm : link
He would get rushed, kicked, and taken to the ground, where he wouldn't be able to avoid getting hit. He would be dealing with elbows and chokes along with punches. It would be a bloodbath.
What's the actuall rules for this fight  
DelZotto : 8/18/2017 7:13 pm : link
It seems every thing favors Mayweather, he stated the other day Macgregor can not kick him or it's automatic disqualification, so does that mean MAA rules are forbidden.
RE: What's the actuall rules for this fight  
djm : 8/18/2017 8:23 pm : link
In comment 13565074 DelZotto said:
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It seems every thing favors Mayweather, he stated the other day Macgregor can not kick him or it's automatic disqualification, so does that mean MAA rules are forbidden.


It's a boxing match. 100% Boxing rules.
RE: Lay the 6-1 and thank me.  
Matt G : 8/18/2017 8:23 pm : link
In comment 13564419 Carl in CT said:
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Easiest bet I've seen in years. It will be over by round 3. Boxing wants this to happen to try and win fans back. Refs will not allow any rough housing in the rink. Easy win for May!


Over in RD3 for Mayweather? May I please take the other side of that one?
Mayweather  
XBRONX : 8/18/2017 8:27 pm : link
is the greatest runner in boxing history.
RE: MMA fans  
LauderdaleMatty : 8/18/2017 10:52 pm : link
In comment 13564624 bc4life said:
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who don't already know, will find out in two weeks the difference between a pure world class boxer and an MMA boxer.

Mayweather - great fighter - great defensive fighter - will make a fool of McGregor.

Only fighter to really give Mayweather a run for his money was Zab Judah, but as usual, he only brought half a fight with him.


There isn't a single real MMA fan who thinks Connor has a real shot. He's a clown. Smart MFer. Going to make millions. But he's got nothing but a punchers shot. VS a defensive genius like Floyd? Yeah. I'm a Jiu Jitsu guy. Done more than enough MMA to know he's got almost no shot.

And after this he will avoid Khabib and Ferfueson for Diaz. He's barely. Too 5 guy at 155 in MMA. DIaz isn't a top 5 guy at 155. One loss and one Mediocre showing where he faded.

McGreggor is smart. And he will continue to make millions. But he's not anyone the top tier guys in his weight class anyone fears.
I cant see Mayweather losing  
Archer : 8/18/2017 11:12 pm : link
I have boxed and I have competed in MMA
They are completely different
Guys who are good boxers are not necessarily good in MMA and visa versa
Mayweather is a brilliant boxer
McGregor is an average boxer

I just hope that it is a competitive fight

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